As I explained earlier today, he was commenting about crime decreasing around the world and, if Kamala were elected, it would be safer to meet the person he was speaking with in Venezuela than in the United States.
“If something happens with this election, which would be a horror show, we’ll meet the next time in Venezuela, because it’ll be a far safer place to meet than our country,” Trump said to Musk.
#“OK, so we’ll go. You and I will go, and we’ll have a meeting and dinner in Venezuela.”
I don’t know how you’ve twisted your brain in a fashion that makes apples look like pencils.
You and the media are misquoting him as saying he is going to flee the country, possibly to avoid criminal prosecution.
He is literally saying it would be safer to have a meeting in another country due to decreased criminal activity and the threat of a Harris presidency.
There’s a valid conversation to have around his statement. We could be discussing the crime rates in the US compared to Venezuela and the rest of the world. We could be looking at Harris’ record as a prosecutor and her political agenda to this point. We could easily be debunking what he’s saying to pile on more evidence that he’s a liar. Instead, the public wants to go on and on about something he actually never said or even hinted at.
Moreover, what my concern here is, the public’s ability to read comprehensively is deteriorating at a rapid pace. People are disinterested in taking the time to read an article and obtain true facts in preference of engaging with others over their feelings.
Having genuine dialog with others is more about listening than it is interrupting them and spewing your ideas. Everyone’s reading a headline and reacting without taking the time to listen to the story, digest its meaning, consider other factors and context, then responding in a meaningful, relevant manner.
I’m personally observing a world that’s becoming less interested in having real relationships. People are struggling to interact with others in real life. Ragebait is just one value in a larger more complex experience that’s changing our relationships and our reality.
There’s a lot of noise in our lives today. Most of it serves as a distraction. It’s the constant churning of the “news” and the endless instant streaming of “content” and the pings and buzzing of our devices. If it hasn’t already, this noise is becoming an addiction. Without noise, we’d be faced with calmness and focused attention.
Trump is noise. It’s noise crated by him and his brand and the media organizations and influencers pining for your attention and engagement. This story is a fabrication. The story about him slurring during the interview is a misleading observation. It’s a money maker for content creators because we need noise. Musk saying there was a DDOS attack is a lie and a distraction. It’s the noises he’s injecting into the zeitgeist to pull our attention away from something else.
We all need to be better at reading comprehension and listening. Take a moment to understand what it is you’re commenting on before you just become more noise and a cookie jar for advertisers.
You claimed he never made plans to leave the country, so I posted his exact quote where he makes plans to leave the country and now you’re claiming I’m misquoting him?
He’s a convicted felon who has yet to be sentenced making plans to leave the country. Why didn’t you mention that in your list of other factors and context we could be talking about?
Your quote was taken out of context. If you listen to the segment I’m commenting on here, it’s very apparent he’s not speaking about “leaving the country” but about crime rates. And as I said in the other thread, I’m only commenting on the short clip that I’m hearing. There may in fact be more context that pushes his words one way or another.
… and again I told you their crime rates all over the world are going way down which makes sense. Cause actually, and next time what we’ll do, if something happens with this election, which would be a horror show, we’ll meet the next time in Venezuela cause it’ll be a far safer place to meet than our country. Ok so we’ll go, you and I will go and we’ll have a meeting and dinner in Venezuela, because that’s what’s happening…
So yes, I’ll concede he is making plans to leave the country to have a meeting and dinner date in another country. If’s that’s the semantics you want to focus on, I’ll concede. The reason for him leaving the country, in the context of this conversation and the larger point he’s trying to make, is about safety and crime.
What I would infer from this is he’s pushing a false narrative about the “radical left’s agenda” to allow crime rates to go uncontrolled. I also wouldn’t take it as fact that he intends to go to Venezuela nor that he truly believes Venezuela is safer than the US. He’s being hyperbolic using a hypothetical. Which is totally on brand for him.
You admit he’s a liar, and that he’s making plans on leaving the country so why trust him when he says WHY he says he’s making those plans? Again, he’s a convicted felon who has yet to be sentenced. For being a stickler on ‘context’, you seem to be ignoring that part.
Also, are you going to edit your initial comment to admit that he did make plans to leave the country now that you conceded he did?
It’s evident that your mind is made up. You’ve chosen to reject reality in favor of your hopes and your feelings. Something must be true because you want it to be true. While I also want it to be true, I prioritize reality to inform my observations.
It’s painful to observe our comprehension of reality melting away for the benefit of the media and corporations and fascist-wannabes. They know people just see and feel what they want as long as it generates something other than nothing. I genuinely hope you’ll find a way to disconnect yourself from the twisted reality you subscribe to.
Actually, I had considered editing my comment to reflect the fact that he did not make plans to leave. It’s a hypothetical situation based on something that hasn’t happened. How you’re unable to discern that is too much for my mind to handle right now.
It would be weird if that was what’s happening, but it’s not. Look, I get where you’re coming from and I agree with you for the most part. But people are excited right now, even I am. I think Walz is a down to earth dude, probably the closest person to me in ‘status’ that might ever see the White House (I’m poor). I think even you would admit that’s pretty cool.
At the end of the day, it’s just people memeing and shit. I say “fuck it, let them ball”, but you do you.
We have some good memories and some bad ones. I know I do. Walz reminds me, and I think a lot of other people, of the good memories of my dad. My dad is a flawed human being that struggled to do the right thing sometimes but he did struggle, and I love him for the things he taught me and the good memories he left me.
Yeah, I guess they forgot to appoint a Christian King.
Those accounts provide about $6,600 per student to attend any school, including private or home schools
This “act” is all about funneling public tax money into the pockets of religious grifters, and hell, it sounds like you don’t even need to be an organized business grifter any more. You can just open your house/trailer/shack for a few hours a day as a “home school”, do a little praying at minimum, and collect $6600/head/yr. Sweet deal. But it’s not welfare. Nope, not at all, not if you’re a Christian taking the grift.
Florida is one power outrage away from having mass deaths. Even the people here don’t realize that their air conditioning has become a life support system.
I think that enough humans want to actively make the world worse that they will gladly vote for it. “I get more power and status if other people are treated like cattle.”
Failure is comforting. It asks nothing of you. You just wait for that failure to hurt someone else even more grievously, and then you laugh. Many people are happy to vote for complete and total failure.
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The banner stunt came shortly after Truss voiced her support for Elon Musk, who has claimed the UK has a two-tier policing system. She said on X: “I am appalled by the attacks on free speech in Britain and Europe. We can’t be truly free without free speech. Good for Elon Musk and X for standing up to these bullies.” Musk responded, thanking her for support.
Amazing how someone can be so right but twisted 180 degrees!
Like the US, the UK DOES have a two-tier policing system: the far right riot in the streets of most if not all major cities in England (based on an Islamophobic RUMOR) and get coddled, while the left are brutalized by cops at peaceful protests (against racial discrimination and corporations hastening the demise of the human race) if they even manage to avoid being THROWN IN JAIL FOR SEVERAL YEARS FOR PLANNING A PEACEFUL PROTEST!
It’s amazing how the privileged bullies can just pretend that the opposite of reality is true and gain support for it!
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