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girlfreddy OP , in Racism Is Why Trump Is So Popular
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They fear becoming a minority.

They/we were often the minority but still held all the power.

We’re simply terrified that in becoming the minority now, Black and Brown people would start treating us like we’ve treated them for hundreds of years.

FlyingSquid ,
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We’re simply terrified that in becoming the minority now, Black and Brown people would start treating us like we’ve treated them for hundreds of years.

That is definitely a huge part of it. And it’s total projection like so much else they believe. “They’ll get revenge because we would get revenge.”

billiam0202 ,

And at what point does that become a self-fulfilling prophecy? The longer minorities in this country are treated as second-class citizens, the more likely it becomes for them to treat whites the exact same way when they’re the minority.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

If there wasn’t a purge when most of the black population of the country was released from slavery, I don’t think a purge is coming.

Tower ,
TheDemonBuer , in Biden dropped out because “the most important thing” is “we must defeat Trump”: CBS News
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All politicians must learn this lesson. You are a public servant. It’s not about your ego or your legacy, it’s about what is best for the country and its people.

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boatsnhos615 , in For these voters, Tim Walz is a reminder of their dad - before they were lost to partisan division

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Voroxpete , in Biden dropped out because “the most important thing” is “we must defeat Trump”: CBS News

Win or lose, Biden will have my respect for this. No matter where you live, it’s a rare thing to see a leader truly placing their nation’s good before their own pride. I hope others will learn by his example.

Corkyskog ,

I agree… I was shocked when it was announced. But then again, the DNC establishment basically dragged him out of retirement to beat Bernie.

Voroxpete ,

It’s deeply ironic to me that a) they almost certainly wouldn’t have been in this situation if Bernie had been the nominee last time, and b) as a direct result of that choice their nominee now is formerly the senator with the closest voting record to Bernie’s, running with the VP pick that Bernie suggested.

They tried to cut him off at the knees, but in the end, Sanders kind of ended up calling the shots.

Grandwolf319 ,

Your commit fills me with hope, not just because I’m a Bernie fan, but because it shows that sometimes the better voice does win eventually.

xmunk , in US air force avoids PFAS water cleanup, citing supreme court’s Chevron ruling

We have an irresponsible and illegitimate Supreme Court and this is what we get.

originalucifer ,
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there are also humans at the top of the 'air force' that made this decision not to clean up. its two sets of irresponsible...no... negligent humans at play.

NJSpradlin ,

Playing by the rules and showing those that made them their flaws, is also a legitimate strategy to force corrections.

originalucifer ,
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exactly, lets purposefully poison lots of people so we can force those regulations written in blood!

IsThisAnAI ,

And playing with lives over to respond or not with unclear rules over the next 50 years is better? Folks will get sick either way. I’d prefer to force a decision sooner rather than later.

Transporter_Room_3 ,
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Well… Just poison the right watering holes that the people who have the power to act care about, and suddenly they’ll care about the EPA and water quality regulations.

gAlienLifeform ,
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You think the drinking water of Supreme Court justices is going to be contaminated as a result of this? They’re not being punished for making a mistake, a bunch of innocent powerless plebs will be.

catloaf ,

I’m sure Clarence Thomas’s RVs have a water filter.

Transporter_Room_3 ,
@Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website avatar

So you’re saying contaminate their water. I like the idea.

catloaf ,

That would be the Secretary of the Air Force, Frank Kendall.

Also, he is appointed by, and reports directly to, the president. Biden could easily call this guy up and tell him to unfuck himself.

andrewta ,

That’s exactly what I was thinking

frezik ,

“Do you know the chain of command? It’s the chain I use to beat you if you don’t cleanup the gorram PFAS.”

Biggles ,

Biden is commander in chief. He can just order them to clean it up.

thefartographer ,

I can’t tell if this is a genuine attempt to dodge cleanup or an attempt to test a Supreme Court ruling before companies can get out of hand during the next administration.

But maybe I’m reading too much into the context.

index ,

They also made the decision to pollute in the first place. Let’s not divert the attention off the cause of the pollution.

Maggoty ,

To be fair, much of this pollution was done decades ago. The people responsible for the bulk of it are retired by now.

SGGeorwell ,

We have a *criminal, irresponsible, and illegitimate Supreme Court.

