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dogsnest , in Newsmax pundit accuses Kamala Harris of 'doing blackface' to win presidency
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African
Song by Peter Tosh

Don’t care where you come from
As long as you’re a black man
You’re an African
No mind your nationality
You have got the identity of an African

'Cause if you come from Clarendon
And if you come from Portland
And if you come from Westmoreland
You’re an African

No mind your nationality
You’ve got the identity of an African

'Cause if you come Trinidad
And if you come from Nassau
And if you come from Cuba
You’re an African

No mind your complexion
There is no rejection
You’re an African

'Cause if your plexion
High If your complexion low, low, low
And if your plexion in between
You’re an African

No mind denomination
That is only segregation
You’re an African

Cause if you go to the Catholic
And if you go to the Methodist
And if you go to the Church of Gods
You’re an African

No mind your nationality
You have got the identity of an African

'Cause if you come from Brixton
And if you come from Weesday
And if you come from Wingstead
And if you come from France
…Brooklyn
…Queens
…Manhattan
…Canada
…Miami
…Switzerland
…Germany
…Russia
…Taiwan

mydude , in LGBTQ+ people are coming out even younger than before, but 1 in 5 still hasn't come out at all

Guys, we are losing the class war…

b3an ,
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Troll. Do not feed.

Kushan , in Tommy Robinson stokes far-right riots on social media from outside UK
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I don’t follow Tommy Robinson much for obvious reasons, but I have been watching various right wing telegram groups since they organised a protest riot near me.

What’s weird (or at least unexpected to me) is they don’t seem to like him either, claiming he’s Jewish (which of course they have an issue with) and funded by Israel?

It might well be that this is a particularly extreme right wing group, but I’m still very confused at this point.

Either way, fuck the lot of them.

njm1314 , in MAGA outraged over Green Day's "severed" Trump head that's really just a mask

Has Jack Black tried to cancel them yet?

TrickDacy ,
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Seeing as they didn’t call for actual violence, checks notes they haven’t been in a band together for many years, and the only definition of “cancelling” this would meet is of a trumper’s, I’m going to say “no”.

Linkerbaan OP , in U.S. official: Biden realized Netanyahu lied to him about hostage deal
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dactylotheca ,
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Now that’s a meme I’ve not seen in a long time. A long time.

vanontom ,
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dactylotheca ,
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ayyy ,

Is there anything that this not doesn’t call “center left”? May as well replace it with a sticky note.

dogsnest , in Trump congratulates Putin for Biden's historic prisoner swap
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AllNewTypeFace , in J.D. Vance’s trans law school friend accuses him of using trans kids “as a political ploy”
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Man who made racist statements about his own children to ingratiate himself to the trumpist base also willing to sell entire classes of strangers down the river.

NOT_RICK ,
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What did he say about his kids?

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solsangraal , in U.S. official: Biden realized Netanyahu lied to him about hostage deal

the united states will continue to fellate israel until the end of time, regardless of who’s POTUS. and israel knows that to be the case, regardless of who’s leading israel. the intelligence alone is something the US will never give up. in addition to being really the US’s only reliable tentacle in the middle east

Diva ,
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Linkerbaan OP ,
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Over the course of the Genocide the notion that we really want israel to exist as a strategic ally has started to look extremely wonky to me.

Looking at previous history as well, I have concluded the “strategic partner” narrative is purely an excuse for israeli lobbyists. Such as the best funded lobbyist for israel

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/53baf181-e56c-42fd-a21e-185ae9e855f3.png

Diva ,
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That is absolutely a factor, but there are also absolutely people who view this as an important part of American power projection. While I don’t think that supporting Israel has been making the US stronger in this era, it has historically been a key strategic location due to how close it is to the suez and global oil trade.

It is darkly funny how cheaply American politicians can be bought, meanwhile we shovel endless piles of money to Israel, which it then uses to shore up political support for continuing to send them money and ammunition.

Linkerbaan OP ,
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Egypt controls Suez though. We just overthrew their government and installed Sisi as a dictator to control it. Israel had little to do with that. Same with Iraq. We use Saudi Arabia as a base.

Israel as a strategic partner is a great excuse on the surface because really blurs the line of the true motive. But in reality we now see America supporting israeli actions which are contradictory to our interests in the region (unless we really want WW3). Having a strategic partner requires that partner to obey you, not the other way around

Diva ,
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I’m not gonna start debating you on this, I was referring to the historical reason for the occupation of Palestine, quoting Churchill:

I say that Palestine is all the more important to us in view of what is happening, in view of the ever-growing significance to the British Empire of the Suez Canal; and I do not think £1,000,000 a year […] would be too much for Great Britain to pay for the control and guardianship of this great historic land

There was no AIPAC then, unless you’re suggesting that there was some other lobbying at play.

US strategic planners wanted Israel because it’s an unsinkable aircraft carrier parked right next to the Suez (among other things). That doesn’t mean that it’s actually useful at the end of the day, but that’s absolutely the stated logic behind things.

Linkerbaan OP ,
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I certainly don’t disagree that it is an advantageous piece of land. Which is why it was one of the best OG Hasbara points.

The problem is that we already control Egypt and have military bases over the entire region. Israel wants to be autonomous. We can give israel weapons but we are not allowed to control what they will do with said weapons. Whereas with other countries we just topple their regime if they don’t listen.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/296271a5-5afd-4b9d-a0ac-6343eacfd3c3.png

Then there’s Incidents such as the USS liberty. Israel tries to make America go to war with Egypt by committing a false flag attack on an American ship and blaming it on Egypt Or how israel is currently desperately trying to pull us into a war with Iran. This is not how a having an ally in the region works.

