Right wing randos from the middle of nowhere, I get why they get pulled down the rabbit hole.
Elon Musk, is a hyper online nerd and he is constantly surrounded by yes men. I get why he got pulled down the rabbit hole.
Donald Trump is a Fox News grandpa who surrounds himself with the hard right because they support him unconditionally. I get why he got pulled down the rabbit hole.
But JD Vance is arguably the furthest down the rabbit hole of all of them, and I don’t get why.
Theoretically he’s the senator for a whole state who voted for Obama twice. His day job is in the Democrat-controlled Senate, if he wants to get anything done he needs to work with Democrats. How is he such a true believer in this stuff?!?
Vance used to be more of a center left guy until he got into politics to grift his way to VP. Read anything about him and you can easily see who he is pandering to.
I wouldn’t even go so far as to say it’s that they “like” Harris.
She seems good. And Walz was a truly inspired pick for running mate in the current political climate of the United States. But I think a LOT of this excitement comes from just not being old as fuck.
The size and immediacy of the reaction to her candidacy tells me that there’s a sense of almost cathartic relief that there’s actually someone in the game that can actually still function AS the president. I’m sure Harris and her personality have something to do with it as well; but at least some of the “wave” as they call it, would have existed for literally anyone on the ticket who could dress themselves compared to the two old geezers they had to choose from before.
This is just my take as a Canadian watching, suddenly interested, from the North.
Also, the difference between the tone of the speechea between Harris and Trump are like day and night. Where Trump continues to throw dirt and spew so much negativity, Harris sounds like someone who steps beyond the dirt throwing and really comes with a vision and ideas how to govern the country.
Well, my 2cts from someone on the other end of the Atlantic 😀
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Among the plans from the Harris campaign is a federal ban on price-gouging in the industries. Most states currently have such bans in place.
O…kay.
Harris will single out meat prices, and in particular the meat-processing industry. Her first 100 days will also see support for small businesses, a “crack down on unfair mergers and acquisitions” among food corporations.
Bird flu and swine flu are two of the biggest pressure points on agricultural supply. Heat and drought are also doing horrible things to cattle stock. Will her support for small businesses address this? Guess we’ll have to tune in next week to find out.
Harris no longer supports measures from her short-lived 2020 presidential bid such as a fracking ban or Medicare for All, advisers told Reuters.
sigh
Her campaign said it wanted to avoid dividing voters and attracting attacks from business groups over granular details
mega-sigh
She will push plans to cut costs of rental housing and home ownership, including funding more affordable housing and building climate resistant communities.
Sounds nice. Wonder what the details will look like.
“She does have a focus on housing because we know and she knows very, very clearly that housing is a crisis in this country,” said Marcia Fudge, a Harris adviser and the former housing and urban development secretary under Biden.
I’m curious to know what Harris stands for and this article doesn’t seem to offer much.
This country really needs Project 2025, doesn’t it?
Project 2025 seems bad and I wouldn’t suggest voting for a guy like Vance or Trump, given his support of it. But Harris’s response appears to be to just not talk about policy and campaign without upsetting anybody.
They’re decided by an electoral college selected by the party. We’ve seen state governments assert the right of the state legislature to usurp the popular vote by citing Rehnquist’s decision in Bush v Gore. And while you’d like to think this remains a decision in popular hands, Idk how current composition of the SCOTUS will respond if presented with an opportunity to overturn another general election victory by the Democrats.
Who wins when not enough people per state vote for Harris?
In theory, its the Big Scary Cheeto (or, assuming another Demolition Ranch subscriber gets within 400 feet of the former Prez, JD “Couchfucker” Vance).
But if all you care about is Not-Trump, why are you in a thread talking about Harris’s policy? Why take offense at anyone asking? You know who you’re voting for, regardless of what she says, so why are you in here pretending that you care?
I am not pretending that I care that people don’t vote for Harris.
Then you think you’d care about the nine people who will ultimately decide this election. You’d think that would lead to more calls of “Pack the Court”, “Fight illegal felony disenfranchisement laws”, and “Support universal mail-in voting”, rather than “Fuck you for asking what anyone supports”.
