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Got_Bent , in Oregon lifts ban on self-serve gas, leaving N.J. as the only state prohibiting it

I can’t see myself headed back to Oregon any time soon, but good. It was so frustrating trying to get gas behind a line of twenty five cars being “served” by a single slack jawed yokel taking smoke breaks between each car and God help you if you needed gas at night when everybody was closed.

New Jersey gas attendants can be surly, but my experiences driving there at least moved the cars through getting gas efficiently.

HeyJoe ,

As someone from NJ I agree 100% with surly. Also you can get someone weird or the guy who just wants to talk the entire time. I really do hope this changes one day.

surewhynotlem ,

Or the guy who tries to wash your windows then asks for a tip. I’m still annoyed at that, and it was at least 15 years ago.

drzoidberg ,
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Having lived in NJ most of my life, and recently driving almost cross country to FL, the only benefits of living in FL is that there are like never any lines waiting for gas, and I don’t have to wait for a guy to come out. I just pull up, fill up, and GTFO.

DAMunzy ,

Moved from Florida to New Jersey. You can keep Florida and I’ll keep my gas attendants! 😉

drzoidberg ,
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I fucking hate this state. I’ve been here for 9 months, and hate every part of it. The water is fucking disgusting, the heat is absurd, the traffic is ridiculous, the roads are shit, the beaches are shit, the people are… mentally handicapped is the nicest way to put it, the food is meh at best unless you want Cuban or something fried. There are absolutely no cultural things, like museums or anything that’s not hick crap. Went to a ship museum in Tampa with my kids, and it was a rusted out hulk of a boat.

Enjoy the cultural overload of the excess of museums, including the Nimitz, the amazing and huge variety of food, the cooler weather, really good pizza, and amazing pizza if you get closer to NYC, water that doesn’t smell like sewage until it’s ran for a minute or 2, water that doesn’t destroy your pots pans, and basically rust everything, you lucky bastard.

Oh yeah, and go fruit picking other than oranges, because you can just hit up dozens and dozens of orchards for all kinds of fruit picking, without sweating your balls off, pretty much any time of year.

Also, it’s called pork roll. Anyone that tells you it’s Taylor Ham is a monster, because Taylor Ham is the company that makes pork roll. Pork Roll with egg and cheese is a cure-all. Hangover, depression, snacky, quick breakfast, hungry, and dying? Yeah pork roll with egg and cheese on a roll will solve all your problems. If you have extra problems, add bacon and double meat. Pork roll with bacon, egg, and cheese on a hard roll will cure all your problems.

elbowdrop , in Who ‘banned’ what? Florida schools grapple with fallout from AP psychology dispute

Can someone explain to me how this is legal? I literally have no idea how in America the government is allowed to take away our rights and freedoms.

Khanzarate ,

The constitution was written like the federal government was more the EU than a single country. States have always been able to take away rights that aren’t specifically in the constitution, like education.

It’s a flaw, because states are not separate countries anymore, and it’s a flaw that’s being exploited hard, but preventing republicans from using that flaw would require branches of government that weren’t corrupt.

MaxVerstappen ,

Considering the geographic, economic, and cultural differences among the states, I prefer the strong state argument. You think giving more power to the Federal government is good because you assume those in power will align with your ideals. What happens when you assume wrong and someone like DeSantis has the keys to the White House?

Khanzarate ,

I’m more in the camp of we half-assed it. Strong state? Cool, let’s downgrade the federal government to “economic block” instead of “republic”. Strong federal? Great, why are we letting 50 mini-governments screw over our citizens?

Having both lets bad players point at others and declare it’s their fault.

I do think strong federal government is gonna be inevitable, because they won’t give back power they have, but I’m not cheering it on.