There is no denying that Palestine has great placement geographically but the amount of flak we are currently taking because israel acts like a rabid attack dog while we still provide them weapons “against our will” goes directly against israel being a strategic ally. This only leaves israeli lobbies such as AIPAC controlling our politicians as a real explanation of israel still receiving weapons.

Unless we’re trying to evoke a war with Iran ourselves, but I don’t see that as a possibility.

Diva ,
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There is no denying that Palestine has great placement geographically but the amount of flak we are currently taking because israel acts like a rabid attack dog while we still provide them weapons “against our will” goes directly against israel being a strategic ally.

The ‘lot of flak’ the US is getting is hurting them a lot less than more concrete things like the trade disruptions due to the red sea shipping attacks. The occupation failing to keep a lid on things has absolutely put its immediate strategic value into question, that has not always been the case.

This only leaves israeli lobbies such as AIPAC controlling our politicians as a real explanation of israel still receiving weapons.

I am aware that the US government is completely beholden to financial influence, however I don’t care for the narrative being ‘the real explanation is that israel is controlling our politicians’ that’s really the reductive angle. You can point to the numbers of donations to politicians, but there’s also a tremendous power wielded by the military industries. They are often the sole or anchor employers in cities across the country and any cut to buying weapons gets framed as cutting jobs for everyday Joes. Those weapons then get gifted to people who use them on civilians.

Linkerbaan OP ,
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The ‘lot of flak’ the US is getting is hurting them a lot less than more concrete things like the trade disruptions due to the red sea shipping attacks.

Which also is caused by America not forcing israel to stop their Genocide for some reason…

Of course politicians aren’t solely beholden to israel. There are plenty of other lobby organizations which get what they want because they bribe politicians. Oil lobbies, Agro lobbies, Pharma lobbies etc. Military Industrial lobby of course loves what israel is doing right now.

It’s just that when it comes to israel, the politicians act the way israel wants instead of in a strategically advantageous way for America. There’s not much of a case that can be made for the current government actions other than “Our politicians are bribed by israel”

Past israel did a far better job appealing to politicians to make a case for their existence than current israel though I’ll agree with that. Hasbro game is weak these days.

Diva ,
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Which also is caused by America not forcing israel to stop their Genocide for some reason…

For some Americans, the perception that they’re a settler state fighting off the brown horde is reason enough for common cause.

Linkerbaan OP , (edited )
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And ironically much of the the anti-Arab propaganda also has its roots in israel. (and this article for a deeper dive)

But of course racism is not really a realpolitik objective.

Diva ,
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I could never understand the guys appeal and always found his movies pretty offensive.

it is unlikely that most viewers understood his work as a piece of nuanced, anti-racist satire, considering that Americans see the entire region from the Balkans to India as an amorphous blob called “The Middle East.”

yeah

ProvableGecko ,

Well the US have been busy inventing a back up for decades now.

Who else in the middle east has a sizable population that spans many countries which, in the case of independence, would conveniently destabilize the middle east yet wholely depend on the US for survival, as it would be completely surrounded by sworn enemies, therefore would have to act as a defacto US state in foreign affairs?

Anyway, we are halfway there now and the rest shouldn’t take too long

Diva ,
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I don’t really follow what you’re trying to say. I’m not sure there is a viable backup to Israel as a client state in the region.

SoJB ,

You’ll see liberals and fascists do this often, they try to play the same “leading question” game leftists use but it just falls completely flat since their deranged worldview instantly falls apart under any scrutiny.

Like, literally what are they even talking about? It makes no sense lmfao.

Linkerbaan OP ,
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I’d argue Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Jordan are far easier and more controllable outposts right now.

An “ally” that doesn’t listen and engulfs the region in chaos only seems counterproductive. Reliable is the last word I’d attribute to israel.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/ce23cc3c-5272-4477-9945-961a281fdbfe.png

solsangraal ,

lol and what’s the difference between all those countries and israel? and why would the US send mountains of weapons and cash to israel and much less to the other “allies”? hint: it rhymes with “schmuslims.”

Linkerbaan OP ,
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AIPAC doesn’t rhyme with schmuslims

solsangraal ,

it doesn’t rhyme with “the united states will fellate israel until the end of time” either, but not everything will always make sense

recklessengagement ,
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Tbh we should just switch to Cypruss. Its a stones throw away, and we’ve got great relations. Unless the island thing is an issue…

LovingHippieCat ,

Cyprus is a great idea but it’s ownership is also contested. Turkey and Greece fucking hate that the other claims ownership. Although the former Greek section is now it’s own country, but there’s still a small turkey section. Great idea, still contentious, even if less so.

crystalmerchant ,

Gluck gluck gluck gluck gluck gluck gluck

Cuttlefish1111 ,

I doubt it. Their spy tools have been sold. They won’t be helpful for long. As generations die no one cares. They basically maintain our nukes.

AllNewTypeFace , in Trump says he has 'no choice' but to support electric vehicles because Elon Musk 'endorsed me very strongly'
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Maybe Elon can add an auxiliary engine solely for rolling coal

EnderMB , in Trump says he has 'no choice' but to support electric vehicles because Elon Musk 'endorsed me very strongly'

300m+ citizens, and policy is based on the employer of one man.

mlg , in U.S. official: Biden realized Netanyahu lied to him about hostage deal
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CIA who probably warned him ages ago

kata1yst ,

In diplomacy it’s critical to give your allies enough rope to hang themselves.

nondescripthandle ,

Yeah it’s the rope that’s he’s used to kill 40,000 Palestinians I’m more worried about. If that’s a price someone is willing to pay for political calculus then they’re bad people.

Count042 ,

200,000 according to the Lancet medical journal.

MediaBiasFactChecker Bot , in Smotrich: Might be ‘justified and moral’ to cause 2 million Gazans to die of hunger, but world won’t let us

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