Instead, I’m seeing someone who is willing to waltz blindly into another Bush v Gore SCOTUS sponsored upset while screaming “Fascist!” at the Naderites.
Why don’t you care about that?
The difference between caring about this election and caring about democracy is in wanting your team to win this round and wanting general participation in democratic institutions after November.
They don’t seem to matter under Biden, when Abbott is doing them.
Does Harris indicate she’ll crack down on Abbott’s state goons or rein in the DHS officials that have sided with him? Or is she going to continue turning a blind eye?
And possibly because it’ll upset the victims of the private industry. MFA is the only solution to the American healthcare crisis. They’ve already sold off parts of Medicare. We need to kill the private health insurance industry or it will keep trying to get us back here
I’ve read them all.
They complain about policy more, explain the election system, and complain about Netenyahoo jerking us around. None of which suggests to not vote for Harris.
I think you are deliberately refusing to see something that pretty much everyone else here can see just because he isn’t literally saying “don’t vote for Harris.”
But sure, maybe he’s saying not to vote at all. Which is basically the same thing.
Close.
I’m deliberately refusing to infer something that isn’t implied. I’m refusing to try to mind-read someone I don’t know. I’m deliberately accepting their statements at face value, because I don’t know them.
It’s how I would hope people read what I write.
And how I believe we can have more productive interactions online.
Well I do know them. I’ve seen them post here for a long time. I’ve also seen them switch almost immediately from “don’t vote for Biden” to “don’t vote for Harris.”
If what you’ve argued about their statements today, is indicative of your interpretation of their statements then… I hope you’ll understand and forgive my doubts.
As a leftist I was critical of Biden and continued to be critical of Harris, despite hating Trump even moreso.
It’s not suspicious, it’s consistent based on our ideology.
As I’ve said elsewhere I’m an expat not a resident, so I mostly vote here in Canada, and I don’t really like any of my 3 main options right now. I’ll strategically vote to keep the Conservatives out, but that doesn’t mean I like the Liberals and I’m comfortable criticising Trudeau.
As someone who is terminally on Lemmy you should do more to build a better culture of charitable interpretation of what people are saying instead of trying to fucking gestapo-up alleged Trump supporters and silence any criticism of your preferred candidate.
To me it seems like they’re criticising her from the left and that’s valid criticism. I didn’t run a background check on them so maybe they aren’t. Maybe they won’t even vote.
I’m not going to bully them until they leave, though.
This community is extremely toxic. It’s no different than the politics subreddit.
Ok fair you’re not the worst of them but you’re contributing to the toxicity at least somewhat. There’re worse examples actively harassing me and I took some of that out on you.
You gotta realize, America isn’t a new iPhone release with chamfered edges. We’re trying to save America from Fascism. That the campaign is also doing things on top of that is just great. They’ve already probably accomplished much more in the last 4 years than you realized, not even counting the fact that they had to undo the clusterfuck that DonOld the Orange Bloat left behind where departments had no people, no records, nothing.
Example of what you should expect in the future based on the last 4 years (as summarized by ChatGPT):
Created over 12 million jobs, including 6.6 million in the first year—more than any other president in U.S. history.
Passed the American Rescue Plan, providing direct relief to Americans and supporting economic recovery post-pandemic.
Achieved record investments in U.S. manufacturing through the CHIPS and Science Act, fostering innovation and reducing dependence on foreign semiconductors.
Implemented the Inflation Reduction Act, the largest investment in clean energy and climate action in U.S. history.
Healthcare and Social Policies:
Expanded healthcare access and reduced premiums under the Affordable Care Act, saving Americans $800 per year on average.
Passed the PACT Act to address health impacts on veterans exposed to toxins.
Provided historic student debt relief, including forgiveness of up to $20,000 for Pell Grant recipients.
Infrastructure and Environmental Initiatives:
Passed the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, allocating $1.2 trillion to improve roads, bridges, public transit, and broadband across the country.
Committed to ambitious climate goals, aiming for a 50-52% reduction in U.S. greenhouse gas emissions by 2030.
