There have been multiple accounts created with the sole purpose of posting advertisement posts or replies containing unsolicited advertising.

Accounts which solely post advertisements, or persistently post them may be terminated.

TrickDacy ,

Just block the community/instance and move on

hark ,
@hark@lemmy.world avatar

No, even though they don’t like the instance, they are required to post in it for whatever reason and then cry when they predictably get modded.

TrickDacy ,

Makes sense!

It’s funny to me that they don’t admit what they said but want sympathy apparently.

tal ,
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

checks lemmyverse.net

There also appears to be a world news community on lemmy.world, if that’s more people’s speed.

!world

archomrade ,

I have no opinion about the particular circumstances of ops ban or anyone else’s interaction with lemmy.ml, but posting through a ban just never looks good

A whole comment section posting bans looks… worse. It looks worse.

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

What do you mean by posting through a ban?

Viking_Hippie OP , (edited )

posting through a ban just never looks good

It’s not like I’m evading the ban by posting there with another account or anything.

Just letting off steam about idiots in a community meant for, amongst other things, exactly that 🤷

Did you want me to leave Lemmy entirely for 3 days just because one idiot tankie called my common sense reply McCarthyism?

archomrade ,

I don’t mean ban evasion, I mean posting about it on another instance

It just looks a lot like posting about a break up. Usually you get only half the story and the other person is made out to be crazy

Viking_Hippie OP ,

Well in this case it’s clearly the whole story and the other person clearly IS a deranged tankie, so there’s that 🤷

archomrade ,

🤷

masquenox ,

I’m still undecided as to who is more irritating to deal with… the tankies over in .ml or the liberals over here.

Viking_Hippie OP , (edited )

It’s a tough competition for sure lol. I’d say that the tankies edge it, but woe betide anyone criticizing Biden for anything on .world.

“I don’t think that knowingly supplying the bombs used to commit genocide is great”

“Oh yeah? Well, TRUMP!”

TexMexBazooka ,

All of the .ml instances are absolutely Russian psyops and you can’t change my mind

(I jest… mostly…)

GluWu ,

I’m convinced they’re US psyops to make communists look like idiots. I don’t agree with most of communism, but I can respect people with different views. But the tankies on Lemmy are doing such a hard double dutch rudder on China and Russia they can’t be real. Nobody is that stupid, right? And then I remember how many people are going to vote for trump. Yes, the world really is this stupid all around. Idiots are taking over. The stupid people are breeding. Nationalists that feel it’s their duty to populate the homeland.

Kedly ,

Yeah, its the stark advocating of minority rights/protection on one hand and the intense jerking off of dictators with the other that breaks my brain with Tankies

tal , (edited )
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

Yes, the world really is this stupid all around.

Well, that’s the glass-is-half-empty view.

Another way to look at it is that from an evolutionary timeline standpoint, we’re a bunch of hairless ground apes quite recently spending most of our time living in caves in groups of maybe 150 at most. We’ve been, in an evolutionary blink of an eye, propelled rapidly into a horribly-different and rather-confusing environment, and still trying to get by on our cave-dwelling adaptations. And in that context, perhaps we’re doing quite well.

It has been observed that if the last 50,000 years of man’s existence were divided into lifetimes of approximately sixty-two years each, there have been about 800 such lifetimes. Of these 800, fully 650 were spent in caves. Only during the last seventy lifetimes has it been possible to communicate effectively from one lifetime to another—as writing made it possible to do. Only during the last six lifetimes did masses of men ever see a printed word. Only during the last four has it been possible to measure time with any precision. Only in the last two has anyone anywhere used an electric motor. And the overwhelming majority of all the material goods we use in daily life today have been developed within the present, the 800th, lifetime.

– Future Shock, Alvin Toffler, 1970

Mastengwe ,

Tankies on lemmy are absolutely that stupid. I argue with them all the time. And like OP, I get posts removed and banned often. Across several accounts.

bitwaba ,

Across several accounts

I choose to believe those tankies are doing the same, and it’s just one tankie you’re arguing with. In fact all tankies arguments on Lemmy are just at argument between you and other said tankie dude on new accounts.

Viking_Hippie OP ,

Damn, that dude types FAST! Reads super fast too, although his reading comprehension leaves a lot to be desired 😄

Natanael ,

ChatGPTankie

fuckingkangaroos ,

You’re right that they aren’t real communists, that’s a mask they wear to spread Kremlin and CCP propaganda.

The idea that they’re run by the US government is ridiculous, they’re full of hateful anti-Western content.

BennyHill ,
@BennyHill@lemmy.ml avatar

I dont know anybody on .ml, lemmygrad or hexbear who supports russia, i really dont know where the lib world people got that strawman from.

cabron_offsets ,

Doubt. More than likely just useful idiots.