CaptainSpaceman ,

Gorsuch was an eternity ago, but thats where it started

Yawweee877h444 ,

We have a nation of people who voted for the people who selected the extreme far right conservatives into the court.

Voters deserve much of the blame too.

Blackbeard ,
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…and who vote for a Congress that refuses to pass laws to address these problems.

grue ,

What are you talking about? Congress did pass a law to address this: it’s called the Clean Water Act. The issue is that an illegitimate SCOTUS packed by traitors basically invalidated it.

Blackbeard ,
@Blackbeard@lemmy.world avatar

The article spells out what I’m talking about pretty clearly. I work with the CWA literally on a daily basis. Congress hasn’t made the CWA more clear or specific since the Water Quality Act of 1987. Congress could literally fix this dispute between federal agencies tomorrow, but we elected Republicans to control the House, which means it has a snowball’s chance in hell of ever happening.

grue ,

The CWA as of 1987 is plenty clear under any reasonable standard. The relevant problem here is that SCOTUS has ordained an unreasonable standard. Yes, Democratic control of both houses of Congress could “fix” that issue, but the point is it shouldn’t need to because the EPA should be allowed to do its job (which, contrary to the illegitimate tyrannical stooges’ diseased opinions, does include interpreting the law!).

Blackbeard ,
@Blackbeard@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, Democratic control of both houses of Congress could “fix” that issue

Glad we agree.

originalucifer ,
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id argue non-voters are equally to blame, and a larger block

xmunk ,

Erm, all Americans who could vote share the blame but Mitch McConnel gets a big heaping serving of it.

capital ,

The consequences of people staying home and/or general apathy in regards to voting.

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Aceticon , (edited ) in Young Jewish man stabbed in NYC by attacker yelling ‘Free Palestine’

For fucks sake!

Israel is not at all the same as the Jewish Religion no matter what the ethno-Fascists Zionists and the child-mass-murder-loving politicians in the Anglo-Saxon World and Germany say.

Bloody useful idiots.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

More Jews live outside of Israel than live Inside. And while Jews do have the right to claim Israeli citizenship if they can prove their heritage, it’s become very uncommon as even the children of Holocaust survivors are dying out. Their kids don’t feel unsafe in other countries like the previous generations were given reason to.

Aceticon ,

Shit man, there are even Jews who are against the very existence of Israel for religious reasons.

I mean, only a fucking ignorant racist idiot would believe the bollocks about Israel and the Jewish Religion being the same thing and I apply that to both the the morons passing laws that make demonstrating against the Israeli Genocide be treated as anti-semitism and to the morons attacking Jews because of the actions of Israel.

Mind you, in many places Neoliberalism so normalized “benevolent” racism (the kind that says “people from this ethnic group are good” or that “this nation represents this ethnicity”) that it made it easy for many to flip from that into “malevolent” racism (i.e. “people of this ethnicity are bad”) when the “representatives” of the ethnicity do evil shit.

This is not to justify the racism morons: I’m just pointing out that when you constantly plow and fertilize the moral ideas field with Prejudice (“people should be judged by their ethnicity”), don’t be surprised when it’s just as fertile to grow “people of this ethnicity are good and deserve special treatment” ideas as “people of this ethnicity are evil and deserve ‘special’ treatment” ones.

(Sorry for the blow up: I really detest the slimy manipulative racism of Neoliberalist Modern Politics that adjusted the tribalism, prejudice and racism of the old days into a “fashionable” format to keep using it to manipulate the masses, rather than genuinelly be “liberal” - i.e. all people are the same and should be judged by their own beliefs and actions - in the moral sense)

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t disagree with you at all that Israel has definitely fanned the flames of antisemitism, but having been on the receiving end from people who even like Israel (many evangelicals Christians want people like me forcibly exiled to Israel so Jesus can come back), it’s not just Israel.

People hate Jews for all sorts of reasons. A lot of evangelicals hate me because my ancestors apparently killed Jesus, even though it was the Romans, and that’s my fault. People like Elon Musk and his ilk hate me because I apparently control the banks and Hollywood. People like Nick Fuentes hate me because Hitler hated people like me and he loves Hitler. I’m sure some people hate me just because I’m slightly different from them.

