The ambulance apparently chose not to pass on the right in the lanes that were moving because of policy or something like that. I know where I live stopping where you are at is what you are supposed to do, so this one really seem slide it might be misleading anti self driving sensationalism.
It still has a long way to go, but stopping for emergency vehicles really sounds like it was working as designed to follow the laws.
Passing on the right drastically increases the likelihood of accidents for almost everyone involved. The (effective) blind spot on the left side of a vehicle versus the right side is tiny.
And while I won’t rule out different regions having different laws: To my knowledge, basically every single variation is “Pull off to the right side of the road unless the ambulance is right behind you and trying to turn right”. Just stopping where you are is a good way to force the emergency vehicle to slalom through traffic and increases the likelihood of degraded care (or even injury) in the back.
Which adds on to why an ambulance should generally not try to pass on the right. If a vehicle is stopped right in front of you, something is wrong. That means they are likely to open a door, suddenly accelerate and try to move over, etc. Its a decision, but it is one that adds delays. And even a slight delay can be fatal if you are at the point where you actually need an ambulance.
A human increases the odds of an accident drastically. Especially when they suddenly “come out of nowhere” while someone passing legally is trying to shift back right.
In this case? Someone is already clearly ignoring the rules of the road (if not the law). There is no guarantee they don’t end up sideswiping the ambulance, opening their door randomly, etc. Which results in more injuries… likely including the paramedics themselves.
Don’t they also send a signal of some kind, like a strobe at a particular frequency among their lights, that can be detected by (some) traffic lights to override them and turn them green? Maybe driverless cars should be able to percieve and react to this?
“Well, another lanes was moving so it could have gone around, also, if the patient had just taken an med flight helicopter this wouldn’t have happened.”
Like so what another lane is moving. Would the ambo have to back up and do a K turn to get around the glitched car?
Be interesting to see exactly what the traffic patterns looked like. There’s the set of driving regulations that generally say we should make way for emergency vehicles, but not if it requires ignoring another regulation. For example, if you’re stopped at a red light and an emergency vehicle approaches from behind, law says you wait for the light to turn green, then proceed when safe. Real drivers will run that light, hop a curb, make an illegal u-turn, etc. to make space, and nobodies going to get ticket for that, but it they are technically still violations.
I also think the comparison shouldn’t necessarily be against a typical driver, but a novice one, who doesn’t always respond correctly to an uncommon situation.
If ambulances were able and allowed to push other vehicles out of the way, then there would be a chance that Americans would leave a corridor in traffic jams to keep from getting shoved aside.
Definitely. Now that I think about it, a separate vehicle to do the shoving would save the patient from getting bumped around.
But then, there would need to be more ambulances following along to pick up people who get injured because all the imaginary cars getting shoved out of the way are occupied.
People get out of the way for emergency vehicles where I’m from. I’ve seen what you’re describing in NYC and I don’t really like being grouped with them.
I think the person above is referring to the law in Germany (and maybe other EU countries?) where if traffic slows to a stop on a highway everyone pulls to the side (right lane to the right, left lane to the left) to leave a corridor down the center just in case an emergency vehicle comes. It’s called Rettungsgasse.
This topic has come up at work several times. What’s funny is each time it does everyone gets excited about the possibility of it happening to them on a critical call.
Our ambulances are built on 4x4 capable F-350 chassis and we’re all union firefighters/medics. It feels like the 21st century version of “car blocking a hydrant”.
We have it here as well but it isn’t a free for all. The President receives a list of proposed pardons that have to be vetted one by one by a legal team. Certain offenses are not eligible and only sentences below a given number of years may be pardoned.
It’s not like the man can hand out pardons on a whim.
Nobody knows, including the president. Trump thought he could pardon himself. There aren’t any restrictions other than it must be a crime with federal jurisdiction, the only jurisdiction over which the president has direct power. He can even pardon people in advance.
Generally, the pardon power is meant to be a check on the legislative and judicial branch, and thus it is designed to be this powerful.
