So, she’s 13 and we’re blaming the lack.of abortion as the problem? SHE’S 13! That should be the problem.
EDIT: What’s really disturbing is that people on this thread care more about abortion rights that the fact that a 12 year old was raped. You SICK FUCKS!
They can both be problems. We're not limited to just one.
Stopping rape is a slightly more complex problem than lack of access to abortion, considering the latter was significantly less of a problem last year.
It’s a sick world that someone would rape a 12 or 13 year old. I still think this article focuses on the wrong issue. If I were President, I’d lead a charge to make raping a minor a federal death penalty issue.
What issue would you rather have the article focus on? The fact that a 13 year old can’t get an abortion after being raped and now she has to deal with the repercussions of this act for. the. rest. of. her. life. is the natural outgrowth of these anti-abortion laws. Most people know rape is bad, and raping 13 year olds is really bad. Most people also probably don’t know or have exposure to 13-year-old moms whose children are the product of rape. Now, at least, we can read about them and maybe, just maybe, question whether this is really the path we want to go down (I say “we” but I can say for certain it’s not the path I want to go down).
The biggest issue for me is the rape. My sister was raped by my dad when she was that age. Fortunately, she never got pregnant. It destroyed my family. That’s probably why that’s a bugger issue for me…
Jesus dude, women get raped all the time. Thousands of girls, boys, men, children are raped every day. I’ve been raped. We’re immersed in rape because our species rapes a lot.
This isn’t about YOUR anger or YOUR penalties if YOU were president. This isn’t about you at all! This is about the tragic consequences of abolishing humane medical care and support for people in need. You know, “the least of us” that the christian nationalists love to crucify. Take yourself out of this story and try to find a loving response.
Well, she was raped, so I don’t really know what her age has to do with it here (other than to make it maybe subjectively more bad than just regular old adult-on-adult rape, but I digress).
First, whoever raped her belongs in that special level of Hell reserved for rapists, child molesters and Justin Beiber fans. I’ve said this before, there should always be an exemption for rape, incest and medical necessity. This is one area that I disagree with other fellow conservatives. It’s a fucking disgrace that there aren’t exceptions.
Ah, so then you understand that by definition, only medical doctors are able to decide what is and isn't a medical necessity, and therefore how unreasonable it is that anyone else besides doctor and patient would think they should have a say in the matter? Great, glad we got that settled!
Exactly. And since a medical doctor is the one who is qualified to determine what would risk a pregnant woman's life, none of us could possibly have a say in the matter because we're not qualified to do so.
I'm very happy to be able to find some common ground with a conservative on this fine day. I also do not listen to Justin Bieber songs. Let's keep searching for more common ground and unite our feuding peoples. We can do this!
What’s the line between medical necessity and medical advisability? When do things become a necessity? Take something like the water breaking at 17 weeks. Is an abortion an immediate medical necessity even though the woman’s life isn’t yet in immediate danger?
What happens to doctors when courts decide that they fell on the wrong side of that line?
The problem with things like this is that drawing the line badly or fuzzily and medical mistakes lead to women dying. Abortion was legalized in Ireland after one mistake like that, when doctors didn’t want to violate the ill-specified law and erred on the side of intervening too late. The mother died.
It’s ONE of the problems. Along with a child being raped and the police donning jack all until the press contacted them, and then they did the bare minimum. And the fact she had to have this baby she doesn’t want and can’t care for is now her lifelong problem. And a lot more women and children like this girl are gonna have to bear children they don’t want because of these abortion laws.
honestly, looking at the list of things that were taken- including personal devices and an amazon device used to stay in contact with aging parents- it’s amazing the judge didn’t send the warrant back for being overbroad.
I find it inconceivable that the journalists didn’t know to keep their devices segregated between personal contacts and work contacts- precisely to shield your personal device from these kinds of raids.
it’s also dubious as to what they expect to find on the amazon device… even if it was recording them… that data’s generally not stored on the device itself.
To be fair to the journalist(s), it could be a budgetary issue. It’s a small town, and their 98-year-old mother was living with them.
Was.
The stress of the search killed her.
Meyer also blames the home raid for stressing his 98-year-old mother enough to cause her death on Saturday. Joan Meyer was the newspaper’s co-owner.
Oh… Fun Fact. I’m from KCMO where the Chief served for 24 years. Look up our gun violence rate (maybe you can’t, I tried, and it looks like news agencies just stopped counting due to the frequency - the last one was just on Saturday) and our homicide rate.
To be fair to the journalist(s), it could be a budgetary issue. It’s a small town, and their 98-year-old mother was living with them.
Sure, I suppose I could see that. But… it is difficult to imagine the cops would know they use personal devices for work like that. They almost literally took everything that could hold data, receive communications and maybe nark. if those devices were covered under the warrant (which must specifically state what’s to be seized- new things they want to seize requires a new warrant) then the warrant was probably over-broad and itself subject to scrutiny.
Keep in mind, that they need to enumerate specific items- and specifically where they are to be found. “Any devices found at xyz premises” is much too broad. And they have to show a reason why they believe that it contains evidence of wrong doing.
side note… it’s difficult to imagine that the story on the restaurant owner couldn’t have been obtained without using confidential data. Arrest records and convictions are public. and all it would take is camping out on a public street to prove she was still driving.
it’s amazing the judge didn’t send the warrant back for being overbroad.
When you apply for a search warrant, you're supposed to swear out a probable cause affidavit first, laying out the evidence you have that you need you search this place. The probable cause affidavit goes to the judge, who either approves, denies, or requests more information for the search warrant. Interesting thing is that no one seems to be able to find a copy of affidavit for this search warrant.
Honestly, the whole thing comes off as incredibly punitive: the restaurant owner is pissed because the DUI might sink her chances of getting a very lucrative liquor license. The guy who owns the hotel the restaurant is in, and who can raise the rent once the liquor license goes through, just happens to be the DA's brother. And the paper was investigating the police chief due to several allegations of alleged sexual assault at his old job - and the contact information for the people who made those allegations just happens to be on one of the computers the police chief confiscated in his raid. But I'm sure there's nothing to see here. Kermit sips tea
I’m concerned that they will use this leak to somehow claim a mistrial since the charges were leaked before they selected the jury, and they’ll win the appeal.
16-10-20 - given that we’re all learning about Georgia law tonight, it was fascinating to read that they also have a “lying to the government” law like the one that so many people cite in federal cases
Disgusting, just $2 million for maternal care? They spend more money on highways than they do for providing care so people can have healthy deliveries and abortions. I sure hope none of the law makers ever have to live in the hell they created in Mississippi.
I've seen this happen so many times and it's always so embarrassing. There's a lovely template that you can slap onto an article that says something along the lines of "this article appears to have been edited by someone with a close association with the subject." It's truly a marvel in how close it skates towards saying, "the subject of this bio didn't like parts of what people were saying, so they edited it to suit themselves" without saying exactly that. It's subtly brutal.
Fortunately for the feelings of people who edit their own wiki bios, I suspect that they probably don't feel the sense of shame that I would if I were in that position.
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