Mastengwe ,

But they’re not useful at all. Even to the cause. They just make the whole agenda seem mindless and smug.

DarkThoughts ,

I wanted to do this one for a while now.

mp3 ,
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

lemmyverse.link/lemmy.world/post/14142948

For those on Lemmy who wish to access this post through their home instance

A_A ,
@A_A@lemmy.world avatar

Do this :
Settings >> Blocks >> Block instance : lemmy.ml

possiblylinux127 ,

There’s a few niche communities there

A_A ,
@A_A@lemmy.world avatar

ideally, when we subscribe to a community but we block the instance, the behavior of the software should be that we would see said community … but in fact, I really don’t know what Lemmy software does in those cases.

aleph , (edited )
@aleph@lemm.ee avatar

I was also banned from [email protected] and had comments removed for “Re-enforcing neo-liberal cultural hegemony” and “Believes in objectivity in media lmao”.

My offense? Saying that a report sourced solely from an eye-witness account via Al-Jazeera regarding another massacre of civilians and aid workers in Gaza needed to be corroborated by further evidence before we regard it as hard fact. The irony is I’m very much pro-Palestinan.

According to the mods, however, that apparently means I have to throw all media literacy out of the window and blindly accept any anti-Israel claims without question.

gigachad ,

That community is wild, but the discussion over Gaza over there is fucking crazy. Al Jazeera is one of their more credible sources, you can find articles from websites nobody every heard of, small blogs that state IDF soldiers are eating babies. And that is no exaggeration, that was the last thing I read before I left that community…

aleph ,
@aleph@lemm.ee avatar

Exactly what prompted me to comment, since the blog that sourced Al-Jazeera also added certain details that didn’t seem based on anything like actual evidence. Although I admit it wasn’t anything near as extreme as the IDF canibalizing babies.

If we must call out pro-Israel propaganda that makes outrageous, unsubstantiated claims like that, we must do the same for pro-Palestinian propaganda, regardless of how we personally feel about the conflict.

Seasoned_Greetings ,

I start almost every comment I make on those instances with

I know this will net me a ban

to play a bit of reverse psychology with the mods there, who don’t touch my comments when the denizens there inevitablely say

Oh yeah you think you’re so smart well we don’t ban opposing opinions unlike some places

And the mods there have their hands tied because banning me would prove their own guys wrong.

It’s worked pretty well so far.

Mastengwe ,

This…… is fucking brilliant.

Railcar8095 ,

There’s such a polarization and paranoia that any comment that’s not 100% unwavering support is considered an attack.

possiblylinux127 , (edited )

Time for an alternate community

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

The irony of a communist banning someone over “McCarthyism” when what the banned user said was not even close to McCarthyism, making the mod action itself McCarthyism.

They’ve become the very thing they hate!

possiblylinux127 ,

You were suppose to destroy the Sith, not join them

joyjoy ,

Everything I don’t like is McCarthyism

TheBat ,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t like gourd veggies. Is that McCarthyism too?

Dempf ,

This engine is McCarthyism.

Delphia ,

Oh is this the new “Gaslighting”?

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works avatar

This is why I’ll personally never donate to the Lemmy devs. I could never bring myself to fund a tankie.

possiblylinux127 ,

They seem fairly chill as far as I can tell. Its some of the long time users that are the problem

poVoq ,
@poVoq@slrpnk.net avatar

Until you realize some of these long time users are likely sockpuppet accounts of said devs.

But I find it rather funny and in the end their political believes while themselves sitting right in the “imperial core” are harmless. Armchair tankies.

possiblylinux127 ,

Well, I don’t know. I just know that the devs seemed nice and friendly in the QA

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Ironically enough, there’s some actual McCarthyism going on in here.

YeetPics ,
@YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

Is the McCarthyism in the room with us now?

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Okay sockpuppet boi

Wrench ,

It is pretty exhausting fighting their subtle tankie arguments over and over, lest someone more impressionable only see their bullshit and believe it.

maynarkh ,

I am really tired to hear “Global South” over and over again.

masquenox ,

I am really tired to hear “Global South” over and over again.

We are perfectly aware that beneficiaries of colonisation (like you) would like us here in the Global South to just shut up and give you our resources and labour for absolutely nothing - so there’s no need to say the quiet part out loud, okay?

tal ,
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

We are perfectly aware that beneficiaries of colonisation (like you)

Pretty sure that the guy you’re talking to is from a small country somewhere in Eastern Europe.

maynarkh ,

Lol, I grew up on a Russian colony. Was not fun.

That said, my thing with “Global South” is that it pretends the country with the highest GDP in the world is an “underdog”, and it tries to sell that through its supposed tight alliance with its less fortunate members. By what measure is China or Russia “the South”? Maybe it’s just them trying to sell that they are so oppressed.

