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CyanFen , in Where are the homes? Glaring need for housing construction underlined by Century 21 CEO

The issue is not the number of houses, it’s who owns them. There are 16 million houses with nobody living in them because private investors are buying them purely as an investment.

OnionQuest ,

Where are those houses? Nowhere anyone wants to live

GBU_28 ,

That’s fine, there are other homebuyers than you

JustAManOnAToilet ,

I mean, The Grand Tour bought a house for $2200 in a bad area of Detroit that nobody wanted. There are a shitload available starting at around $500. Have at it.

criticon ,

Yes, you can buy a house for between $500-$1,000 and even cheaper but the catch is, as of 2018, you have to bring the property up to code within 6 months.

Conservative estimates three years ago was you’d need between $60,000-$100,000 to bring everything in a dilapidated house up to code

tiremeetsroad.com/…/did-the-grand-tour-really-buy…

CyanFen ,

That’s not true at all. Most of the houses are in prime areas, otherwise they would be bad investments for the people buying them.

doppelgangmember ,

Nobody wants to live on the streets usually either?

Kyrgizion , in Whistleblowers beg leaders to 'stop the chaos' as more than 900,000 Texans are kicked off Medicaid

It’s not mismanagement if the explicit, if secretive, goal is to simply remove as many users of the service as possible, knowing most of them don’t easily have the means to fight back.

Very much by design, and deeply evil to boot.

JustAManOnAToilet , in GM, Ford furlough another 500 workers due to UAW strike

Anyone have the total of jobs lost due to this strike?

APassenger ,

They’re not lost. Some people are not working now, but the jobs will exist as soon as strike ends.

BeanTea , in Kansas police chief who led raid on small weekly newspaper has resigned, official says

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  • Kbobabob ,

    Deportation? You want to deport them to their home country… of America?

    BeanTea ,

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  • qwertyqwertyqwerty ,

    Would it still really be Point Nemo if people live there?

    mriormro ,
    @mriormro@lemmy.world avatar

    This is incredibly unconstitutional.

    BeanTea ,

    So is raiding a journalist’s house to get political revenge…

    GONADS125 ,

    So justification thru whataboutism?

    Fuck the police, but also fuck eroding our constitutional rights…

    BeanTea ,

    Point me to a time a cop was appropriately punished under the parameters of the law.

    A white, union cop.

    GONADS125 , (edited )

    Listen man, I’m no supporter of the police… I have worked for years with the population that is fucked over by the criminal justice system and stuck in the revolving door. I have known good police fucked over and forced out by corruption and dirty piece of shit cops. The criminal justice system is systemically racist and in need of so much reform.

    And I’m angry and pissed off about it too. But that doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t have calculated responses instead of calling for things that ultimately undermine our rights and would possibly allow for worse treatment of US citizens by the justice system.

    And because there are so many emotions tied into this problem (and justifiably so when there are unaccountable murders and rapists with badges and impunity), people on the same side of the issue become at odds when discussing approaches to address the issue.

    This is not directed at you [Edit: actually it 100% is!] (certainly other users), but there is a significant amount of people who make actual societal change harder because of the fact that they are emotionally reasoning with great rigidity. They will be at the throats of other people on the same side, any time the smallest disagreement arises.

    Look at the childish responses I received by the top commenter [yourself], despite the fact that I agree with their sentiment. But because I disagreed with one aspect, they became emotional and created a wedge between people on the same side of the issue.

    I’m pissed off and want retribution, not just an end. I want to feel that visceral satisfaction imagining an eye-for-an-eye justice inflicted on these sick pieces of shit. But I am not so emotional and deluded that I can’t remain in the real world and focus on realistic goals and movements.

    BeanTea ,

    Dude, you’re literally the guy who just lectured me about reading comprehension saying that I didn’t realize I was responding to the wrong person

    I’m the top commenter you’re complaining about.

    Hahahahahahahahahahaha

    GONADS125 ,

    Yeah didn’t read your username there. But I’ll admit that! I don’t typically pay attention to usernames.

    BeanTea ,

    LOL come on dude. That was the whole basis of your criticizing my reading comprehension. Your comedic timing is excellent

    BeanTea ,

    So I just wanted to confirm your claim that incorrectly responding to a user indicates poor reading comprehension. That is what you indicated to me, so I just wanted to confirm.

    GONADS125 ,

    Nope, you didn’t read it clearly! I said you may have mistaken me for another user or it may have been your poor reading comprehension. So your poor reading comprehension has struck yet again! Hahaha

    Reading comprehension and reading usernames are two different things.