Social Justice and Civil Rights:
Protected marriage equality for LGBTQI+ and interracial couples through bipartisan legislation.
Reauthorized the Violence Against Women Act and implemented measures to reduce police violence, including banning chokeholds and no-knock warrants at the federal level.
Successfully nominated and confirmed Ketanji Brown Jackson, the first Black woman to serve on the U.S. Supreme Court.
Foreign Policy and National Security:
Rallied international support for Ukraine in response to Russia’s invasion, strengthening NATO and facilitating the addition of Finland and Sweden to the alliance.
Led successful counterterrorism operations, eliminating key leaders of ISIS and Al Qaeda without committing large numbers of U.S. ground troops.
Economic and Trade Policies:
Navigated the U.S. economy through high inflation and interest rate challenges, maintaining economic growth with a 2.5% GDP increase in 2023.
Introduced a new approach to globalization, balancing trade with industrial policies to boost U.S. manufacturing and secure jobs.
Departmental and Agency Accomplishments
Department of Transportation (DOT)
Safety Regulations: Implemented several final rules to improve transportation safety, including:
Requiring railroads to provide real-time information to emergency personnel about hazardous material shipments.
Introducing rules to enhance rail safety by mandating adequate training and certification for train dispatchers and signal employees.
Mandating automatic emergency braking systems in passenger cars and light trucks to reduce accidents.
Consumer Protections: Expanded airline passenger rights, requiring airlines to provide automatic cash refunds for canceled or significantly changed flights, and imposed penalties on airlines for consumer protection violations.
Infrastructure Investments: Funded nearly 3,000 low- and zero-emission transit buses and over 5,000 clean school buses as part of efforts to modernize the transportation system.
Federal Communications Commission (FCC)
Broadband Expansion: Expanded broadband access across the U.S., focusing on underserved and rural areas.
Combatting Robocalls: Intensified efforts to crack down on illegal robocalls, implementing stricter rules and encouraging carriers to adopt call authentication technology.
Net Neutrality and Digital Equity: Worked on restoring net neutrality protections and advancing digital equity initiatives.
Federal Trade Commission (FTC)
Consumer Protection: Focused on protecting consumers from deceptive practices, particularly in online marketplaces and digital platforms.
Antitrust Enforcement: Increased antitrust efforts, particularly in the tech industry, to challenge mergers and practices that could harm competition.
Subscription Services: Launched initiatives to make it easier for consumers to unsubscribe from unwanted memberships and recurring payments.
Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)
Combatting PFAS Pollution: Launched a comprehensive PFAS Roadmap to research, restrict, and remediate harmful PFAS chemicals in the environment.
Climate Action: Took significant steps to reduce methane emissions through the Super Emitter Program, which monitors large methane leaks and requires operators to address them.
Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB)
Consumer Relief: Enforcement actions since 2021 resulted in approximately $19 billion in relief for consumers, impacting around 195 million people.
Fair Lending Practices: Referred a record number of fair lending matters to the Department of Justice for enforcement.
National Labor Relations Board (NLRB)
Worker Protections: Actively protected workers’ rights, including reversing Trump-era policies that limited workers’ ability to organize and collectively bargain.
Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) and Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC)
Financial Stability: Strengthened regulations to ensure financial stability and consumer protection, including stricter oversight of financial institutions.
Department of Energy (DOE)
Infrastructure Investments: Key player in modernizing U.S. energy infrastructure, including investments in clean energy technologies and grid modernization.
Carbon Capture and Storage: Advanced carbon capture and storage technologies through initiatives like the Carbon Negative Shot.
Energy Equity: Emphasized ensuring that the benefits of clean energy reach underserved communities.
Department of Education
Student Debt Forgiveness: Implemented historic student debt relief, including cancellation of up to $20,000 in federal student loans for Pell Grant recipients.
Public Service Loan Forgiveness: Overhauled the PSLF program to make it easier for borrowers to qualify for loan forgiveness.
Pandemic Response: Directed significant funding from the American Rescue Plan to help schools reopen safely and address learning loss.
Equity in Education: Increased funding for schools serving low-income students and strengthened enforcement of civil rights laws in schools.
