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n2burns , in Hackers may have stolen the Social Security numbers of all Americans. Here's what to know.

that provides background checks for employers, investigators and other businesses that want to check people’s backgrounds.

Great editing once again brought to you by the Department of Redundancy Department!

tenchiken , in Iowa man allegedly shoots his father in face after complaint about smelly feet

Next up: DeSantis deputizes the attackers feet, claims the smell has religious rights to defend itself, bans any books referring to “stink”, and blames the lack of a pregnant woman in a nearby kitchen barefoot for the failure of the ammunition to succeed in the way American ammunition should.

And somehow the smell itself is woke because of tampons or something.

systemglitch , in When Florida judges sentence children tried as adults, they give them higher sentences on average for felony crimes than adult offenders

Well duh. Imagine for a second what a kid has to do to end up in that situation. These are usually seriously fucked up humans.

DrunkDragon ,

You don’t understand. Lemmy, like all social media, runs on outrage. How are we supposed to hate the prison industry if what’s going on has a perfectly reasonable explanation? I need to feel hate with my morning coffee, because I need to feel something.

modifier , in Iowa man allegedly shoots his father in face after complaint about smelly feet

Just as the founders envisioned.

troed , in Hackers may have stolen the Social Security numbers of all Americans. Here's what to know.
@troed@fedia.io avatar

Maybe it's time to move on from using SSNs for security? We have someting similar in Sweden - "person numbers". If I call the tax authority and ask for someone's "person number" they will tell me. They're not secret in any way, and thus not used as some form of authentication either.

chrischryse ,

But how exactly does it work when applying for something like a credit card or going to a doctors office and filling out a form? Because here in the US those ask for SSN

Marafon ,

They ask for SSN because there is no other form of national ID in the US (by design). SSNs were not introduced with this use in mind in fact they were explicitly meant to not be used this way, but society has slowly twisted it into a de facto national ID.

chrischryse ,

what was meant to be used then?

brianary ,

Americans explicitly didn’t want a national ID.

Zorsith ,
@Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

And yet we have multiple of them now. Drivers license, SSN, and if you/your parent are/were military, EDIPI/DoDID.

brianary ,

Military, sure, but driver’s licenses are state-level, not federal. Health care has been using birthdate like a password (one that is largely publicly available) for way too long now. At least financial institutions can use account numbers and financial history and code words, but even all that isn’t great.

It’s a messy patchwork, but I think at the time of the creation of the SSA, the US may have still thought of itself as a land of second chances. IBM numbering Holocaust victims probably didn’t help the idea of a national ID, nor did the victim narrative of groups like the NRA.

I’m not sure if it’s possible not to have a national ID anymore, so denial of it just forces a terribly kludgy implementation from whatever is around.

Zorsith ,
@Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

drivers licenses are state-level

Are they though, with RealID requirements for new licenses now?

Cenzorrll ,

Yes

brianary ,

Hmm, that’s a good point. Washington finally relented, they were a hold-out for a long time.

FireTower ,
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RealID is option there’s no Federal mandate for it.

Zorsith ,
@Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Sure. As long as you don’t need to

  • access any federal buildings
  • fly domestically
  • exist after May 7 2025
  • have a non-expired drivers license

Then it’s optional. Non-RealID isn’t offered anymore in Ohio as far as I’m aware, I’d imagine other states are the same.

FireTower ,
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My state still offers non-RealID compliant licenses. And the down side isn’t all federal buildings only certain ones plus domestic flights. But a passport will also work for those if you don’t have one.

www.dhs.gov/real-id/real-id-faqs

RestrictedAccount ,

My number did not change after Real ID. I guess it could work if you added the state postal code to it.

MCasq_qsaCJ_234 ,

I think there should be an amendment allowing the creation of a Unique Population Registry Key that uses numeric and alphabetic characters.

brianary ,

Everyone should also get a procedurally-generated theme song.

littlewonder ,

I’m cool with this as long as I can reserve Thunderstruck by AC/DC.

Psychodelic ,

We really are kinda fuckin dumb in the US. It’s like we’re equally deeply suspicious of our government but too dumb to understand how it works so we ends up with blind, ignorant cynicism

srasmus ,
@srasmus@lemmy.world avatar

To track contributions and withdrawals to the social security system. Pretty much everyone in enrolled, so pretty much everyone has an SSN.

ThePantser ,
@ThePantser@lemmy.world avatar

You don’t have to give anyone your SSN, especially for medical. There are ways to bill without SSN.

Bluefalcon ,

Doctor’s office and credit card companies don’t need your ssn. It is one of the easiest places to steal them from.

clark.com/…/10-worst-places-give-your-social-secu…

Hotzilla ,

Nordics have resolved this by having the strong digital authentication. Services like banks and tele operators work as identity providers for individuals/companies.either through mobile network or app on your phone, and these is a central service that links these together.