Cheers ,

The writers of the Constitution never expected wealth and corruption like we have today… So they didn’t explicitly plan against it, which Republicans use as a right to do anything…

Madison420 ,

They absolutely did, they were the wealthy class and wrote the Constitution to benefit them more heavily then anyone else. What you’re seeing is that compounded by time and leftward progression. The right freaking the fuck out is because they see if they don’t correct back to 1860 they’re going to be irrelevant grumpy old men screaming at the sky for being closer then in their youth.

fer0n , in Oregon lifts ban on self-serve gas, leaving N.J. as the only state prohibiting it

That must’ve been one of the most useless regulations. Is that just about jobs? I can’t really imagine it being a security risk issue or any other reason

Sterile_Technique ,
@Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, jobs. And yeah, it was fucking stupid. Imagine outlawing opening the front door to any business, so that every business would have to hire greeters to generate jobs. Same same.

It’s just welfare, but in its cruelest possible form. If we’re going to require someone to piss 8 hours of their day away contributing nothing to society (worse than nothing in practice… gassing up in Oregon took FOREVER cuz you’d be stuck waiting for an attendant to serve a backup of 15 cars) just so that person can collect a pay check… why not just give them the pay check with no strings attached? Then they can use that time to improve themselves, or at the very least, not spend their waking hours inhaling gasoline fumes and ruining their knees and such.

Protect people, not jobs. Robots and AI are replacing most of us soon anyway: mandating busywork is NOT the solution to getting food on everyone’s table.

MajorHavoc ,

So true. And as a bonus, a person receiving a universal basic income can also contribute by getting a useful job, even if just for a few hours a week.

I would rather see someone doing art part time hours than having them make gas lines worse for full time.

FuglyDuck , in Trump boasts at Alabama fundraiser that he needs ‘one more indictment to close out this election’
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that’s because he didn’t quite grift enough to cover his legal fees from the last one.

Kbobabob , in Shots again fired at site of Parkland school massacre in reenactment after lawmakers visit

TLDR:

The reenactment is part of a lawsuit by the victims’ families and the wounded that accuses the Broward County deputy assigned to the school, Scot Peterson, of failing in his duty to protect them and their loved ones. Peterson, who was acquitted at a criminal trial in June, has said that because of echoes he could not pinpoint the shooter’s location.

David Brill, the attorney overseeing the reenactment on behalf of the families, did not return a call from The Associated Press seeking comment Friday. He told the South Florida Sun-Sentinel that 49 rounds were fired Friday and that the test showed Peterson would have heard the shots and known their location.

seiryth , in Ocean heat record broken, with grim implications for the planet

Just remember to recycle kids.

Corporations did this. Meanwhile the guilt goes onto the regular Joe.

Creamatine , in Oregon lifts ban on self-serve gas, leaving N.J. as the only state prohibiting it

Don’t give in! I’ve been in NJ my whole life. I’m not ready for this

AngryDemonoid ,

I’d like the option for days where i’m in a rush, but definitely don’t want it to be the norm.

FlyingSquid ,
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When I was a kid, gas stations in Indiana had “self-serve” and “full-serve” (they pump it for you) options. I’m not sure why they stopped. Probably to save money by hiring less people.

coffeekomrade ,
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Or, hear me out, having someone else pump your gas for you in the modern age is fucking wild

FlyingSquid ,
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I hate pumping my own gas. It’s dirty, it smells, the machine is always different in every company, so you have to get used to a new thing if you go to some place you don’t usually go to, and if the weather is bad, you have to stand out in the cold and wind. I’d absolutely pay a premium not to do that. Maybe not 100% of the time, but often.

fer0n ,

That doesn’t keep gas stations from offering it, does it? It’s just not mandated anymore

FlyingSquid ,
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No, it doesn’t. But they don’t offer it, which was my point.

Falmarri ,
@Falmarri@lemmy.world avatar

They don’t offer because no one wants it

afraid_of_zombies ,

Makes sense. That is why women clothing all has nice pockets.

coffeekomrade ,
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There’s no demand for it, why offer something the majority of people do not want or care for?

NoPantiesAllowed ,

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a bigger first world problem.

FlyingSquid ,
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I never said it was a problem.

Mdotaut801 ,

Everyone in this thread is complaining about other people’s job for them like they actually care. It’s just a job for someone. Sure, it’s a stupid law but someone is being paid to do it, it isn’t slavery and you never said it was a first world problem. People are so fucking sensitive but pretend to care about others so they can make a post to get upvotes.

dragonflyteaparty ,

Or some of us actually have empathy for others working a shitty job. Could just be hard some people to imagine.

coffeekomrade ,
@coffeekomrade@lemmy.ml avatar

Gas pumps are pretty standardized, I’ve traveled all over the country and not once have I looked at a gas pump and been like “how the fuck do I use this?”, that sounds like a personal problem.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

It’s the payment part that’s confusing. Because each pump does it differently. It’s not the dispensing gas part.

