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uebquauntbez , in House Republican Immediately Accuses Biden of Having ‘Sent the Orders’ to Kill Trump in Bizarre Post

So Judas, one of Jesus’ nearest friends betrayed him. History rimes. OK, now we know this, let’s continue like we did 2000 years ago.

Only thing i would not do, change the cross to a gun next to the 10 commandments in each school class, TBH.

FartsWithAnAccent , in House Republican Immediately Accuses Biden of Having ‘Sent the Orders’ to Kill Trump in Bizarre Post
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Of course he did.

ekZepp , in Donald Trump rally shooting being probed as assassination attempt: AP sources
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  • WhatYouNeed , (edited ) in Gunshots reportedly fired at Donald Trump rally - as former president rushed off stage

    Biden can’t withdraw from the race now. It will make him look guilt by association.

    Edit: that was not well articulated. I don’t claim Biden or the government organised this. Simply dump would exploit it to claim it as proof if Biden did stop running now.

    echodot ,

    That’s not how guilt by association works.

    I think that if the government were trying to assassinate him they would have actually done a better job.

    WhatYouNeed ,

    You reckon the orange turnip wouldn’t claim so?

    echodot ,

    That’s not guilt by association that’s just Trump claiming shit. He could, and would, do that regardless.

    Trump doesn’t need an assassination attempt to claim that someone attempted to assassinate him.

    blahsay , in Argentina designates Hamas a terrorist group in show of support for Israel

    I more surprised they weren’t already designated one.

    Etterra , in MEGA THREAD - Trump shot but safe, 2 others killed at PA rally

    I look forward to finding out what the shooters motivations are. I don’t personally expect it to be a left-wing partisan but something else, though I’ll refrain from speculating here. Let’s just say that there current Republican party tends to infight - to try and eat itself any time it senses weakness or deviance from the cult’s marching orders.

    Once law enforcement announced the shooter’s identity and the world gets to dig into his social media and communications data… Well I guess we shall see.

    SeaJ , (edited )

    It’s a 20 year old white guy who was a registered Republican according to the NY Post. But he also gave $15 to The Progressive Turnout Project. According to reports, his dad bought him the rifle a few weeks ago.

    www.usatoday.com/story/news/…/74397935007/

    Etterra ,

    Yep. Not exactly what I was expecting, but pretty damn close. I had suspected an unstable, disillusioned red hat, and I was not disappointed.

    hopesdead , in Donald Trump rally shooting being probed as assassination attempt: AP sources
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    Will this get the GOP to finally support gun bans?

    catloaf ,

    Nope. Remember when someone shot up a congressional softball game and nothing happened?

    something_random_tho ,

    Remember when Jan 6 nutters stormed the Capitol with guns and zip ties and nothing happened to the person inciting all of it?

    Makhno ,

    What people had guns on Capitol grounds? Only guns I know of were the ones found a good distance away…

    III ,

    There were absolutely guns.

    www.statesman.com/story/news/…/7621149001/

    They did also find a stockpile of guns a distance away. Both are true.

    Dudewitbow ,

    Many GOP events already ban guns at the events, they just dont ban it outside them

    floofloof OP ,

    No, it will get them to support preemptively shooting those in the out-group.

    toiletobserver , in MEGA THREAD - Trump shot but safe, 2 others killed at PA rally

    I’ve been wondering where the crazies were on the left, and now i know

    JonsJava OP ,
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    every family has crazies. With that said, we don’t know who it was, their reasoning, or their political leaning.

    Ioughttamow ,

    Or one of the many many people he defrauded. Or someone or a relative of one of his rape victims. Rapey Donald sure loves rapin

    hperrin ,

    Don’t forget committing felonies. A convicted felon and rapist was shot at today.

    Skanky ,

    Still a lot of disinformation going around, but it appears that the shooter was a registered Republican and was wearing a demolition ranch t-shirt.

    It’s all very bizarre.

    dactylotheca ,
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    it appears that the shooter was a registered Republican

    “Ah, a leftist who was so crazy that he voted R”

    – toiletobserver, probably

    DogPeePoo , in Gunshots reportedly fired at Donald Trump rally - as former president rushed off stage

    “Fake news”

    calabast , in Donald Trump speech shooting: Gunshots heard at president’s rally – latest news

    Orange Man Gogh

    Jakdracula , in Gunshots reportedly fired at Donald Trump rally - as former president rushed off stage
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    sp3tr4l ,

    That image is not high enough quality to say that.

    There is a noticably bloody area in is right upper earlobe that could be a chunk taken out by basically a 5.56 round, but again, its too crappy to be definitive.

    Also this twitter poster claiming it is a bb gun is a fucking moron.

    BB Guns do not have have an echoing report after the initial shot, as is easily audible from the shots that occur after the audio re equalizes when Trump goes down from the podium.

    The audio sounds tinny and poppy because it is equalized for human voice in a large outdoor environment. A BB gun would not be audible whatsoever.

    memfree ,
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    So far this is the best pic I could find so far – open it in a new tab to apnews.com

    Image

    sp3tr4l ,

    That is a better pic… good on you for that!