This way third parties can safely identify you, and also it follows same OpenID/OAuth2.0/MFA principles, which are industry standards.

untorquer ,

Having experienced both systems the Nordic ones are well thought out, streamlined and feel extremely secure.

The US system feels so absurdly predatory and intentionally insecure. It’s often slower, non-standardized, and glitchy(e.g. student loan stuff).

In general, fraud is much easier in the US which is is by design as stated elsewhere in the thread.

foggy ,

The old social security cards had “NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION” printed on them for a reason.

circuitfarmer ,
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

This. It is so shocking that they just get used as a harder ID than actual ID. Someone didn’t get the memo. And by “someone”, I mean corporations who haven’t had real consequences in 50 years.

Addv4 ,

They were never actually meant for identification, just got pigeonholed into that role because the government couldn’t get support for a national citizen ID or the equivalent. We absolutely need something, but every republican will scream that, “it’s a way for the government to track us and limit out freedoms!” and it will be shot down.

ElegantBiscuit ,

The peak of irony considering the porn age ID verification laws and abortion bans they impose on people living in the states they control.

Pronell , in Medicare negotiated drug prices for the first time. Here’s what it got

That 20 year ban on negotiating drug prices passed with only Republican votes in the dead of night, holding the vote open until they convinced enough Republicans to change their vote.

And every single negative thing in that bill gets blamed on Obamacare.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

They must always obey their corporate masters.

Bishma , (edited ) in Hackers may have stolen the Social Security numbers of all Americans. Here's what to know.
@Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Jokes on them! They probably already had mine from the Move-It hack.

Checkmate hackers.

FlyingSquid , (edited ) in Hackers may have stolen the Social Security numbers of all Americans. Here's what to know.
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

The recommendation in the article was to freeze my credit reports. Fucking awesome. Equifax locked me out for 24 hours trying to access my account and Experian won’t even let me access my account because their website is apparently unable to text me a four-digit code. Now I have to call and deal with customer service for both of them. At least TransUnion let me do it almost immediately.

Sir_Kevin ,
@Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Having to deal with this inevitable shitshow is the only reason I haven’t done this yet. Every interaction I’ve ever had with these two companies has been a dumpster fire.

ramble81 ,

It was easy for me. I was able to do all three online with no issues. Just offering some anecdotal evidence to offset one other persons story.

KnightontheSun ,

I had some issues too. One was my overly locked-down FF browser. Once I switched over to my more relaxed FF DE it worked better. Had to attempt the text code a couple of times on Experian for it to eventually work. All three locked now and the frustrations were mostly minor.

The biggest frustration was that I had to do all of this in the first place. Now I am compelled to maintain accounts with these damn credit bureaus too. I just love modern conveniences.

Also, there is a fourth credit “bureau” called Innovis. I did nothing with them. Should I? Checking account creation via banks also use ChexSystems. Theoretically, a checking account could be opened in your name. I did nothing with them, either. Not sure if I need to.

Sir_Kevin , (edited )
@Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Trying now. So far,

Equifax website logged in fine but I got sidetracked by something else so it timed me out. Try to login again and it gives me a blank page. Disabled ad blockers, cleared cookies, closed browser etc… Same thing.

Experian website says my email doesn’t exist (an email I previously setup specifically for Experian). Ok submit lost password form using phone number and social… It says to enter the code texted to the same number which they’re showing as existing… Never get the code. Resent code. Never get the code. Click “sign in another way”, taken back to original login page.

TransUnion absolutely flawless.

Now I have to go slide my cock back into the blender which is Equifax and Experian in hopes I can access my own information before a hacker does. I’d say it’s 50:50 odds on that.

Edit:

Tried Experian “forgot username” option. It asks for date of birth and full social. Says the shit doesn’t match! How in the actual fuck?

QuarterSwede ,
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I froze my credit once and I’ll never do it again. Almost stopped the purchase of my house because it took so long to unfreeze. Screw that.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

But if you don’t, someone could use your now stolen SSN to do things like take out loans in your name. I don’t think it would be too hard to unfreeze it before you started house shopping.

dgmib , in Harris Energizes Democrats in Transformed Presidential Race

The thing I’m noting is not the part about Harris’s rising approval, but that it has increased the percentage of Trump supporters who are say they are “extremely motivated to vote” to 72%.

Approval ratings don’t matter if one side has a larger percentage of its voters actually voting.

stonerboner ,

It does when the side with the increase is already a sizably smaller block than the side with increased energy.