SheeEttin ,

Either you put the card in the slot or tap it on the reader. I’ve never seen any pump do it differently. And they all have prompts on the screen that walk you through it if you’re confused.

If you really can’t handle it, you can go in and ask for 10 gallons on pump 3 or whatever.

coffeekomrade ,
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Yeah I’ve ne

coffeekomrade ,
@coffeekomrade@lemmy.ml avatar

Yeah, i’ve never been confused by that either.

afraid_of_zombies ,

A hess gas station I was at a few years ago put regular in the middle instead of on the left. Started pumping before I noticed. Also, as I totally believe you about driving all over the country, you should know that octane levels vary a bit in places like Wyoming.

CmdrShepard ,

Pumps now also include ads as you pump your gas too. Now we’ll be able to stand in the rain listening to ads while we pay the same price to pump our own gas and then get our credit card skimmed because nobody is around to watch the pumps at night.

AngryDemonoid ,

But why? What makes it different than any other service job? I pumped gas in NJ for several years, and it was a decent job all things considered.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA ,
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That sounds fair, but be aware that full service stations are probably going to disappear there within ten years because of the change.

minorsecond ,

Maybe not completely. There was one near the really wealthy area in Fort Worth, Texas when I lived there.

There as in Fort Worth. I am not obscenely wealthy lol. This was near where the Bass family lives, if you’re familiar.

MicroWave OP ,
@MicroWave@lemmy.world avatar

I’m curious, do you have to tip the gas attendant?

fer0n ,

When I was in Oregon, I saw them being tipped.

MxGonnaGiveItToYa ,
@MxGonnaGiveItToYa@lemmygrad.ml avatar

They don’t really tip when I was in Jersey

Fingerblaster007 ,

Lol hell no you don’t

CmdrShepard ,

No

Apeman42 ,
@Apeman42@lemmy.world avatar

When I did the job in OR about 10 years ago, it wasn’t expected. More of a “oh hey here’s a dollar for washing my windshield while it pumped” or “$48.60? Here’s a 50, keep the change”, if anything.

Cornpop ,

Why would you want that bullshit?

Fingerblaster007 ,

Why do I want to get out my car and do that bullshit. Let someone else do it

Vonkilington ,

Because it’s faster and it’s really easy.

Fingerblaster007 ,

Sure it’s easy. And it’s fast either way. Let the other person do it. I’ll stay in my car

afraid_of_zombies ,

Is it faster? What studies did you do to conclude that?

Vonkilington ,

Do I need a scientific study to know that me getting out of my car and pumping my own gas is faster than waiting for an attendant to come over, take my card, ask me which gas grade I want, whether or not to fill it up, have them walk away to service other customers, mine finished while they’re in the middle of talking to someone else, now I wait for them to come back over…

Do you ask questions this stupid in real life, or are you just being dumb online?

afraid_of_zombies ,

Personal attack, enjoy your block, while you are waiting for all the pumps blocked by people not able to use the credit card reader.

minorsecond ,

Lol that shit never happens enough to matter. Get a grip.

girlfreddy ,
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@minorsecond @afraid_of_zombies

afraid of zombies seems to be afraid of everything.

Vonkilington ,

Oh no some random dipshit blocked me, what will I do

enki ,

The rest of the country figured out how to use a credit card terminal and pump their own gas decades ago. Welcome to 2023 - we don’t have flying cars, but even grandma knows how Apple Pay works.

afraid_of_zombies ,

Gotcha that is why I have never once in my entire life been stuck waiting on a line outside of my state.

enki ,

Ok, bud. Have a great day.

Ilikepornaddict ,

That is impressive levels of lazy.

Fingerblaster007 ,

I guess you don’t pay anyone to do anything in your life

Ilikepornaddict ,

Not something that easy, no. Would you pay someone to tie your shoelaces too?