And I don’t mean to restrict this to just Jews. What I saw happen to my Muslim brothers and sisters after 9/11 was disgusting, and even these days you have people essentially claiming all Muslims are terrorists. And both Jews and Muslims in America are essentially considered foreigners in our own country. I’m from Indiana, but that doesn’t matter even though I guarantee you that I have more in common with a Palestinian American born in Montana than either of us have with a Jew in Israel or a Muslim in Palestine.

There is so much hate in this world.

Barbarian ,
@Barbarian@sh.itjust.works avatar

A lot of evangelicals hate me because my ancestors apparently killed Jesus

That was the official catholic church doctrine until 1965 as well.

I’ve found it funny that historically Christians hate Jews so much. They worship one, after all.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

That, and- didn’t Jesus have to die for everyone’s sins?

Shouldn’t they be thanking me for my service?

Aceticon ,

It’s not surprising and kinda dovetails with the point I was making: prejudice kept being cultivated throught the XX and XXI century in a different form, making the field just as fertile for traditional racism as it was making it for the (supposedly) “benevolent” racism fashionable in this era.

Whenever somebody says “ethnicity are victims” and “we should do this special thing for them we do not do for other people”, what’s being passed right besides the supposedly benevolent message is another, far less nice, message: “people of ethnicity are different from other people and should be treated differently from people of other ethnicities”.

It didn’t help that (not just in terms of ethnicity) many with the “right” “ism” went far beyond the (rightful and totally just) fight for Equality Of Treatment and took advantage of the “benevolent” prejudice for Personal Gain whilst hiding behind the group, which indirectly caused discomfort in others who saw it as unfair.

So both the supposedly anti-Racists and the Racists kept the Architecture Of Prejudice going not just in speech but even in action, and it seems to me that Jews are suffering the most from it now because the traditional anti-semites kept being assholes, and now, because of the actions of Israel, many of the people who previously believed the “positive” kind of message about Jews I listed above (which can only be believed by believing the Principles of Prejudice underlying it) flipped from a “positive” predesposition towards the ethnicity to a “negative” predesposition, whilst continuing to believe the foundation of Prejudice - i.e. they turned from being what we were told by poiticians was anti-Racism into traditional Racists.

Not only is there, as you say, so much hate in this World, but the sleazy slimy disgusting manipulation in this domain of the masses for personal gain by politicians and just greedy people hiding behind “the group” that pushed “positive” discrimination, made it immenselly easy to turn favourable opinions of group held by simpletions into unfavourable opinions of group, turning them into people unfairly hating an entire group of people for the hateful actions of a few people in that group, i.e. into traditional racists.

The real opposite of Racism is the thinking that people should only be judged on their actual actions and character and that thinking that a person’s ethnicity (gender, sexual orientation or so on) makes them be in a special group and dictates their character is as moronic as thinking that the color of their eyes or the size of their feet makes them be in a special group and dictates their character.

(This is actually the kind of thinking I’ve had since long before all that’s happenning now and going back to learning from the Dutch their posture when it comes to things like homosexuallity which is pretty much “it’s all normal so I’m not going to judge people for it” - as much as possible I try to apply that to any form of prejudice on things people were born with)

gedaliyah OP ,
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[They] don’t feel unsafe in other countries like the previous generations were given reason to.

While that may be true in some places, it’s not true everywhere:

In Wake Of Increasing Anti-Semitic Attacks, More Jews Flee France (2016, and it has only increased since)

2,600 people have moved to Israel since Hamas invaded. New arrivals cite incidents of being spat on, bullied, and general rise in antisemitism

FlyingSquid , (edited )
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I wouldn’t call 2600 people out of over 15 million especially significant.

gedaliyah OP ,
@gedaliyah@lemmy.world avatar

Really? Over 2 1/2 months? In the middle of a war?

It’s been over 250k in the past decade, although I don’t have any information on how much of that has been due to antisemitism.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I’m just saying this is not mass migration we’re talking about in terms of the population as a whole. I think we will continue to see population parity between the entire Jewish population in Israel and New York City for quite some time. In fact, New York City’s Jewish population is slightly higher. 7.5 million vs. 7.2 million for all of Israel.

gedaliyah OP ,
@gedaliyah@lemmy.world avatar

I only meant to draw your attention to the fact that antisemitism is driving a growing portion of Jewish migration (largely to Israel). France, for example, has seen 7% of the Jews leave in the past decade alone (over 15% since 1990 - from 530k-446k).

