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verdantbanana , in Jiaai Zeng Died Weeks After Starting Work at an Oklahoma Marijuana Farm. His Family Wants Answers.
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trim jobs are very hard labor with very little pay plus most farms search you on the way in and out with no access to your vehicle during the day behind usually barbwire setup prison style

AshMan85 , in Ex-Trump adviser Peter Navarro is released from prison and is headed to Milwaukee to address the RNC

Since when is it allowed to leave prison other then court and medical reason. Oh, cause he is white, rich and a traitor

Burstar ,
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He served the sentence.

anon_8675309 , in FBI, DHS warn of possible retaliation for attack on Trump

Retaliate against who???

JakJak98 ,

More like, politically speaking, the bottle has been shaken. Others are far more likely to take action now.

anon_8675309 ,

Well, he does have one ear left.

Got_Bent , in 'Zionist-free zone': Israelis are increasingly unwanted at global tourism sites

Cut it out with this antisemitism bullshit. Nobody cares that you’re Jewish. People care about genocide no matter what invisible sky being you prefer.

VanillaBean ,

So banning innocent people who might even agree with them is totally fair? Just because they’re from Israel or because of their religion?

sunbytes ,

That’s not what they said

Frostbeard ,

They are banned for possible connections to a country and an organization (IDF) that have been confirmed to perform war crimes.

If you willfully target children no matter your skin colour, creed, religion or whatever arbitrary set of parameters you are a criminal.

Israelis are now discovering the price of being associated with war criminals.

VanillaBean ,

Sorry but that’s a load of BS. I guess Americans should be banned everywhere because we are possibly connected to our country whose government has funded a shit ton of war operations? By that logic, almost nobody would be welcome in anybody else’s country.

erev ,
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A lot of Israelis are forced to fight in the IDF. They have mandatory service. A large amount, if not a majority, of Israelis have participated in the occupation and ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people.

evranch ,

This word, forced, means that as individuals they didn’t have a choice. Why punish them rather than the ones giving the orders?

You could claim that they should refuse the orders, and this the responsibility is theirs, but in a country with mandatory service this does not usually play out well for you.

VanillaBean ,

So you penalize people who are “forced” to do something that they may not want to?

notannpc , in Customers are furious with Sticker Mule’s pro-Trump mass SMS blast

I bet this wouldn’t have been half as damaging if the CEO didn’t use the damn mailing list. What a fucking idiot. Just share your awful takes on twitter like a normal person and move on.

Here’s to watching their business implode though.

daltotron , in Biden to call for 5% cap on annual rent increases, as he tries to show plans to tame inflation

So if we can elect like, any old fuck now, can’t we just go even older and elect the corpse of mao or something? cause that’s kinda the only way I see rent, and rent specifically, becoming a non-issue in the near future. This is like one of the main issues which is directly symptomatic of capitalism, and which keeps capitalism as a system directly propped up. I don’t really see any long term solution to it that doesn’t involve a lot of no longer having capitalism. Other capitalist countries still have this problem. It’s only like, china and the former soviet union and apparently barcelona with superblocks which are still gonna be subject to market demands and rates, it’s only those countries which are going to be constructing such an excess of housing that a good amount of it can remain empty, which is also the case here as well but with the caveat that we still have massive amounts of homelessness and the empty housing is basically just to increase demand on top of straight up not having enough housing even were we to construct mass housing projects.

I dunno, this is a pretty good encapsulation of why we are specifically incredibly fucked and how this incrementalism isn’t going to work at all to address our current issues. We’re cooked, lads. Get the titanic band to start playing the song or whatever.

interdimensionalmeme ,

Yes in a marginalist framework (the supply and demand people) the solution is to increase the housing supply to a permanent slight excess. Preferably in a way that is least damaging to the economy.

However the old commie block approach created a consecrated symbol for the forces of capital to attack, and ultimately dynamite.

The problem is the rentier class has the most resources to throw against this and they still can find other ways to rescarcify housing unless forced building programs are big enough to over power them.

daltotron ,

The problem is the rentier class has the most resources to throw against this and they still can find other ways to rescarcify housing unless forced building programs are big enough to over power them.