Nothing has changed for MAGA, they will always toe the line. But, as for the past two decades, they will lose the popular vote and their only hope will be to subvert democracy.

ramble81 ,

I.e the misogynists and racists coming out in force.

tiefling ,

On the flip side, maybe that means his less motivated voters have fled?

nifty , in "Double haters" who loathed Trump and Biden actually seem to like Kamala Harris, poll suggests
@nifty@lemmy.world avatar

People need to get over the candidate BS, you’ve never really electing a candidate, but a party and a platform.

Thats why all republicans are forever tainted by the project 2025 insidious cultural vomit. The dislike of project 2025, and the fact Democrats are now seen as hitting assholes back, is a BIG reason why Kamala is being favored.

Republicans are charlatans, and Democrats need to be more progressive and fight back hard. Fighting back with civility means pointing out the inadequacies, incompetencies and hypocrisies of your opponents.

Red-heavy states, ie not Purple, are economic losers and failures on all objective measures of state success. It’s not the fault of the people living there, it’s the politicians who deliberately trample them and keep these people in a perpetual state of misery, and then use racism to distract them from their pains. Those Americans deserve better.

Republicans need to be shamed for their utter policy failures and the subsequent miseries which resulted from them. I think the only reason people hated Biden was because he wasn’t perceived strong enough to defend the ideals of Americans who’re not into face eating leopards.

Sorry for the tangent/cringe post. I just can’t believe the Red party is still given any serious consideration.

TempermentalAnomaly , (edited )

People need to get over the candidate BS

In one sense this true. Policies are set by a small army of party elites and admins. Presidents aren’t just policy makers though. They are the face of a country. Their words are powerful and institutions react to them. They also project a sense of competency and vitality to the world.

it’s the politicians who deliberately trample them and keep these people in a perpetual state of misery, and then use racism to distract them from their pains.

I think this is a one sided analysis putting all the blame on the Republicans. It fails to wrestle with purple states that became red states like Florida and the inability for Democrats to make lasting in roads in purple states.

I just can’t believe the Red party is still given any serious consideration.

Personally, I turn to history when I want to understand something that confounds me. It would be better if I could actually talk to some people and really hear them. But I live a major metropolitan center in a blue state so my access is limited.

nifty ,
@nifty@lemmy.world avatar

IMO, Democrats consistently fail by being less progressive and not protecting the working/middle class. It’s neoliberalism that drives people away from Democrats.

Thoughtlessly enabling illegal immigration, which makes the country less safe, is also a problem. Immigration and providing asylum protections have to be done in a reasonable and proactive manner so as not to create instability in border communities, and to not alienate the people who live along the U.S. border.

Supporting foreign policies which embroil America in endless war is also problem, but it’s a beast with a thousand heads which sprouted way back when because of a policy of regional destabilization started by imperial Britain. The U.S. continued it with its absurd agenda against communist states and overthrowing of governments in LatAm. Unless all countries and leaders collectively call an end for it, it doesn’t stop.

But besides that countries with high happiness scores have strong social welfare programs and healthcare. Corporations need to be taxed more and be held accountable for their use or abuse of natural resources. In short, America needs to utilize the Nordic model for national and international policy making. In fact, I think it’s useful for all countries.

dumples , in Homeowners are increasingly re-wilding their homes with native plants, experts say

My neighborhood is showing a transition into gardens and native plants. Its interesting that it seems to be happening with both older (retired) neighbors and newer (young children) neighbors. Its helps that the local garden centers have been doing lots of natives and grass replacements.

Quick shout out to Prairie Moon to buy your seeds. Fall seeding is great for natives

captainlezbian ,

Yeah it seems like it’s not a generational thing anymore but rather just a cultural shift

dumples ,

Cultural shift for sure. What I have found is there have been decades of old hippies working on making things ready for millennials to jump on and convincing their friends to get to this point.

OhStopYellingAtMe , in Harris Energizes Democrats in Transformed Presidential Race
@OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world avatar

My election anxiety lessens a little bit with every campaign news update.

kandoh ,

I’m actually watching election update videos everyday as a moral booster now. Feels great and energizing.

SaintWacko , in Harris Energizes Democrats in Transformed Presidential Race

It feels good to be voting for someone instead of against them

ohlaph , in US Considers a Rare Antitrust Move: Breaking Up Google

Break em up!

FlyingSquid , in Gaza death toll hits 40,000, with thousands more yet to be counted
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I so look forward to someone coming in here telling us that we can’t trust those numbers because they come from Hamas, as if Israel hasn’t been bombing the ever-loving fuck out of Gaza.

Dasus ,
@Dasus@lemmy.world avatar

Weirdly posts like these have less propaganda trolls.

Guess they can’t rise up to the challenge. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Samvega OP ,

They’re magic bombs which only kill terrorists. And, if children die, those children are terrorists. And, if hospitals are destroyed, those hospitals were terrorists.

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