And their alliance is so tight that Putin wasn’t allowed on the latest BRICS summit because ZA thought their ties with the ICC are more important than Putin.

It’s just an “actually, we are the victims” circlejerk, based on some fragile semi-alliances and pretending that China is not absolutely dominating the whole thing.

masquenox ,

By what measure is China or Russia “the South”?

Russia certainly was after the fall of the USSR - whether it still is is open to debate. China is an active exploiter of the “Global South” - which kind of means the concept is overdue for an update.

ZA thought their ties with the ICC are more important

Nahh, they didn’t want another repeat of the al-Bashir debacle. South Africa’s ANC regime will bend over backwards for the west and especially western corporations - but the US forgot that they will only do so behind closed doors.

Wrench ,

Rofl. I was wondering why I couldn’t see the other reply to you, and realized it might because I already blocked that user. Went to incognito, and yep, blocked that rabid user a while ago.

I recommend doing the same. I forgot “Global South” was even a term used here.

DarkThoughts ,

It's not the only one but one of the bigger reasons why I don't use Lemmy.

FartsWithAnAccent ,
@FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io avatar

I didn't let that prevent me from using Lemmy, however, I found that I liked Mbin a lot better. Fedia.io has become my favorite forum type website.

possiblylinux127 ,

I’m glad we don’t use Lemmy, oh wait

DarkThoughts ,

I literally don't.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

If you post a comment to a Lemmy instance, are you using Lemmy?

possiblylinux127 ,

Federation

DarkThoughts ,

Only if I do it through Lemmy (the software). Or would you say you are on mbin because you replied to my comment?

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Hmm, probably not. If I was on a community based on mbin though, maybe?

possiblylinux127 ,

Well you use it passively at least.

Although that also means you technically use Mastodon.

DarkThoughts ,

Maybe its communities but that's a bit weird too because in the end it's more the ActivityPub protocol that we all share the use of. Ultimately I'm neither on Lemmy nor Mastodon, but their content gets federated with the platform I'm using.

possiblylinux127 ,

What a time to be alive.

Kedly ,

How am I reading this comment then?

tal , (edited )
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

Lemmy isn’t the only Threadiverse server implementation, though it’s the most-widely used. There’s kbin, of which kbin.social is the largest instance, mbin, of which fedia.io is the largest example – and the user you’re talking to is on fedia.io – and some others.

mbin.fediverse.observer/list

kbin.fediverse.observer/list

Mbin is IIRC a fork of kbin aimed at getting features in more-quickly.

github.com/MbinOrg/mbin

Those guys are written in PHP.

There’s PieFed, which is in Python:

piefed.fediverse.observer/list

github.com/Jelloeater/pyfedi

Sublinks, which is in Java:

github.com/sublinks

Kedly ,

Oh, interesting! Thanks for enlightening me!

DarkThoughts ,

Because our servers & software that we're using are federated.

NOT_RICK ,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

Babe, wake up; a new .ml wrongthink euphemism dropped

Rhynoplaz ,

Usually I hop in these threads ready to tell people why they deserve to be banned, but dang. There is nothing wrong, ethically or factually, in what you said.

alcoholicorn ,

Not saying he should have been banned, but factually it was wrong, the FRG was mostly staffed by “former” Nazis. A lot of Germans saw it that way, see Baader-Meinhof.

Also it’s disingenuous to call one of the biggest arms manufacturers who supplied arms to some of the worst regimes, Israel, Sudan, Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, Russia “pacifist”.

possiblylinux127 ,

Frankly everything these days is a matter of option. You aren’t going to get anywhere by trying to force an issue. A mod should simply let the community correct any factual errors so they are not getting involved.

To be fair discussing politics online was a disaster on day one

NOT_RICK ,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

Sure would be nice if your instance would allow you to rebut op with your view of the situation rather than scrub their comment and ban them. Lemmy needs more content to grow and over active jannies don’t help on that front.

barsoap ,

see Baader-Meinhof

Yep the whole thing was, in retrospect, the second wave of denazification. Less so about the actual ideology, but deeper attitudes underpinning it. Things like the Jubelperser incident are completely unthinkable nowadays. The attitude by far isn’t dead yet as you can see e.g. when it comes to the reaction to Extinction Rebellion but it’s quite a ways from its former harshness and unquestioned acceptance.

And just for the record: The RAF’s methods were never in any way popular. A cultish splinter group of a splinter group with very problematic internal dynamics not taking long to be more occupied with employing terrorism to free its members from prison than with any political struggle. Lots of issues with the urban guerilla in general, CCK Philosophy has an essay about it.