    If the shots came from inside the crowd, as it currently seems they did, the rounds would have travelled at an upward angle, and could have nicked or taken out a small chunk of his ear, around where his ear is most bloody.

    Trump would have had to be basically looking right at the shooter.

    That would make more sense than a downward trajectory from a building or something.

    memfree ,
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    New info from TV coverage says the shooter was outside the secured area and had climbed a low nearby roof.

    Edit for clarity: this is not yet confirmed, so we’ll surely hear more later

    sp3tr4l ,

    Yep, more and more people on CNN are saying as much.

    That would make the elevation difference either flat, or possibly still slightly upward or slightly downward depending on the height of the podium vs surrounding terrain vs height of the apparently single story building the guy was on.

    My main point was that a nicking of the top of the ear would be less likely from a more significant downward trajectory, such as the top of a 20 story building or something like that.

    That trajectory would be more likely to take more of the ear off, going downward further through the ear from where the bloodiest area can be seen in the images.

    JJROKCZ ,

    Didn’t sound like 556 or anything remotely decent size. Honesty sounding like small caliber like 9mm or .22

    sp3tr4l ,

    5.56 and .22 have nearly identical diameters of the actual bullet. .223 vs .22.

    5.56 just has a lot more gunpowder behind it.

    9mm is a significantly larger bullet than a .22.

    Too large, in my estimation, to make the small wound in his ear, if indeed it took a chunk out.

    https://lemmy.zip/pictrs/image/f4f0f382-d2ad-445b-9cda-623f9035b728.webp

    Im going by my best guess at a wound size via images, and its currently being reported that the shooter was outside the event perimeter, meaning the shots would have been taken from likely outside the effective range of a pistol, so, while it is still a guess, I am still going with a 5.56 rifle of some kind.

    Also, in my experience, common pistol rounds barely make any report as can be heard in the audio in similar conditions (large open area).

    The gunshots sound tinny and plinky because the audio was set up for a speech in a loud noisy environment, watch similar audio footage of say a reporter in a warzone and you will find distant rifle rifle sounds similar.

    JJROKCZ ,

    The shooter was only 400ft away… that’s nothing and there are 9mm rifles though I’m not concrete on 9mm, it’s just the report didn’t sound like the lords caliber.

    sp3tr4l ,

    It could be a graze from basically any caliber.

    That being said, there is an interview some British journalist did with a man who witnessed the shooter (I saw the clip on Kyle Kulinsky’s youtube, not sure the actual source of the clip), and he described him as climbing up onto a roof with a rifle.

    Could it be a 9mm technically im a pistol but i looke like a rifle kind of thing? Sure.

    Im sure we will find out within 48 hrs some details about the shooter’s weapon, given that his corpse is already in custody.

    suction ,

    Obvious blood capsule is obvious- just speculating / asking questions .

    sp3tr4l ,

    Yep, the shooter and his rifle have been recovered, and multiple other people were hit by his bullets, but sure buddy, keep being a dumbass.

    return2ozma OP ,
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    It’s over. They’re just going to show this over and over with his fist in the air now…

    https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/0b5c42b7-5ac4-4a5e-a1e7-2d940392d282.jpeg

    revelrous ,

    Maybe? But this is a nation that couldn’t be bothered to give a shit about kindergartners being mowed down. Months is forever in politics.

    Default_Defect ,
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    They don’t care about kids, they care about Trump.

    revelrous ,

    But the crazies always cared about trump, they already thought the FBI doc raid was an attack on him. But those coveted low information voters swing voters? Dunno if this sticks. No national event seems to stick for more than a month. Will this drum up more Trump voters? Or will the fear of wagon circling maga voters push more dems to fall in line and show up in Nov? It’s way too far out to tell.

    Audacious ,

    All I see is hitler using this to foster support for his dictatorship.

    suction ,

    And this will make people who were anti-trump vote for him? Explain that logic please.

    return2ozma OP ,
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    The fence sitters. The ones who were not going to vote.

    BonesOfTheMoon , in Fitness guru Richard Simmons dead at 76

    At least we have the greatest Whose Line Is It Anyways sketch with Richard Simmons ever.

    youtu.be/EeYXjC_HJc8?feature=shared

    Also fuck David Letterman for treating him so badly.

    BobGnarley , in Dr. Ruth Westheimer, America’s diminutive and pioneering sex therapist, dies at 96

    Well, at least she had a very good time while she was here lol

    Veneroso , in Alec Baldwin’s involuntary manslaughter case dismissed, cannot be filed again

    There’s still the possibility of a civil case. You can’t put him jail but you can put him into bankruptcy.

    I heard Rudy Giuliani is looking for work.

    calcopiritus , in Man plotted electrical substation attack to advance white supremacist views, prosecutors say

    Americans need guns! Otherwise they won’t have the freedom to shoot the electrical infrastructure!

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