Yeah, we probably just need to get rid of the rentier class. I don’t like them very much, I think they might be bad.

Maggoty ,

We had public housing projects in the 60’s but we poison pilled them. So we don’t need to go all the way to Mao. It is possible to have the government build housing and do a rent to own program that rolls it’s funding to keep making more housing. (As you pay your monthly rent it goes back into the building fund.)

daltotron ,

I mean yeah, but I’m not sure we won’t just poison pill them again as soon as the metronome swings back around and keeps us from having anything nice.

Maggoty ,

You could use that argument with any government function or public good though. Why do anything if the GOP could poison pill it?

daltotron ,

I mean I would just get rid of the GOP if that were a viable option. and probably also the political system in which we live, as a whole.

I do think more realistically though the only point I’m making is that it’s a kind of insanity to do the same thing over and over again and expect a different outcome, without understanding why they’re able to poison pill anything and everything and roll back any advancements as soon as they feel that the public pressure has let up enough. There’s a deeper issue there beyond just the lack of public housing, an issue that causes that lack of public housing in the first place, and simply building massive amounts of public housing, even if we were able to do that, which would be quite a feat, and something I would be happy about, even that would be a temporary solution, as we’ve seen.

Maggoty ,

I absolutely agree but until we get the grassroots to agree then anything like a constitutional convention is just asking for a dictator.

padge ,

Singapore has a good social housing system as far as I know but the government has to be pretty authoritarian in order to pull it off

daltotron ,

but the government has to be pretty authoritarian in order to pull it off

I dunno if that’s a super necessary element, really. I think they could probably get off better, actually, if they had a more lenient prison system, and, say, didn’t execute people for minor weed possession or like, being gay. But then I also think their economy relies on a large portion of oppressed migrant labor, if I remember right? I dunno, somebody fact check me on that

Zyansheep ,

There actually is a solution that doesn’t involve destroying capitalism: mixed-use zoning, tax on the unimproved value of land, and small UBI.

daltotron ,

yeah georgism is crap though

Zyansheep ,

wdym?

daltotron ,

I mean I’m generally skeptical of like “this one weird 19th century ideology can solve all our problems” schtick, right, and I’m also skeptical of the mythical single tax systems, as a kind of simplified and idealistic compromise between your libertarians, your anarchists, and your more standard socialists and communists.

If you were to ask me in more detail, I would basically say that I think it’s a compromise solution for an extremely narrow set of problems that too often gets extrapolated into encompassing the entirety of a political system. I think that it functions well enough as an ideology within a specific set of constraints and goals, but if you seek to extrapolate it solve like, every political problem, as georgists generally tend to do, then it kind of falls apart, and doesn’t tend to be broad enough.

It’s basically just a less generalized version of marxism, to me, where land is equivalent in the system to capital, and rent-seeking behavior is only really banned from interference with whatever resources are seen as natural, which is primarily land. I dunno. I think as I slowly go more insane and become more cranky, I find myself increasingly wanting a horrible authoritarian state that just does exactly what I want, because everything I like is awesome, and everything everyone else thinks is bad and evil or whatever.

Zyansheep ,

I think as I slowly go more insane and become more cranky, I find myself increasingly wanting a horrible authoritarian state that just does exactly what I want, because everything I like is awesome, and everything everyone else thinks is bad and evil or whatever.

Mood 😅

I get your skepticism, but I do think there is some value in specific ideologies like Georgism, namely that you can actually try them out slowly and reverse course if needed. I’m mostly against a wide scale federal land value tax at a high percentage off the bat, but I do think its probably worth trying it out locally or at a low percentage to see what happens.

Treczoks , in Customers are furious with Sticker Mule’s pro-Trump mass SMS blast

“The more people realize that kind-hearted, compassionate people support Trump, the sooner the hate will end.”

Kind-hearted? Compassionate? Maybe two or three in the US that have been totally off the grid fro the last eight years or so.

Ragnarok314159 ,

No one who votes for Trump is kind. No one who votes for Trump is patriotic. No one who votes for Trump is pro-military/veterans.

