The court’s decision today holds – as my office has consistently advocated – that the General Assembly had the authority to eliminate cash bail and replace it with a system in which people are detained pending trial only if they pose a threat to the public or are a flight risk.
I’m not too knowledgeable about how the system works, but isn’t this kind of what we did, just now without any requirement for bail?
This seems to remove the only encouragement to return to court without an appropriate replacement.
To my knowledge, I thought bail was basically a ‘loan’ that you get back when you return to court.
No, if you skip hearings for a criminal charge they can issue a warrant for your arrest, throw your ass in jail more or less anywhere they find you in the States, fine you, hit you with another set of criminal charges, and refuse to release you because by that point you’re by definition a flight risk.
Please try to understand something about the American criminal justice system before you comment on it.
Edit - while apparently you can often get bail back under the right circumstances, bail is generally so expensive that even with a bond most people can’t afford it. If bail is only affordable to rich people, it’s in practice a special privilege of the rich.
Had to look it up to double check and edited my comment quite a while before you posted yours, so all I can say is, sure, I agree with you, not that I understand why you chose to respond to an earlier version of my comment. Or did you really spend fifteen minutes drafting a two sentence comment?
Although having seen court clerks play all kinds of nasty games with delivering court notices to defendants and the challenges many indigent defendants face, "you get your bail back if you never miss a single hearing is pretty slim comfort in the real world…
You know I can see the timestamps, right? You posted the comment at 17:09:18, I replied at 17:20:56, you edited at 17:24:00.
Even if you edited multiple times and that’s only the most recent one, yes, in whatever time it was between me opening this post and submitting the comment, I did spend some time reading about bail, first just to make sure I wasn’t crazy, and then just out of curiosity.
Lol I like that you talked shit about their lack of understanding of the criminal justice system, yet you clearly didn’t understand how bail works. Please try to do better in the future
Forgetting a single thing about a system I haven’t studied or interacted with in over fifteen years doesn’t mean I don’t understand it. You never forget or incorrectly remember anything?
Was I wrong in other parts of my comment? In what other ways did I betray a lack of understanding of the criminal justice system? Was my understanding overall better or worse than the person I was replying to? Did I really show a lower overall level of understanding than the right wing concern troll I was responding to?
Was my bit about bail even the main point of my comment?
In what ways should I do better in future? Never make mistakes? Not correct myself when I catch them? Not complain when other people pile on to correct me long after I’ve corrected myself? Not get annoyed when people who are clearly an order of magnitude slower than me take it on themselves to correct mistakes I’ve already fixed? Please help me be “better,” whatever that’s supposed to mean in this situation.
Please try to understand something about the American criminal justice system before you comment on it.
I wrote a comment starting that I’m not knowledgeable and asking for more opinions.
You told me I don’t understand it, need to read up more and that you have the answers. Then you have people correcting you and you need to edit and correct your comment.
Seems like I have the right amount of confidence in my response, and you are way too over confident.
You were repeating common right-wing talking points about this in exactly the same concern trolling style that many right wing trolls use and have used on this exact topic of discussion. I just didn’t give you the benefit of the doubt that you weren’t exactly what you appeared to be and replied as though you were concern trolling. I still responded to your points.
Also, how much does it really change anything if you get bail back or not? Does it? How so, if so?
Additionally, I caught my mistake quickly and corrected it on my own. The people who are correcting me spent twenty minutes lovingly researching and crafting two sentence responses to an issue I caught on my own and fixed within a couple of minutes. I don’t know why you shouldn’t trust me based on needing to make a single correction. Based on this, you shouldn’t trust any human, living or dead, including the reporter who wrote the above article.
Cash bail drastically over affects poor people. If you dont have money to put up or assests to leverage, you hsve to take a loan that costs 10% of the loan total, i.e if you need 50k, you still need 5k to give up.
If you cant do the above like many poor people, you are stuck in jail while not being convincted of a crime. This almost always costs you your job, your home, all your belongings, your car, custody of your children, on and on. There are countless horror stories of people spending years in jail awaiting trial to be aquiteed and released, having lost everything they have in the world while being found not guilty of the crime.
This system ends that. If youre a flight risk or violent, you stay in jail. If not, you can carry on your life until youre convicted, which is both just and reasonable. It puts the poor and the rich in the same justice system, and thats a good thing.
I love that they find a slide that dropped out of a plane, then shortly after they find a plane that’s missing its slide, and they say “it appears to be the slide in question.” Yeah, I’d say that’s a pretty good bet.
I’m almost certain that any part large enough to be serialized is, so that it can be traced back to manufacture. They could definitely tell which plane that came from, and the serial number(s) of the missing slide. Bet you $5 they’re the same. (And any parts too small to be serialized are recorded in maintenance logs or something, and can still be traced.)
This reminds me of a video a few years ago where a mom was trying to take a picture with her kid and a bison. The kid looked super nervious, but mom kept pushing the kid to get closer. There's gotta be so many close calls like that where people don't realize that national parks are not zoos, and the animals will absolutely fuck you up. Hell, animals in zoos will fuck you up too, that's why they tell you to stay away from the fence.
Last month, the NPS put out warnings following a string of human encounters with Yellowstone wildlife that were going viral on social media.