    BeanTea ,

    What a sad defense lol. This is too hilarious. That’s not even taking into account the context of you criticizing someone’s intellect with your career. Community college really did a number on you huh?

    BeanTea ,

    Oh and it’s not that I didn’t read clearly. “I just don’t pay attention to that”

    😁

    GONADS125 ,

    I had a client tell me to go back to wherever I came from (I’m a pasty ass white guy) and she left this letter on my car accusing me of being a middle-eastern “Islamic Jew” and telling me to do something with “your gold”, and to “bury your head in the sand.”

    It was one of the more amusing accusations I’d received over the years. I tried to address the letter with her and she just kept telling me “Move back to whatever country you came from.” I said I was born in the US, and told her that I’m mostly of Irish decent, and she looked me dead in the eyes and said so matter of fact: “Then go back to Ireland” and stormed off.

    I wasn’t upset and when she went back in the facility I couldn’t help but let out a pretty good laugh. Another client was on the porch laughing and he was just saying “Man you’re so white!” (he was black and seemed so amused by the accusations). My hair is black, but my skin is Conan white… My supervisor was an African American (in that she immigrated here from South Africa) and she would tease me relentlessly about being ‘middle-eastern’ for years.

    But that wild note under my windshield was a lot better than the rocks that Client covered a facility worker’s car with! My supervisor made me drop that client from my caseload fearing more false accusations.

    Man, sorry for this rant out of no where… That user and your response just made me think of it. That deportation part of his comment was just so absurd it just brought me back to that other situation.

    BeanTea ,

    Deportation - noun.

    The action of forcing someone to leave a country, but especially someone who has no legal right to be there or who has broken the law.


    Does not at all depend on your nationality. Simply another way of saying kick criminal cops out of America.

    So why is that part of the comment absurd?

    GONADS125 ,

    Under the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, the government cannot revoke the citizenship of a natural-born U.S. citizen (U.S.C).

    Edit: hyperlinking that source didn’t work… findlaw.com/…/can-your-u-s-citizenship-be-revoked…)%20from%20the%20United%20States.

    BeanTea ,

    I’m familiar with the law.

    Amendments are an important part of the constitutional process. Especially for domestic terrorists.

    Bootlickers going to bootlick though I guess

    GONADS125 ,

    You’re just an insufferable person, aren’t you?

    You think I support the police in this country simply for not agreeing with something you said? How old are you? Because you’re acting like an opinionated teenager with black and white thinking.

    Grow up.

    BeanTea ,

    No no no!!! We can’t be mean to cops that’s against the law!!!

    I don’t care if you disagree, your entire premise was that deportation is only for immigrants. You were objectively wrong on that point. As soon as I pointed that out you pivoted to constitutionality because you knew you were wrong and you couldn’t admit it.

    Cry me a River. Or maybe just write another 17 paragraph essay about your life experiences 🤣

    GONADS125 ,

    No no no!!! We can’t be mean to cops that’s against the law!!!

    Never said that. Pay more attention in school! You may have reading comprehension problems.

    your entire premise was that deportation is only for immigrants.

    I never said it was only for immigrants; I simply linked an excerpt stating that natural born US citizens cannot be deported. Are you mixing me up with the other commenter, or is this just your poor reading comprehension getting the best of you again?

    Cry me a River. Or maybe just write another 17 paragraph essay about your life experiences 🤣

    Why do so many people online think people on the other side of disagreements are upset and emotional? Just a projection? I’m calm, collected, and amused by you. I’m having a great morning enjoying my coffee!

    Just remember to focus on that reading comprehension! Peace out and fuck the police!

    BeanTea ,

    If only I had your reading comprehension, I could have your illustrious career.

    Jaded ,

    What do you think “someone who has no legal right to be there” is a reference too? When would a citizen not have the legal right to be in his own country? How often have you heard of a citizen being deported from his own country? It’s literally against international law.

    JJROKCZ ,

    I think the word they’re looking for is exile.

    RizzRustbolt ,

    Slap a crazy pantomime head on them, stick them on a mule and send them into the desert.

    BarrelAgedBoredom ,

    I’m a police abolitionist and going through your exchange here is almost enough to get me to reconsider my position. You really ought to do some reading into the case for abolition. Your undirected rage is doing more harm than good. Sit down, think and learn about the concepts you’re trying to communicate because you sound like a literal child right now. Maybe you’re just a troll and I’m falling for the bait but jeeeeeeesus christ you’re insufferable

    quindraco ,

    That’s not how deportation works.

    zaph ,

    You can’t make someone stateless and for very good reason. Congrats, you suggested the one thing worse than execution.