No one who votes for Trump is worth a shit.

rimmedalpha , in Jack Black axes tour over bandmate's Trump comment

Since when has Jack Black have a problem with political violence? Brought to you by City Hall

FlyingSquid , in Trump Media Made a Deal That Could Secure a Major Financial Windfall for the GOP Candidate.
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Forever failing upward.

FlyingSquid , in UnitedHealth Reports $7.9 Billion in Q2 Profits After Protesters Arrested.
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Always nice to hear about my insurance company being horrible.

LostWanderer , in JD Vance once wrote that he 'convinced myself that I was gay' when he was a kid

Eh?? The unenlightened bigots are still going on about how being gay is a choice? That somehow choosing to be miserable and conform to a heteronormative would make the gay go away?! Only to later either break free of the brainwashing which led to conforming to an obvious lie of being straight or simply taking a one way trip out of this world. Stupid, fascist Republicans don’t have much to offer but ruin and one big white world, drained of all its color. Hopefully, this November, we trounce these entitled fascists.

In my own personal experience as a child, I simply knew that I was different. I didn’t realize until the hormones activated how different I was! Then again, I was able to reflect on that with something called ‘reading about the experiences of others and trying to find points in common’. JD Vance likely had nothing but bigoted talking points screamed into his ears and he gave in.

pyre ,

i still don’t get why any argument on either side is revolving around whether it’s a choice or not. like, ok, discriminating based on immutable qualities is obviously bad and that’s why people are making that point but the end result is this here: people just deny it’s immutable.

the actual argument in my opinion is even if it were a choice so fucking what? just because something is a choice doesn’t make it suddenly ok to take rights away from people who have that choice. otherwise i would have some fantastic ideas about what should be done with republicans; it is a choice to be republican after all.

LostWanderer ,

Yeah, at the end of the day, I strongly feel being certain things is simply an immutable part of being a person. Nobody chooses to be straight, gay, bi, pan, or anything else related to attraction. There is a choice to ignore or act upon those feelings, often people are put in terrible situations as a result.

I do agree with your argument though, as human rights so remain intact regardless of choice or no choice! We all live in a world we can’t yet escape and need some semblance of social contract to survive. I have a lot of fun ideas for what to do with Republicans as well; as it is a choice they’ve made to be bigoted, shortsighted fascists. Compulsory Drag Show attendance, they’re invited to a Library bit; they are going to get read to filth and hate every moment of self-awareness which will be inflicted upon them. Silly, but that’s the tip of the iceberg!

nifty ,
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Because the conservative logic is to punish for being different. They need to assign personal responsibility for someone else having sex and you being born the way you are

Speculater ,
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My problem with the core of the argument is that it wouldn’t matter if it were a choice or not. I honestly can’t find men attractive as a straight man so if someone else tells me homosexuality is a choice, I just assume they’re actively making that choice one way or another.

EatATaco ,

I’m a pretty good looking guy, and not being afraid of gay people, with plenty of exposure, I’ve had a few come on to me. I’ve even had one tell me he knows I’m straight and that the only thing he wants is to suck my dick and he would make it fantastic. I figure that with having the hardware and practice, they probably know a good deal about physically pleasing a man, so I’ve seriously considered it.

But like you, I can’t get over the fact that I am just not attracted to men. Even when very drunk. Literally struck out with multiple women rather than taking a sure blowjob.

If anyone would have made that choice, being a horny and open man desperate for a blowjob with opportunity, I’d be a prime candidate. And I couldn’t even choose to be bi.

eran_morad , in Biden Says He’d Consider Dropping Out if a ‘Medical Condition’ Emerged

Come on, Joe. You know what’s right and you will go down in history as a gotdamn hero.

njm1314 , in Jack Black axes tour over bandmate's Trump comment

When push comes to shove Jack Black folds. Sad to see.

Captainvaqina , in Inside Ziklag, the Secret Organization of Wealthy Christians Trying to Sway the Election and Change the Country

So is this the shadowy deep state I keep hearing “conservatives” bleating about?

Varyk , in US court overturns Alaska oil lease sale in a win for environmentalists

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