In one video posted in May, a woman was seen getting close to a bison and taking a selfie, which park officials said was dangerous given the animal's unpredictable movements and actions. The agency noted that bison can run three times faster than humans.
Taking a selfie with a bison is one of the dumbest things a person can ever do lol.
When you are poor, getting money from the government comes with many rules and restrictions. When you are a poor company, getting money from the government comes with zero rules and restrictions.
Texas got the PR for having funded therapy for their prisoners without actually having to help people. The for-profit prison got to make a ton of extra money for their c suite staff and it’s totally fine because they said so.
Yeah, people are not going to stop taking vacations and stop consuming as they have been. Those who calling to do something, I bet they can’t even downsize their lifestyle. Let’s talk about co2 per capita. Let’s talk about Americans with 2+ cars n bigger cars. Let’s talk about food waste in America. America is probably one of the most wasteful country on this planet.
I am a hard-core green dude. Been at for about 15 years ago. Kind of gave up couple years ago. Not worth making my life inconvenient when the whole country doesn’t do jqcksht about it.
I get this comment a lot. A way to make yourself feel better? I know who you going to blame next, the big corps? Remember who they selling to. You! So yes, consumers are to blame. When Joe wants a bigger truck when he can get a prius or take the public transit, guess who’s to blame? Fighting climate change is all about inconvenience. Yall can’t handle the inconvenience and cost of a greener lifestyle. It’s much more convince to blame the government, the big corps, and the rich.
Consumers are partially to blame but remember corporations brainwash the living shit out of people. They’ve effectively stomped out the last bit of hope we had. Go to any YouTube video that mentions a “heat wave” and you’ll see what I’m talking about in the comment section.
The consumers are who these companies sell to. The normal people drive cars, buy plastic, eat meat and dairy, produce unnecessary waste. Of course consumers have a huge responsibility in this.
It is pretty depressing, I agree. You can take heart however in knowing that collectively, we as people cannot do very much. The best thing we can do is elect politicians who will put pressure on the real villains here: the 100 or so corporations that make up 70% of the total Co2 emissions.
Everyone. I am very aware of that. But you can’t expect the whole world to just change from the individual up - it isn’t realistic, because the current state of our civilization requires it. Going around making people feel guilty about using a gas powered car is not helping anything, if anything it hurts the movement because we could come off as assholes, and then no one listens us. People have to like you if you are going to convince anyone of anything.
The only real, substantial thing we can do is get people to elect progressives at this point. That or start disrupting the actions of these companies in any way possible. Telling my parents not to go on vacation though? They’ll think I’ve been brainwashed by AOC and go even further into their trench.
For the record though, I’m not trying to be angry - kudos to you for being conscientious of your impact on the environment and your passion for getting the word out about it.
Everyone. I am very aware of that. But you can’t expect the whole world to just change from the individual up - it isn’t realistic, because the current state of our civilization requires it. Going around making people feel guilty about using a gas powered car is not helping anything, if anything it hurts the movement because we could come off as assholes, and then no one listens us. People have to like you if you are going to convince anyone of anything.
The only real, substantial thing we can do is get people to elect progressives at this point. That or start disrupting the actions of these companies in any way possible. Telling my parents not to go on vacation though? They’ll think I’ve been brainwashed by AOC and go even further into their trench.
For the record though, I’m not trying to be angry - kudos to you for being conscientious of your impact on the environment and your passion for getting the word out about it.
See you just made up an entire conspiracy theory and saying RFK Jr. believes in it.
He did not say what you said he did. He said that it affects jews and asians different than black people. That’s factual.
Stop making up reasons to hate people you disagree with. Listen to them and argue against what they say, not the words you put in their mouth.
Sickle cell targets african americans. Am I now saying there’s a whole conspiracy against the black population by deliberately infecting them with sickle cell?
There are vast differences on how different ethnicities were able to combat the virus.
That’s a fact.
No idea why you’re supporting this man.
Because I’ve listened to what he says and his interactions with people, instead of basing my impressions on him on headlines.
People really need to be more educated to read between the lines instead of taking everything at face value.
Agreed, and they’d see this article and made up controversy is just big media calling the shots. Listen to the candidates interviews and interactions, and I promise you’ll understand every candidate better than just the media conglomerates narratives.
This was clearly a racist and antisemitic comment
Saying that some ethnicities handled the virus better/worse is not racist, nor antisemitic.
Sickle cell affects african americans more than other ethnicities. Is that racist to say?
Sickle cell does not “target” blacks, it is genetically inherited trait. It affects blacks more often as it is thought to have evolved in sub-Saharan Africans as protection from malaria. www.cdc.gov/malaria/about/biology/index.html. So your statement isn’t really a conspiracy, it’s just uninformed.
RFK Jr is on video talking about bioweapons and in that context said that “There’s an argument that it is ethnically targeted…” nypost.com/…/rfk-jr-says-covid-was-ethnically-tar…. People of color are affected by most diseases more that white people. This is not a new phenomenon and is related to racial disparities. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8513546/. Also, the Chinese were hit as hard as everyone else.
On the other hand, reflexive contrarianism is, as the economist Adam Ozimek puts it, a “brain rotting drug.” Those who succumb to that drug “lose the ability to judge others they consider contrarian, become unable to tell good evidence from bad, a total unanchoring of belief that leads them to cling to low quality contrarian fads.”
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