    TransplantedSconie , in Whistleblowers beg leaders to 'stop the chaos' as more than 900,000 Texans are kicked off Medicaid

    This is what you voted (or more importantly DIDNT vote) for, Texas.

    Way to own the libs, yo.

    And Greg Abbott is a piss baby.

    qooqie ,

    Somehow, deep down, all these Texans just know it’s the damn liberals fault for this /s

    SuiXi3D ,
    @SuiXi3D@kbin.social avatar

    Certainly wasn’t what I voted for, but I’m in Austin so my voting blue doesn’t really count for much.

    troglodytis ,

    Governor and Senators are statewide elections. Your vote absolutely counts.

    fne8w2ah , in France to quit making cigarettes as last factory prepares to close

    Ironic that back in the 50s physicians used to prescribe smoking as a health benefit! 🙄🤣

    andy_wijaya_med ,
    @andy_wijaya_med@lemmy.world avatar

    It helps against one disease, as far as I know (believe me I’m a doctor.).

    The disease is ulcerative colitis.

    Fun fact: Alcohol improves symptom of one disease too. The disease is called essential tremor.

    Hardeehar ,

    That’s a little outdated info now, isn’t it? UC is helped by the nicotine. So why not get prescribed a patch instead?

    andy_wijaya_med ,
    @andy_wijaya_med@lemmy.world avatar

    That’s true. :) I don’t even know whether they treat UC with nicotine nowadays.

    dangblingus ,

    *Actors acting as physicians on television

    FlyingSquid , in A contract for 75,000 Kaiser Permanente workers expired. Historic US health care strike could start Wednesday
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    I have a chronic illness and am fighting another illness. I would be fucked without healthcare, but workers deserve to be treated better. I guess if I had KP, I would be willing to suffer on their behalf. I wouldn’t die, I would just be in a lot more pain.

    EDIT: Thinking on this, that might have sounded selfish. I meant to say the opposite- that patients need to be behind the workers too.

    Chetzemoka ,

    As a nurse who also suffers from a painful chronic illness, I appreciate you. We’re currently unionizing at my hospital because we’ve tried literally every single other thing we could think of - reporting detailed safety events, protesting assignments - and the hospital simply refuses to hire more staff. None of us want to strike, but the working conditions we’re currently experiencing make it impossible for us to do the right thing for our patients. None of us want to strike, but if we do so, it’s because we were left with no other option. Believe me, all we want is to be able to safely and successfully do our jobs.

    Solidarity forever.

    TedJ70 , in US agency sues Tesla as Black workers report “swastikas, threats, and nooses”
    @TedJ70@aussie.zone avatar

    And in breaking news,

    checks notes

    A company owned by a notorious Nazi is apparently full of Nazis.

    JasSmith , in US Rep. Henry Cuellar of Texas carjacked by three armed attackers about a mile from Capitol

    Washington really is turning into a shit hole. I guess legislators saw Portland and San Francisco and thought, “that looks like a great way to run a city!”

    glimse ,

    Can’t believe they legalized car jacking smh

    massive_bereavement ,
    @massive_bereavement@kbin.social avatar

    It is though one effective way of increasing public transportation usage.

    EDIT: If I see this converted in a news article.....

    glimse ,

    It’s all coming together now…Car jacking are a liberal conspiracy to reduce emissions!

    ChaoticEntropy ,
    @ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk avatar

    There’s plenty of public transportation, assuming any member of the public can requisition any car at any point.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Portland and San Francisco aren’t even in the top 20 worst cities for crime in the U.S.

    Granted, San Francisco is , but I can’t imagine why you didn’t say “Memphis, TN” (#1) or “Little Rock, AR” (#5)…

    ivanafterall ,
    @ivanafterall@kbin.social avatar

    D.C. didn't make the list either.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Yep. I’ve been to D.C. I’ve been to Baltimore. I didn’t feel unsafe at all despite the right constantly using those as examples of cities that are war zones.

    massive_bereavement ,
    @massive_bereavement@kbin.social avatar

    Neither does Chicago or Detroit.

    And while SLC and San Francisco have some rough areas, there are a lot of high quality services and perks of living there (if you can afford it).

    Sadly, Memphis doesn't surprise me.

    EDIT: Funny to see Boulder being on the #4 as best places to live while Denver is on this list.

    teamevil ,

    I’ve lived in both, you figure out how and where not to go pretty quickly.