Fingerblaster007 ,

Pretty idiotic example. Can’t come up with something better?

Ilikepornaddict ,

No, it’s not, it fits perfectly with how simple the task is. The fact that you think it doesn’t fit just furthers my point.

Fingerblaster007 ,

I didn’t realize that I was talking to someone who’s every task is simple. Fuckn clown. Lol

Ilikepornaddict ,

Lol, impressive levels of lazy

Fingerblaster007 ,

Guess work smart, not harder isn’t your thing. I’ll sit in my nice AC/heat in the summer/winter and let the guy pump my gas in pretty much exactly the same amount of time that it would take me to do it. Keep on keepin on, tough guy

morphballganon ,

Y’all are BOTH making invalid arguments. There are pros and cons to both methods. You have each grown accustomed to one way and the other way seems strange to each of you. It’s not like one of you is wrong and one right.

I grew up in Oregon but have pumped gas when traveling in other states. Getting out to pump your gas is a minor inconvenience. Waiting for an attendant to serve you is a minor inconvenience. Each of you is simply used to a different minor inconvenience.

Chill.

ExMimic ,

I’m not for or against this law. I just like not having to get out of my car when it’s freezing outside.

radiohead37 ,

At the expense of someone else being outside for hours?

ExMimic ,

That’s not a good argument. The workers are being paid to do the job. The same way Garbage collecters, crossing guards, etc are being paid to be outside.

Mdotaut801 ,

Idk why you are getting downvoted. I agree, they are getting paid to do it and if they want to do something different, there’s menial, low level jobs everywhere. It’s not at the expense of someone else, and why are other people complaining about someone else’s job for them? What if they don’t mind it? What if they really need the money and it’s just a job and it’s fine? I’m not saying it’s not a stupid law or anything but jeez people. Chill.

HeyJoe ,

How about health? Nobody should have to work a job that puts their future health at risk, especially a pointless job such as this. There are not a ton of studies on it but the ones that have been done show some of the effects from breathing in fumes majority of the day and it does negatively effect you where it could lead to higher % of complications later on. Of course people will argue against these claims, but who really wants to find out? It’s a job nobody should have to do so nobody should have to take the risk at all.

ExMimic ,

Should we also eliminat landscaping jobs due to the negative health risk? They’re have to work in the blazing heat of the summer, using loud equipment, breathing in fumes. According to you, we should ban landscaping companies, and make everyone take care of the own lawns and yards.

Why have flaggers for road work? Drivers should just learn to slow for road work. People shouldn’t be forced to work such a pointless and dangerous job, right?

Many jobs have some sort of health risk, gas attendents included.

Once again, I am not for or against the law in NJ. If they got rid of the law tomorrow, than I couldn’t care less. I’m perfectly capable of pumping my own gas, and have done so both in and out of state. I just like the convenience of not having to do it.

Nusm ,
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Why have flaggers for road work? Drivers should just learn to slow for road work. People shouldn’t be forced to work such a pointless and dangerous job, right?

Umm…

https://i.imgur.com/OcKf5wq.jpg

ExMimic , (edited )

So you provide one picture, and that is supposed to negate my argument? There are still flaggers being employed, and you completely ignore the rest of my previous comment.

Nusm ,
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Dude, I was just being funny. Chill, what is this Reddit*??

ExMimic ,

Couldn’t tell you were joking. Sorry, bud

dragonflyteaparty , (edited )

This is such a ridiculous take. If we can get rid of a dangerous job, we should. If we can’t, they should get extra money as hazard pay, not minimum wage or just above it. If the argument is, but that job isn’t hard, maybe just maybe we shouldn’t mandate it exist just for the sake of having anything and actually take care of people.

ExMimic ,

Pretty sure landscapers don’t get paid well enough to work such a dangerous job. Almost everyone should capable of mowing there own lawn in 100 degree weather, right?

dragonflyteaparty ,

Their* and you seem to have missed the mandate and conditional portions of my comment. I never said make the job illegal. I said don’t mandate it exists. Funny how that’s different.

ExMimic ,

Oh no, I accidentally a word. Hope you feel better now you’ve corrected me.