But you gotta realize, I didn’t mention Biden’s accomplishments. It’s all arguing against something I wasn’t even talking about. So as great as your comment is, it’s kinda misplaced.
I think its more like when you see somebody step on a rake and it hits them in the face. The natural response is to be like “oh no” . Fortunately these are second hand sources and Walz is hopefully on hand to check some of the more lawyer tendencies when dealing with the public.
You didn’t say how any of her plans are going to be bad for America. Why don’t you go to the points you highlife and tell us how they’re going to hurt Americans. Show us you really understand the things you don’t like.
The article says it, has Harris said she isn’t going to do anything about fracking?
And just because she changed some of her views to win battle ground states means you don’t support her anymore and are going to vote for Trump? No candidate is perfect. It she’s so much better than Trump
Oh shut up lmao. I’m voting for the best candidate. I’m not sorry I don’t support a convicted felon. Harris isn’t perfect but she’s so much better than Trump.
You can pick any president in history and nit-pick their policies. What you’re doing is making it seem like she’s a worse option than a convicted felon. And just because I support her doesn’t mean that I’m blindly following her. Stop projecting.
You’re free to criticize anyone you want. I’m criticizing Trump. I’m telling you she isn’t perfect. I’m telling you that I’m booting for the best candidate. Tell me, how am I silencing progressive voices when I am saying she isn’t perfect?
But why don’t you go and tell us who you plan on voting for?
I’m an American expat that hasn’t lived there since I was a baby but if I can figure out how to vote it’ll be for Harris.
You’re silencing voices with your reaction, we can share in our disappointment that she apparently no longer supports Medicare for All and we can share in our disappointment that she apparently softened her climate strategy without accusing each other of being saboteurs and doing the equivalent of asking to see my papers to prove I’m not a Trump supporter.
I asked the person I responded to originally to tell us why he doesn’t like the policies he pointed out. YOU responded with a basic answer instead. You didn’t Say how her policies were going to hurt America.
What’s rabid, psychotic behavior is downplaying Harris to help Trump. You’re acting like no política has ever changed their opinion on a topic. Harris is doing what she needs to do to win those battle states. I understand that no presidential candidate is going to align with all of my political views but I’m on with that. Especially when they’re going up against Trump.
Lmao you’re a clown. You’re acting like you’re being persecuted. I told you multiple times Harris is not perfect. Do you want me to call her a bitch like Trump does? Do you want me to call her dumb like Trump does? Tell me how to properly criticize her because apparently if I don’t criticize her exactly like you do than that means I am a Harris dick rider.
But why don’t you use this space to properly criticize her policies. Don’t just go and say “fracking bad”. Tell us how their policies are going to hurt America and the American people. Name her policies and how exactly they are bad policies.
Yea you don’t know what you’re talking about. I don’t believe you’re a Harris voter at all. And that’s fine, vote for who ever you want.
I gave you the opportunity to discuss your issues with her policies and you refuse. It seems you’re only interested in talking when you get to spew simple statements, when pushed for details you just run away. That just proves you don’t know what you’re talking about.
You think I care about your opinion? You dont have the balls to stand for what you believe in. Someone gives you the platform to discuss what bothers you about a candidate and you run away instantly. That’s prettt cowardly in my book.
Yea you’re a weird guy. You come into my conversation with someone else and you get mad when I ask you for further details on the policies you don’t like.
You don’t have integrity. Your parents must be so proud of the person you have become
Nah you’re definitely a weirdo. You butt in to other peoples conversation and then you get mad when people ask you to clarify your statement. You’re just a weird guy. I bet you hear that a lot too.
He hit me with the Democrat forced meme. Since I’m a Republican in disguise, I’m withering away oh nooo. Now I won’t every reply to this guy agaiiiiiiinnn
Isnt this how hillary clinton lost? appealing too much to nobody in particular?
The center is small and fickle in the US. Imo its less they’re turned off by leftist policies (people forget red florida passed higher min wages by initiative) and more they’re turned off by democrats who drag their feet or complicate things unneccessarily or who balk when their corporate donors tighten the leash.
The way to campaign in the US is to distance yourself from parties while sticking to popular policies.
