Perhaps it’s time for the US air force to do some kind of intelligence review on its generals. You know, perhaps they should make sure that they have some.
So how can we continue to pretend we have rights when these “rights” can be taken away from us at any time, on the whim of an evil police officer or judge or DA, and we are turned into chattel slaves when they do? We don’t seriously have rights if we actually can be legally turned into chattel slaves at any time for any reason.
Careful. You’re edging into the “small government” territory that sounds great but really means less food safety and building inspection and similar services, and more stuff taken private. It’s not what we want for sure.
It’s better than you and me paying for them, as taxpayers. If they’re in prison, the least they can do is work some kind of job to repay their debt to society, especially if they’re in prison for violent crimes.
You mistake my point, these people lately aren’t the toughened criminals that it effects. It’s people actually trying to change and stay out of jail/prison who catch lifelong debt and a reduced ability to repay that debt thus incentivizing returning to crime.
It’s a stupid fucking idea and their stay there is repaying the debt to society if you want them to make the state money then fucking garnish. People who endorse the prison system either haven’t looked into it or just aren’t willing to see reality.
Read the article. They’re paying for bottled water. They have access to regular tap water, but some people are saying the tap water in these very old prisons isn’t fit for drinking.
I don’t think the article specifically says, but most prisons in the U.S. are privately owned. I can only imagine that’s more the case in Texas than it is the nation as a whole.
There’s an excessive perception that the US prison system is privately run. As terrible as the concept is, it is not as widespread as people think… however the US prison population is gigantic, so it still isn’t very small.
“While the United States represents about 4.2 percent of the world’s population, it houses around 20 percent of the world’s prisoners.”
Ok so that’s where your wrong. We have a unique and very complex and balanced first world prison system.
You see in America we use public prisons in a unique way. They are a business model. In a public prison the Administration uses service providers to provide things like Telecom for friends and family, JMS(Jail Management System) for managing the facility and its inmates, Commissary for supplying inmates with products, and many other services. In addition as other people have stated several facilities charge rent this is almost universally a county correctional facilities thing where inmates tend to be people awaiting trial, awaiting sentencing, on temporary hold, or inmate serving less than a year. There are some county mega facilities though now that are longer term and also charge rent. Now lets explore how this ends up working. A telecom service such as GTL(Global Tel Link which is the largest provider in the US) will charge friends and family up to 30 dollars (highly dependent on the facility and the agreement with the administration and the state) to setup an account with all fees and make a 15 minute call. 90+% of that goes to whats called a commission. This commission is paid back to the facility for use of the service. If that sounds like a bribe to you YOUR WRONG you see this is perfectly legal in most states and not a bribe of a public official at all!(very recent legislation has change this in some states (3) but it is still very legal in most states). There are many many ways to bribe officials especially sheriffs but this is the most overt one. Remember its not the inmate who generally pays this as they have no real means of income though some opputunities (we will get to that) their friend and family deposit it into their account and generally that account is tied in with their commissary account and that’s generally tied in to the JMS. The commissary business model works identically to the telecom model and these companies tend to offer a JMS essentially for free for obvious reasons. Many inmate especially in long term facilities just tell friends and family to not contact them in lieu of going broke. Thus disconnecting them from their friends and family completely which has a heavy impact on recidivism. Now the facility may have work opportunities as well and isn’t it ever so convenient that the amount you can get paid from those work opportunities happens to be JUST about as much as the facilities housing fee. Funny thing to if you don’t pay the housing fee while your in the facility the facility will take it out of you commissary account. So you either work as a slave or they take you ability to in the case of a female facility critically necessary health products(though most inmates resort to toilet paper). You see how wrong your were? This is a complex and very well thought out eldritch horror. The machinations of which truly boggle the mind. This isn’t even the horrid private prison. This is a publicly funded facility. I could share the endless horrors of the American prison system but its a special hell of which I wish to open no ones eyes to fully.
I am aware. In America its a pretty taboo subject and its difficult to get the public to even pay attention to this issue. It would be nice to have systems in place that discourage recidivism but for many in the industry encouraging it is better for business. The only people that need to put on a face are sheriffs during election season.
I feel like third world prisons just aren’t as elegant in their distribution of human suffering. Its a dated an inefficient system, its unstainable in its ability to really bring horror to scale. The Venezuelan prison population only accounts for .002 percent of the population or around 67,000 inmates. In the US the prison population accounts for .005 percent of the total population or 1.8 million and ever rising. The US accounts for a quarter of all inmates in the world though we represent only 5% of the worlds population. We do human suffering by the numbers. We’ve chosen quantity of quality. In a venezuelan prison sure you might be more likely to get chopped up by a cartel and the system is overpopulated as hell (157% over capacity). But in america we will profit off your misery and we have room for everyone! Sure we have dismemberments to here and there, we have slave farms, and even some chain gangs. But the beauty of the America approach to inmate facilities is its sustainable and scalable model that allows it to grow endlessly and distribute human suffering at scales never before conceived of. We are achieving the tin pot dictators “American Dream”.