This is not a trend seen in other groups in France - just Jews.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Sure, I won’t argue that. I think we’re making two different points, to be honest.

gedaliyah OP ,
@gedaliyah@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t disagree with you at all. Just adding some context about how seriously antisemitism is impacting Jews in the West.

solsangraal , in Biden dropped out because “the most important thing” is “we must defeat Trump”: CBS News

D vs R = setting aside your own personal ambition in order to benefit the common good, vs wiping your ass with the common good in order to benefit your own personal ambition

danc4498 ,

The biggest challenge Democrats have had is that they want their policies to be good for everybody, even the people that hate them. This means democrats aren’t as excited about the policies and Republicans just hate everything they do no matter what.

The ACA was the perfect example of this. Dems could have done whatever they wanted, but chose a very conservative healthcare model. Dems were indifferent and Republicans just latched onto this as a lightning rod for their hatred.

Republicans on the other hand will give their base 100% of what they want with no compromise. If you didn’t vote for republicans, they don’t care what you want or how you feel. This gives their base massive enthusiasm.

aleph , (edited )
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I wouldn’t go that far. Don’t forget that the main reason Biden had to be pressured to step down in the first place was that he had effectively been foisted on lukewarm voters and that his cognitive decline had been purposefully hidden for quite some time before the infamous debate.

Yes, it’s good that he finally agreed to bow out of the race, but he only did it after weeks of massive pressure from the media and from within his own party. Without that, he would most likely be the presumptive nominee today and the Democrats would still be getting creamed in the polls.

disguy_ovahea ,

Well, to benefit his own personal ambitions and to be able to pardon himself from all those pesky federal charges. Trump’s freedom may be on the line with this election, and he knows it.

krashmo ,

That’s what they said last time and look where he is now. Sure, he’s a convicted felon and that’s sort of fun to say but that’s more of a historical footnote than a meaningful development. There’s still been no serious consequences to his actions and if I were to place a bet on it I would put money on the chance that there never will be.

disguy_ovahea ,

There hasn’t been a Federal trial yet. It’s not that the charges “didn’t stick.” They haven’t been heard yet.

krashmo ,

Oh I’m fully aware of the situation but I don’t think that changes anything I said. Do you think he’ll do prison time or be forced to dissolve any of his businesses as restitution for any of his crimes? If not then all we’re really debating is the degree to which rich and powerful people are treated differently than the rest of us.

disguy_ovahea ,

I don’t know. Another one of his attorneys turned to testify against him in the election fraud case. The documents case could absolutely lead to jail time if Smith can push for another judge. Cannon can’t postpone indefinitely without repercussions.

As for payments, if he loses his appeal in NY, he’s on the hook for half a billion.

krashmo ,

Theoretically, sure, I just don’t see any of that happening. That’s not all that different from the situation four years ago and at minimum that speed difference is a big part of what I’m referring to. Someone who stole $5000 would have started serving their sentence three and a half years ago but we’re still talking about maybe getting everything to line up to possibly take action against Trump if things go our way. That’s bullshit even if he does go to prison and as we’ve already established I don’t think that’s going to happen.

ChickenLadyLovesLife ,

Saudi Arabia’s already given Trump $2 billion via his son-in-law (and that’s likely just the public part of what they’ve given him). He’s not going to give a shit about a few hundred million dollars judgement, even if it doesn’t die in the appeals process.

GreenSkree ,
@GreenSkree@lemmy.world avatar

Another one of his attorneys turned to testify against him in the election fraud case.

Are you talking about the fairly recent news about Jenna Ellis? Unless I’m mistaken, she’s cooperating with a different set of fake electors cases that’s based out of Arizona.

Even as someone who follows this stuff fairly regularly, it’s impossible to keep track of all of Trump’s criminal cases… and that’s just the stuff we know about that prosecutors have picked up.

The documents case could absolutely lead to jail time if Smith can push for another judge. Cannon can’t postpone indefinitely without repercussions.

If he loses the election and if the Supreme Court stays out of it, I’d agree.

He also has sentencing scheduled in September for his felony convictions, though I don’t have a clue what that will be or what appeal timeline and whatnot looks like.