Yeah that “will single out meat prices” got my eyes rolling so hard I might have a knot in my nerves now.
Meat production is one of the main contributors to the climate crisis. We need to produce less of it. I get that campaigning with that message would probably not be popular, but just focussing on groceries would have been enough right?
It’s also just one of those things where people will never be happy. Unless you can get a prime cut porterhouse for a nickel, you’re going to have the ahem meat heads screaming that you’ve failed them. Would love to buy a head of lettuce for under $3, though. Or a bag of onions. We used to practically give away corn and now it’s two ears for $1.
So much basic foodstuff has skyrocketed in price, well before you get to the pork chops and chilean seabass.
Bird flu and swine flu are two of the biggest pressure points on agricultural supply. Heat and drought are also doing horrible things to cattle stock. Will her support for small businesses address this?
Are we pretending that the American meat industry is small business now?
As for housing, the ONLY answer is to remove corporate ownership of single-family dwellings.
Are we pretending that the American meat industry is small business now?
This isn’t a “small business” problem. Firms like Tyson and Smithfield can suffer hundreds of millions in loses in the event of a livestock flu outbreak. Their mega-farms and super-sized slaughterhouses are rife with disease, which is why their animals have to be pumped full of antibiotics and antivirals practically from birth. And that’s before you get into the risk of their ag workers getting infected by a mutant strain and turning the disease into a global pandemic. The so-called Spanish Flu got started on a pig farm just outside a Kansas City military base, before spreading to the front lines in Europe during America’s late entry into WW1.
That’s the kind of enormous tail risks the meat industry is juggling right now. And its a major driver behind inflating pork, chicken, and egg prices.
As for housing, the ONLY answer is to remove corporate ownership of single-family dwellings.
No way Harris does anything even resembling this. The Real Estate Industry would revolt en mass.
when i was 6 years old, ice’s predecessor impounded the only vehicle my family owned at the time; a 1978 ford econoline 250 family van; and held it for over a year on the suspicion that we were smuggling drugs & people across the border.
when they finally agreed to return it after multiple requests from a cheap lawyer; they made us travel six hours to collect it and it was literally in pieces and in different cities. ie: cylinder head was in one garage; brake calipers were in a another; engine block was in the garage in the next city over; transmission was also dissembled into component pieces and we had to travel to california to get it.
immigration (aka ice’s predecessor) did not have the mechanical know-how to deconstruct a large family van so they clearly sent it to mechanics across 4 border cities to deconstruct it for them all the way down to their constituent parts. there’s no conceivable way that those mechanics didn’t already know why they’re deconstructing an already older van by that time, but they did it anyways. (and they weren’t paid for it)
to make it clearer that the cruelty was the point (we were a family of 7 surviving off of minimum wage so reassembling an entire car was already not realistic) they gave us 30 minutes to collect all of those car pieces and it was a large family van so 30 minutes was not realistic either; especially since only 75% of those pieces were in arizona between 2 cities and the rest were in california.
in the end, joke was on them, though. we were lucky enough to have a large enough circle of family and friends that were willing to help across both states to collect the parts within that 30 minute window and also have enough mechanical competency among us to reconstruct the van from all of the parts and, as a result, that van ran without ANY mechanical issues for almost 20 years; we didn’t spend a penny on it after rebuilding it.
I left out the parts that were so truly infuriating that even 5 year old kept asking myself “wtf?!!!” at our exchanges w the officers, the judge, the bailiffs, and the police.
Even more hopeful: a sudden change implies a common trigger and maybe something can be done about that trigger (sorry if the article answered it, I didn’t read)
Probably we need regulations and laws that require these massive online platforms to provide tools like this. Since they decided not to do it “voluntarily” anymore.
Adults living in Manhattan Beach, Redondo Beach and Hermosa Beach – “the Beach Cities” – in Los Angeles County are estimated to save $182.4 million on healthcare costs each year thanks to lower rates of obesity, diabetes and smoking there.