Bro people in venezuelan prisons would kill (I mean, again) to be in USA prisons
Complains about human rights violations? Yeah try military police prison guards raping your wife during a visit while you watch, making you eat direct shit from the toilets it in your food and forcing electric volts through your balls.
Anyone from s REAL third world country would kill to be in a US prison
Not agreeing with you there, even if I may actually agree with you. I’m just saying it’s no time to compare ourselves and try to win worst place when there are so many better models to work toward.
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Commenting my $0.02 How fucking bullshit is this. I looked into the report and it’s a report from Stanford. It’s the same loli crap you see on 4chan and even twitter sometimes.
Who made the study? It’s right there in the article and associated links. David Thiel is one of the 2 authors. He works at Stanford and before that worked at Facebook. He’s a security and safety guy. He seems to know what he’s talking about going by his publications and history.
It’s not bullshit that the CSAM content is there. It’s bullshit to imply that this is a unique problem for Mastodon. Every social media platform is rife with child-abuse material.
There was some theorycrafting from some of the react devs on twitter that they were striking mastodon from twitter on purpose to eliminate people becoming aware of it.
The report is here. There are some good points, and it’s definitely not an obvious smear-job, but it’s definitely not perfect. And it is likely to be misused by less-responsible authors who are interested in smearing Mastodon or other services not operated by major tech companies.
In the course of the investigation, researchers found that despite the availability of image hashes to identify and remove known CSAM, Twitter experienced an apparent regression in its mitigation of the problem. Using PhotoDNA, a common detection system for identified instances of known CSAM, matches were identified on public profiles, bypassing safeguards that should have been in place to prevent the spread of such content. This gap was disclosed to Twitter’s Trust & Safety team which responded to address the issue. However, the failure highlights the need for platforms to prioritize user safety and the importance of collaborative research efforts to mitigate and proactively counter online child abuse and exploitation.
That being said, people who code for the Fediverse should see this report and pay particular attention to things like
Current tools for addressing child sexual exploitation and abuse online—such as PhotoDNA and mechanisms for detecting abusive accounts or recidivism—were developed for centrally managed services and must be adapted for the unique architecture of the Fediverse and similar decentralized social media projects.
I honestly don’t know crap about coding, but this seems like a very solvable problem and something I’d very much like for the people who do to engage with. I would absolutely donate some money to support a project like this.
I was informed that, in the last few years, NCMEC has added additional solutions beyond PhotoDNA. This includes Google’s CSAI and Facebook’s open-source video/image matching tools.
That’s good, but it is still just mind blowing to me that we let a bunch of private for profit companies take the lead on this. This is the sort of thing the FBI ought to be all over developing and maintaining and handing out to everyone if they weren’t a bunch of stupid assholes busy harassing environmentalists and police brutality protesters.
After a bit of reading, another option may simply be to include a “report” button that generates a hash of the image and federates the list. That being said, their may be a similarity algorithm under the hood of PhotoDNA that works better. Hard to say since it’s all proprietary and pay-for-membership. Prices aren’t even listed publicly unless you use a cloud API.
I actually just saw that Dansup is working on adding optional opt-in support for PhotoDNA in pixelfed if an instance admin adds a PhotoDNA API key, I wonder if that was spurred on by this report. Hopefully Mastodon also looks into adding support.
Nice, yeah hopefully this feature or something that accomplishes the same spreads* throughout the Fediverse quickly
*Like, it would be really cool if there was a way to fight child porn that didn’t involve relying on a for profit company, but chipping away at our screwed up economic system is a lower priority than stopping child abuse
If I behaved as an asshole I was corrected and if i didn’t listen I got a slap. I don’t think I was maltreated. It was dad’s answer for my actions in that moment. And it happened rarely. Every time it happened I learned the lesson. :D
And no you didn’t turn out fine if you think this way. I know, I got slapped as a kid.
Parents obviously have a role to play in respect and education, but it’s very limited when the whole environnement your growing up in is against you (poverty, limited opportunities, crime, police brutality, etc.).
If your first and only answer to correcting bad behavior is violence, then how does a child learn to use anything but violence to solve their own problems? And if you violently attack your child for the smallest infractions, how do they learn that some things like rape, murder, war, etc., are more wrong than a simple lie. And what incentive do they have to tell the truth about anything they do wrong so they can learn from it, when they’re going to get beaten no matter what. Better to risk lying for a chance at not getting beaten than to tell your parents you made a mistake and get beaten for sure.
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