It’s frustrating to see all of this move so slowly. I know these things take time, but it feels like there was no urgency in 2021 when he left office to deal with the election interference and numerous, publicly known, criminal acts.

ChickenLadyLovesLife ,

The only consequence he would ever face would be having to flee to Russia or Saudi Arabia to avoid prison time in the US, and that only if he weren’t given home incarceration.

PugJesus , in Biden dropped out because “the most important thing” is “we must defeat Trump”: CBS News

A good choice by him. It can be hard to swallow one’s pride, but Biden’s first duty is to the USA, not to himself.

sinkingship ,

I’m not from the US. Is it really his choice? I thought it would be more democratic and the party members would vote for who they run, how they run, etc?

PugJesus ,

Well, effectively, what happened is that the Democratic Party had a primary election, where people voted on who they wanted the Democratic nominee to be. The thing is, conventional political wisdom is that the incumbent president has a large advantage simply from being the incumbent - people who are uncertain tend to stick to the status quo, and name recognition is as high as one could wish for. So, in the primary, no one serious ran against him because:

A. It would have been a waste of time and money

and

B. Doing so would’ve marked one out as very much ‘not a team player’, so to speak.

Thus, he won the primary election. However, after the primaries, he had a disastrous debate performance, and several highly influential members of the Democratic Party not only called for him to step down, but alleged mental decline (not necessarily dementia, but a serious decline in Biden’s sharpness and energy which raised questions about his ability to run the kind of vigorous campaign needed), even just since January of this year. Biden resisted calls to step down at first, and since he was the winner of the primaries, he was the only one who could realistically make the choice. He eventually bowed to public and private pressure and stepped down.

sinkingship ,

Thank you for the detailed explanation!

I see. Yes I watched the debate and he really didn’t do well, like he was on some medicine and partly asleep. My favorite part was when they discussed who is better at golf. Was a very important thing to get clear for people like me, that are worried of climate collapse.

But this isn’t new to Biden, is it? Confusing names and numbers has always been a Biden thing, I think, it’s not necessarily a health decline. Like my favorite American president quote is “America is a nation that can be defined in a single word: ashofootnae ehfoot, excuse me, at the foothills in the Himalaya…”

That’s why I thought the democrats had a meeting after the debate and saw that Biden’s campaign is not going well and the public thinks (doesn’t matter if rightfully or not) Biden is too old and mentally declining. Maybe, in order to save the sinking ship, it’s best to play a rather risky move of changing the nomine just a few months before election. Or maybe he was also peer pressured.

Anyway, if it was Biden’s initiative he does deserve a lot of respect for it!

PugJesus ,

There’s some argument over whether it was primarily Biden in decline or just the perception of Biden in decline, but, to be fair, insofar as judging the mood of the electorate is concerned, the two are one and the same.

sinkingship ,

I would go even further and say that the perception of the voters outweighs reality.

InternetUser2012 , in FTC head wants investigation into grocery stores over inflated prices

Me too.

Nuke_the_whales , in Betsy DeVos, Who Quit Trump Admin, Says She’d Serve Again if Trump Wins

I forgot all about this Hagraven.

Cephalotrocity , in GOP House candidate was blamed after handgun was stolen

I look forward to the inevitable election results showing ~50% of the population thinks someone this careless, nay reckless, is appropriate for the role of legislator.

HubertManne ,

yeah the use broken into when the car was unlocked seems a bit misleading. I mean no one should go into someones care when its unlocked but man you have a firearm in there or important work documents and you have a responsibility to lock that shit up.

macaro ,

My company has a policy to keep company equipment in locked trunks, even if most of us just have expensive laptops.

andrewta , in GOP House candidate was blamed after handgun was stolen

That last paragraph sums up what I was thinking. How would they know the person is a repeat offender if they aren’t sure who the person was?

TransplantedSconie ,

Because using “repeat offender” let’s them paint it as a result of democrats policy and their voting base is too stupid to realize it.

Zorsith ,
@Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

And “brazenly broke into” is a bit overkill given the fuckin car was UNLOCKED. Nothing necessarily damaged, owner is just a dumbass.

AbidanYre ,

Yet another “responsible gun owner” who isn’t all that responsible.

FlyingSquid , in "The Olympics of lying": Pete Buttigieg blasts Trump for verified 162 lies told at recent presser
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I don’t think he knows the difference between the truth and a lie at this point.

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