    DrPop ,

    As long as you have common sense most places aren’t too dangerous. Just keep to yourself if you’re in the sketchy neighborhood and don’t hang around at night. I think these representative are use to small towns where meth heads steal your ladder and don’t kill because usually people know who they are.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    And that’s true about pretty much any city. Just learn where the sketchy parts are and avoid them.

    That said, people even get carjacked in those small towns. It can literally happen anywhere.

    vaultdweller013 ,

    I live in a small city in SoCal, Yucaipa for those curious. And people lement that the city is getting so dangerous now, meanwhile the worst crime I know of was a methhead shooting someone in a fucking parking lot. Ya can still walk around at 2 in the morning and the worst threat would probably be the cars.

    prole ,

    They never have a reply to this one.

    I brought up the existence of per capita statistics in another thread about gun violence in cities, and crickets

    sadreality ,

    Numbers hurt people's politics

    DLSchichtl ,

    LR adjacent here. It’s bad, but still nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be.

    altima_neo ,
    @altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

    lol I take it you’ve never been to Portland

    HubertManne ,

    Has it ever been great. I was looking at a position at university of maryland at one point and it was sorta crazy as anywhere you could live was either really cheap and scary or expesive and luxurious. I could not find anything in-between.

    Fedizen ,

    the 'ole “Portland is now a flaming crater becausw the news showed me a picture of a flaming trash can” narrative.

    hex_m_hell , in Baltimore CEO, 26, was killed by a repeat offender who should have never been on the street, officials allege

    Any system that classifies things has two types of errors: false positives and false negatives. As you increase one you decrease the other. It’s as simple as that. So if you want to be 100% sure you put every bad person in prison you just put everyone in prison. Anything short of that you’re going to miss some. How many innocent people being tortured or killed by the system does it take to equal the value of killing or torturing one guilty person or even keeping one guilty person in prison for the rest of their lives?

    Stories like this primarily exist to justify massive amounts of violence by the state to ostensibly prevent things like this… except they never actually do. The criminal legal system is the only system that uses its own failure to perpetually justify additional investment. As long as you have prisons, you will have this. You will have people who go to prison and become more dangerous. You will have people falsely imprisoned and even murdered. You will have police murdering people regularly and getting away with it in the name of “preventing” crimes like this. All you need to do is look at the clearance rates for police and the recitivism rate for prisons to see that they just aren’t worth the investment.

    Until we shift to a public health model of public safety, this is guaranteed. Public health approachs like investment in early childhood education, restorative justice systems, and making mental healthcare more accessible have been proven repeatedly to have multiple times higher return on investment than police or prisons.

    While revenge feels good and feels intuitive based on the history of the legal system, it doesn’t fit with modern psychology. Classifier based punitive legal systems must always either cause suffering by action or inaction because that’s part of the fundamental definiton of classifiers and punitive systems. Making sure people like this are in prison means making sure innocent people are also in prison. Is it worth it?

    OneWomanCreamTeam ,

    It’s disappointing to see you getting down voted like this.

    Like sure, this guy probably shouldn’t be on the streets, but how many innocent people are we willing to imprison in the process of keeping people like him behind bars?

    All the while our education, healthcare and social safety nets are being dismantled. All the things that actually help reduce violent crime.

    Rawdogg , in North Carolina Republicans create "secret police force"

    How very ss of the repugnicunts

    FordBeeblebrox , in A contract for 75,000 Kaiser Permanente workers expired. Historic US health care strike could start Wednesday

    Solidarity! Keep up the good fight ✊

    sadreality , in Arizona moves to end Saudi farm's controversial groundwater deals to grow, export alfalfa

    Fucking communist!!!

    Why does she hate free markets...

    Spacebar ,
    @Spacebar@lemmy.world avatar

    You forgot your ‘air quotes’ to indicate sarcasm.

    dumdum666 , in Arizona moves to end Saudi farm's controversial groundwater deals to grow, export alfalfa

    You guys in the US are using up way too much of your groundwater for farming in scorching hot areas like Arizona and Texas even without the Saudis. Isn’t there enough farmland in states with a less hostile climate?

    Salamendacious OP ,
    @Salamendacious@lemmy.world avatar

    In the past there were enormous aquifers below the surface. The water was under so much pressure that you could tap it and it would erupt like a geyser. So for generations farmers in these areas had what they thought was unlimited water. Now those aquifers are empty or nearly empty and these farmers are resistant to that reality.

    dumdum666 ,

    Of course no one wants to face this devastating reality…

    In the end it will probably be a large wealth transfer from the states without groundwater to the ones that still have groundwater. Farmers will have to buy land in the groundwater states and the land in the dry states will be practically worthless.

