general election debate details cannot be finalized until Democrats formally decide on their nominee
Presidential debates happen between presidential candidates. Democrats don’t have a presidential candidate yet. But they will by the end of the DNC on August 22nd.
Biden was even more than the presidential candidate, he is the sitting president. A presidential debate between a president and a presidential candidate makes perfect sense, no?
Brace yourself for a massive disinformation campaign against Harris as soon as they recover from the initial shock. Don’t buy into any crap you see about her going forward. Eat no for breakfast.
Don’t buy into any crap you see about her going forward. Eat no for breakfast.
This is the exact attitude that led Republicans into being able to believe that Trump is an upright and moral citizen…
No one should write a blank check of virtue for any politician. Valid criticism is important, without it we’re just going to be led around by the nose by those who have access to power.
If we don’t hold liberal politicians to the same standards we utilize for conservatives, then we will end up with the same type of shit bags they have.
There is a biiiig difference in the timing and source of the news. And especially in the short term every new bit of news about her should at least be treated as suspect.
No news should be taken at face value in the modern era, that doesn’t mean we can just tell people to just say no to any criticism about her.
For example… I don’t appreciate her little memo equating protesting a genocide to antisemitism. Is the memo she posted from her personal Twitter account just fake news?
Lol, yes the appropriate response to valid criticism…ignore it.
If you don’t agree with how Israel and America are treating Palestinians, whats the chance anyone is going to change their stance if you don’t even do the bare minimum of criticism?
I’m not telling people to not vote, or to vote for fucking Trump, I’m just saying there are plenty of things we should be doing better, and we should all be voicing that.
Just really really tiresome that the middle east drama is always injected. We know, it’s a horror show.
Now the first and most important thing is preventing don snorleone from taking the White House. Because if you think Biden is bad for the conflict there, I have a bridge I want to sell you.
The problem is there was Pro Hamas stuff at the protest. They have the pictures. Which pretty neatly traps most politicians into having to disavow it because Hamas does horrific shit too. Seeing those pictures, her statement absolutely tracks as correct.
Oh good grief, don’t put words in my mouth. That’s not what I said and you know it. I said don’t buy the crap that we’re about to be flooded with. I never said you can’t criticize her. You can believe and criticize any valid reality-based you want to, but check the facts first.
This is the exact attitude that led Republicans into being able to believe that Trump is an upright and moral citizen…
No, not even close to the same thing.
Maybe you’re too young to remember, but Trump has a very long history of being a massive, racist, piece of shit. He is literally the archetype of nearly every movie and cartoon villain in the 90s (not even kidding, Some More News did a whole video on it, it’s actually insane).
He was notorious for not paying his contractors, and instead telling them to sue him, knowing there was no way they could afford to win a case against him.
He was notorious for blatantly racist housing policies at his properties.
He was notorious for taking out a full page ad in the New York Times basically saying we should still kill the (recently found innocent) Central Park Five regardless of their guilt (guess their skin color).
His first time making national news was when the Justice Department went after him in 1973 for violating the Fair Housing Act.
Black applicants for apartments in his buildings had the letter “C” (for “colored”) added to their applications and were denied based entirely on their race.
For over 50 years he’s demonstrated time and again that he’s a racist piece of shit.
Yes, and conservatives choose not to criticize him for being a shit head. My point is that it is the people’s job to hold their elected officials to a higher standard, and we do that with valid criticism.
I think the meme-ing and taunting are going to cause him significant damage - both his campaign, and his personal self. And I will enjoy watching him decay.
If I knew how much time I had left, I would 100% apply for all the cards and predatory loans I could, them max them out with no intention of repaying a cent.
Oh absolutely. If Trump wins, I’m withdrawing every penny from all my accounts. Not sure what to do after, but I’ll do my part to fuck the financial system, since that’s all they care about.
Donald cannot open his mouth without lying so he probably shouldn’t do it towards a federal agent when it would be a crime. Not that he would ever be prosecuted since we have a multi-tiered “justice” system.
Right there with you, I make an effort to plan trips around those sorts of criteria. I’m from IL, but still have family (barely) across the IN state line. I can easily enough visit without spending a nickel in IN.
More difficult to go other directions sometimes, but as a matter of course I tend to stay north of the Mason-Dixon with precious few exceptions. That doesn’t solve the problem entirely, but eliminates some of the worst offenders.
Nebraska isn’t exactly on my bucket list, or ‘states I must drive through to get to x’ list, so I’ll probably be fine avoiding them, but it becomes more and more difficult to track those lists mentally as time goes on.
Hard to not be like “Oh, this is the sort of electorate you’ve chosen? Fair enough, message received. I’ll go spend my vacation budget literally anywhere else.”
I know I’m reaching but it would be wonderful if they took this as an opportunity to turn the event into a town hall for Harris. Don’t participate, lose your stage.
I will confess that a month ago I said replacing Biden with Kamala would be a mistake. I was so wrong. She is absolutely killing it. She is bringing exactly the right energy and tone this campaign needs to take on Trump. She is not taking any of his shit but doing it with so much class it really does highlight how disgusting Trump and his goons are.
I’m honestly not a big fan of her and would have preferred to see someone more progressive get the nomination, but I honestly had the same feeling as you now that we actually have a chance at defeating Trump.
I was pretty distraught after the announcement, but within a few hours as the wave of support built, I came out of the hole and started feeling positive. So glad that the support fell behind so quickly.
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