This is very revealing. But the reporting that follows is startling - emphasis in bold is mine:
Gallup estimates Beach Cities residents spend $95.3 million more on healthcare each year because of obesity, diabetes and smoking than what would be expected if all residents were of normal weight, did not have diabetes and did not smoke. By comparison, the estimated extra expenditures for the Beach Cities would nearly triple, jumping to $277.7 million annually, if these indicators mirrored the national rates; so for residents of Hermosa Beach, Manhattan Beach and Redondo Beach, their collective high level of wellbeing represents $182.4 million in healthcare cost savings.
More money spent on healthcare ends up saving costs. Imagine that!
It sounds like maintaining good health is… beneficial on so many levels. Maybe sound healthcare policies should be adopted everywhere in the USA.
We’re also talking about rich people who can do things like hire personal trainers.
Median household income in Manhattan Beach is $187,217 and that includes all the people doing things like renting the rich people’s guest houses in the back of their mansion. Which is a big thing in L.A.
The money going in is what’s important to note. By paying for health up front, by putting in the time and money, people will pay less for a better quality of life in the long run. This happened in a rich region because it’s one of the only places that could escape the crushing chronic economy over a broad population. But the ultimate point is that communities can save literally tens of thousands per person by paying hundreds.
To be fair, this is a legitimate scientific hypothesis (the Grandmother Hypothesis) that attempts to explain why human females, unlike almost every other species, have a lifespan that outlasts their reproductive cycle. It’s just hypothesis, and even if it’s correct, drawing conclusions about women’s role in modern society based on a trait we developed before agriculture is just stupid, but what he’s saying isn’t as crazy as the headline is implying.
There absolutely is. Vance is describing how his mother-in-law took a sabbatical to help with their first child, and this specific interaction becomes the focus of the article:
“That’s the whole purpose of the postmenopausal female in theory,” Weinstein said at the time.
“Yes,” Vance agreed.
That’s…mostly correct. He should has said, “hypothesis,” instead of, “theory,” and it’s certainly oversimplification, but otherwise, that’s a correct assessment of the Grandmother Hypothesis.
Now, it’s fucking weird to apply that hypothesis to modern society. It’s very strange how Vance can only analyze his mother-in-laws actions through the lens of traditional family values vs. free market capitalism. It’s also pretty telling that Vance ignores the racist comment the interviewer makes when he calls this, “a weird, unadvertised feature of marrying an Indian woman.” But the article glossed over those comments and goes out of its way to make the, “postmenopausal women,” statement sound crazy, without even acknowledging the Grandmother Hypothesis.
It’d be like if Vance said, “You know, if multiverse theory is correct, there may be an Earth where couches have vaginas,” and I wrote an article about how Vance has this crazy belief that there’s more than one Earth. That’s actually not that crazy, and it really shouldn’t be the focus.
That’s fair, I don’t think the nuance really changes how inappropriate his comments are (nor do you) but perhaps I was too harsh to say there’s no need to be charitable.
He’s a scumbag regardless, and I could understand not confronting the other person in the moment but afaik he hasn’t distanced himself from these comments since, but you weren’t making excuses for him as my reaction implied.
Males absolutely are. The reason men aren’t, is because we couldn’t afford the infanticide, conflict and lack of genetic diversity. We have a lot of adaptations to navigate and reduce male aggression. From women killing their own newborns, to periods and ambryonic wasting, to monogamy, to a great theory of mind, to vindictiveness, to working together, to crying/smiling… it goes on.
The only reason you aren’t like the average ape, is because men adopted female ape behaviour. Ever read about just how much estrogens influence the development of the human brain? It gives us a lot of aspects that makes humans cool.
Male apes couldn’t care less about their offspring, but men express prolactin after their baby is born in order to take care of it. It’s why you don’t try to maul other men to be the only option left. It’s why rape is actually pretty rare in humans. It’s why rape is almost exclusively a matter of exerting power. Rather than a reproductibe strategy.
Men and women outlast their reproductive years. Though it is harder to reduce men’s fertility completely, it still occurs in the form of andropause. Since count and quality are important for sucess. If this wasn’t the case, men wouldn’t live as long as they do. (Just look at orca’s) Death is needed to prevent parents competing with their own offspring. It’s why we age.
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