    Salamendacious OP ,
    @Salamendacious@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m a true believer in technology so I’m hopeful that there will be considerable innovation in desalinization so we can continue to farm in arid areas.

    HobbitFoot ,

    Desalinization would only work in getting Los Angeles and San Diego off of Colorado River water.

    The big money right now is in sewage treatment. There are several treatment plants in inland cities which treat their sewage water so that it can either be used for agricultural purposes or even get recycled as potable water.

    Salamendacious OP ,
    @Salamendacious@lemmy.world avatar

    That’s interesting I’ll have to do some research on that.

    HobbitFoot ,

    One of the more documented cases is the Intel chip plant in Chandler. Intel’s plant treats its effluent to potable standards and pumps the water into the local aquifer to store it. Intel has a lot of water there.

    JJROKCZ ,

    Or we could just not live in the desert, living in biomes suitable to us and wasting fewer resources is more viable

    Salamendacious OP ,
    @Salamendacious@lemmy.world avatar

    I just don’t see how that could be accomplished legally or politically.

    SheeEttin ,

    Subsidies, taxes, tax credits, zoning, etc.

    RedAggroBest ,

    Doesn’t address the entire cities already there. We ain’t forcing entire cities to just abandon ship.

    It’s far more useful if we talk about actually making what’s already there sustainable rather than some authoritarian march out of the deserts.

    Salamendacious OP ,
    @Salamendacious@lemmy.world avatar

    Maybe. (1) I don’t think there’s the political will to enact anything like that & (2) I don’t think that would entice as many people as you think. People get really attached to their home. These areas are growing. The population in the southwest has grown over 11% in the last decade and it’s projected to continue to grow.

    HobbitFoot ,

    It depends on the crops and the time of year.

    A lot of the crops grown in Arizona are fruits and vegetables grown to be harvest in the off-season of typical harvests.

    RedAggroBest ,

    People should note that indigenous groups had also been practicing agriculture along the rivers all through the Mojave and Sonoran deserts. Agriculture isn’t the problem overall, unsustainable crops like alfalfa are.

    HobbitFoot ,

    Maybe, but the Hohokam died out before the Columbian Exchange and part of it may have been related to a dry century.

    RedAggroBest ,

    The Hohokam are far from the only group that have lived in those deserts all along the Colorado and it’s tributaries

    Saxoboneless , in California's new mental health court rolls out to high expectations and uncertainty
    @Saxoboneless@lemmy.world avatar

    WOW does this article bend over backwards to obscure the likelihood that “treatment” is not going to be voluntary. First of all, this is not affected individuals applying for these services, as that would just be social services, a thing that already exists. Here’s how this system works:

    Family members and first responders are among those who can now file a petition on behalf of an adult they believe “is unlikely to survive safely” without supervision and whose condition is rapidly deteriorating. They also can file if an adult needs services and support to prevent relapse or deterioration that would likely result in “grave disability or serious harm” to themselves or others.

    As far as I can tell, this isn’t even remotely exclusive to homeless people, and it feels like burying the lead that Cali’s homeless population is mentioned at all. This is anyone with a psychotic disorder that can be forced into “treatment” by a badge or random family member who claims they’re “deteriorating.” If you think that sounds like it’s putting people with psychotic disorders at a even more heightened risk of being forced into conservatorships, you’d be right:

    A person who does not successfully complete a plan could be subject to conservatorship and involuntary treatment, said Tal Klement, a deputy public defender in San Francisco who is among critics of the new process.

    The article immediately moved to muddy this fact by following it up with two paragraphs that start with this sentence:

    But the statute also allows the court to dismiss the proceedings if the individual declines to participate or to follow the agreement.

    That’s all you need to read - “allows” is extremely different from “requires.” The court is in no way required to respect the wishes of the affected individual as the article irresponsibly attempts to imply, and as these courts are likely to be biased to view the affected individual as a crazy person and the people that reported them as Good Samaritans “just trying to help,” they are probably far more likely to opt for treatment, consensual or not, and this court becomes an excellent method of fast tracking vulnerable people into conservatorships.

    Assuming “first responders” make any use of this, maybe this shields a few people from jail, but as cops aren’t really opposed to sending people to jail, it’s more likely they’ll just use this system when they suspect someone of having a psychotic disorder but can’t get them for an actual crime, if they bother to use it at all.

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