Obama used his pardon power to free individuals who were nonviolent drug offenders who got sentenced to years often for simple possession. This doesn’t mean that he didn’t use a slew of lawyers to find these cases. He very much did. But he could, literally, go through a roster of inmates and just pick random people to pardon.
Trump, if reelected, will likely pardon himself and it will need to go through the courts to see if that’s even feasible. Given the current nature of our highest court, it likely will be found constitutional.
Given the current nature of our highest court, it likely will be found constitutional.
Pretty much. From the strict text reading there is nothing about it.
and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.
Justice Thompson will get a new boat from a GOP aligned group so at least so it isn’t all bad. Sure it is travesty of the justice and breaks the entire concept of no one being above or below the law but when has that stopped the Robert’s court before?
You need a balance. You can’t have a government that can’t respond/change and you can’t have a government where whomever won the last election is now dictator whose whim is law.
A lot of this stuff was ripe for abuse since the beginning but it was only rarely abused so everyone just left it. Kinda how Vietnam war wasnt declared but went on for like a decade. The potential for that abuse of power was there since the founding days but wasn’t abused until much later.
As I said the states seem like they are moving away from it being an unchecked power so maybe one day there will be a constitutional amendment.
sometimes when these systems are designed, the designers, simply didnt contemplate the crazy shit people will try that are within the systems legal bounds. for example no-one would have ever thought a prime minister would secretly swear himself into multiple minister portfolios even behind his own cabinets back, but thats exactly what the former PM of australia did (and now calls into question the things he signed off on in secret at the time).
It is 100% the fault of educators. Actual mathematicians have derided the abysmal state of math education for literal decades. But they don’t get to decide how we “educate” children. US educators unabashedly focus exclusively on testing for funding. They don’t give a rats ass if you know the simplest amount of trivial math—they do really really care if you pass a bizarrely arbitrary arithmetic test though. Why do think those mini-viral bullshit PEMDAS/BEMDAS memes track on Reddit. It’s deranged math students that think an order of operations is actually used in real math (real shock: they aren’t, mathematics doesn’t have an order of operations).
I heard from someone who went on another forum. He said it was a blast.
It was super nerdy but legitimately inspirational. We all got dice! Brennan Lee Mulligan DM’d an encounter for hundreds at people at the same time! We slew the five-headed AMPTP dragon! A good time for all.
How do we make steel without coke? Is there a less polluting plant that is able to perform this task, or are we outsourcing the pollution to developing countries?
Good question, so I googled that. I found a story from 2020 about a company in Sweden that had developed a process for making fossil fuel-free steel. A followup story from 2021 said they had just completed their first batch and that they've found a customer in Volvo.
They say their video evidence shows that the ambulance didn’t egress when it could have, but they won’t release the video publicly. I hope we get better self driving cars in the future, but not like this.
Google has had AI driving cars since roughly 2009.
This current batch of AI is only better in that it has data sets that are roughly 1000 to 10k times bigger, otherwise it's the same chatbot AI we've had for the last 15 years.
You sir or madam, are the one who has failed and needs to try again.
Back on the R site I caught a ban once for saying I think it’s always a good idea to punch Nazis, like grandpa, LT Aldo Raine, and all my DS’ taught me.
I still think it’s a grand idea, spez can lick my whole asshole, and fuck off nazi punks
We have plenty of airlift capacity not being used in the sandbox anymore. Offer a month long program where everyone who wants to leave gets relocated then…
What?! You mean to tell me Elon Musk doesn’t value human lives at all? Are you suggesting he accepts payments by governments to hand over user data that gets innocent people tortured to death? Are you saying he’s some kind of vile, sub-human conservative piece of shit?! Say it ain’t so!
I know we all love to shit on Elon, but read the article:
Lawyers for Al-Sadhan updated their claim last week to include new allegations about how Twitter, under the leadership of then-chief executive Jack Dorsey, willfully ignored or had knowledge of the Saudi government’s campaign to ferret out critics
This looks to have taken place when Jack was still in charge there. Not that Elon hasn’t spent every waking hour since the buyout proving himself to be terrible, but it’s useful to remember that just because the current guy is really bad doesn’t retroactively make the guy before him good.
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