So how about we come an agreement. You start focusing on getting rid of this law in NJ. Petition the state reps, or whatever. Heck, let me know you start, and I’ll sign petition as well. Meanwhile, I’ll continue to focus on planting trees and flowers to attract more pollinaters back to my community. I already have enough to worry, and I can’t focus on every little thing that affects every single by myself.

Mdotaut801 ,

Again, none one is forcing them to work there.

CmdrShepard ,

I used to change people’s oil for a living and get soaked in the stuff all day long. We should ban lube shops too as changing your own oil is super easy and only takes minutes to do yourself.

iegod ,

Where I live, the business can choose. We have both options. People rarely choose the full serve since it’s more expensive.

ExMimic ,

That’s fine as well. If NJ allowed businesses to choose than I’d likely do full serve when I don’t feel like doing myself.

be_excellent_to_each_other ,
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Pumping gas isn't hard to do. I drive through Jersey sometimes and although I'm always happy that their gas runs a bit cheaper, I'm always annoyed that I can't just get out and do it and be on my way.

flop_leash_973 , (edited ) in Google is charging its employees $99 a night to stay at its on-campus hotel to help "transition to the hybrid workplace."

Jokes on them if they think I would be “to proud” to just sleep in a conference room, at my desk, etc if the only other option is actually paying them for the privilege of staying there.

I wonder what the rules are, like what would happen if you rent a room and just had a booze fueled rager several nights a week, leaving the room trashed.

Or sublet it out to a third party for more than $100/night as a side hustle.

ChihuahuaOfDoom , in Teen Couple Allegedly Kill Girl’s Dad for Disliking Boyfriend

Why is this posted to “news” if it’s a 2 year old story? Has there been a follow up or some recent development?

Edit: Sentenced to life in October of last year, www.8newsnow.com/…/im-not-a-monster-las-vegas-tee…

BzzBiotch , in Teen Couple Allegedly Kill Girl’s Dad for Disliking Boyfriend
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Guess dad was right?

Son_of_dad ,

The boyfriend looks casually abusive. The dad probably clocked that right away

SuckMyWang , in Teen Couple Allegedly Kill Girl’s Dad for Disliking Boyfriend

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  • FlyingSquid ,
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    Well they won’t dislike you anymore…

    arin , in Google is charging its employees $99 a night to stay at its on-campus hotel to help "transition to the hybrid workplace."

    Never pay your employer to do your job, are we in another great depression?

    MrSqueezles ,

    This hotel has been there for a while for visiting employees, paid for by the company. People wanted this option if, for example, you lived in Brazil, wanted to visit the US, but didn’t have any reason to book a business trip because you don’t work with anyone at headquarters. I’m going to guess that most paying guests won’t be reporting for work during their stays, but will be grabbing a solid 3 meals a day, plus snacks.

    Comment105 , in A judge has ruled Texas' abortion ban is too restrictive for women with pregnancy complications

    Written in blood.

    bumblebrainbee ,

    Again.

    bernieecclestoned , in Twitch streamer Kai Cenat's hyped PS5 giveaway sparks mayhem in Manhattan

    W.t.f…

    Default_Defect , in Prosecutors ask judge to issue protective order after Trump post appearing to promise revenge
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    I hope SO MUCH that Trump’s trial has an equivalent to Alex Jones’ “your lawyer sent me a copy of your entire cell phone” moment, where we get to see him shit his pants in real time.

    FlyingSquid ,
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    We won’t get to see it. No cameras in federal courtrooms.

    Default_Defect ,
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    Then I look forward to the artist renditions. It’ll have to do.

    twistypencil ,

    He wears diapers

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  • twistypencil ,

    Agreed, but it is the truth that he does… And he does so because of his long sustained stimulant use.

    Hextic ,

    Disagree. This “man” seeks to rule over us he doesn’t get common decency of any kind.

    That goes for every single politician, CEO, manager, boss, cop, etc. You want the job then get fucking roasted. Your job as this so called authority figure is to take it on the chin and be better than us to a point we don’t feel the need to roast you over petty shit.

    The problem with this world is we don’t bully authority enough.

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