Reducing the whole 68 movement in Germany to the RAF would be doing it a great disservice.

tal ,
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

And just for the record: The RAF’s methods were never in any way popular.

I have to say that it’s kind of annoying that the Red Army Faction shares an acronym with the Royal Air Force. Every time I see the thing, I do a momentary double-take.

barsoap ,

They themselves couldn’t even get the name straight, in German publications they used Rote Armee Fraktion, in English Red Army Faction. The distinction between fraction and faction is the exact same in German and English (fraction is a mere part of a unified whole, while a faction disagrees with the rest of the whole, to put it simply).

DragonTypeWyvern ,

One of their mods banned me for pointing out that Chiang Kai-Shek genocided the communists in China before the Long March. Sometimes they hurt themselves in their confusion.

fuckingkangaroos ,

It’s just a job for them, at the end of the day.

ptz , (edited )
@ptz@dubvee.org avatar

worldnews at .ml is a dumpster fire. First community I had to completely scrub from my instance because it was just so toxic from top to bottom.

Edit: Also, will share my last comment there before I self-banned and purged that cesspit from my instance. This is in reply to someone making a fat joke about Kim Jong Un:

https://tesseract.dubvee.org/image_proxy/dubvee.org/pictrs/image/04080bde-a25c-4e59-9d4f-42749df9836e.webp

Good 'ol ambiguous Rule 1 lol

Lemminary ,

You too, huh!

possiblylinux127 ,

What you didn’t realize is that Kim Jong II is actually the mod

breakfastmtn ,
@breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca avatar

https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/b8a8ac91-72bc-4417-8bf6-7c1bb901e2e6.png

ptz ,
@ptz@dubvee.org avatar

Margaret Cho played the absolute hell out of that role 😆

DarkThoughts ,

I tried to give that instance the benefit of the doubt at first, but I just block all lemmy.ml communities when I see them now. There's just too much user and ideology overlap with lemmygrad and hexbear. The worldnews sub was especially bad though. Disinformation & insults everywhere, but they're never removed despite reports, because they're part of their side & agenda. It's basically lemmygrad in disguise.

tal ,
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

I don’t block them, but I use non-ml communities in preference to ml-based communities. I don’t think that I’m currently subscribed to any ml-based communities.

XEAL ,

Fucking mods, this is Reddit all over again.

And fuck off whoever that tells me again to set up my own instance. What I want is popular instance admins and mods to pull out the stick out of their asses, because free speech instances that get defederated at the speed of light are of no use.

And there’s no seamless multiaccount Lemmy client yet.

/rant

livus ,
@livus@kbin.social avatar

And fuck off whoever that tells me again to set up my own instance. What I want is popular instance admins and mods to

Seriously though you're making demands that other people work for free in a manner that will benefit you.

Way I see it, either take some of the free lunch that's on offer or make your own.

tal , (edited )
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

free speech instances that get defederated at the speed of light are of no use.

I use lemmy.today. The instance policy there is to try to avoid any defederation, and thus far, it has an empty blocklist.

Now, that doesn’t mean that there won’t also be instances that will defederate with your favorite instance. But, you know, people aren’t required to listen. You can only speak to people who want to hear what you want to say. I think that that’s probably really the only reasonable way for things to work. I mean, even user-level user blocking and choosing what communities to view is a form of filtering content.

Viking_Hippie OP ,

And there’s no seamless multiaccount Lemmy client yet.

…except all of them. At least for Android.

Here’s the one’s I’ve used with seamless multiaccount functionality: Liftoff (RIP), Jerboa, Thunder, Connect, Boost, and Voyager

Sync too, but I only used it briefly because fuck ads.

XEAL ,

Yeah… no. Jerboa has no seamless multiaccount. You can have multiple accounts in Jerboa, but you have to switch from one to another.

I want a client that can be logged on to multiple accounts at once and display a unified feed of all of them. Technically complex, but not impossible.

I was indeed told about Liftoff before, but doesn’t seem to work with instances such as lemm.ee

Viking_Hippie OP ,

I want a client that can be logged on to multiple accounts at once and display a unified feed of all of them.

…why would you want that? Sounds like there’d be a lot of overlap and confusion…

tal ,
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

I want a client that can be logged on to multiple accounts at once and display a unified feed of all of them.

If I had to guess, it’s that someone wants to keep content that Account 1 deals with separate from content that Account 2 deals with without needing to manually flip back and forth.

Like, someone may not want to associate their identity on !cs_career_questions with their identity on !femdom, in much the same way that in real life, they (presumably) wouldn’t have videos of the latter playing in their office when talking with people about the former.

Viking_Hippie OP ,

Yeah, I get the separation thing. That’s why I don’t get wanting to combine them top Lol.

If I had a clean account that I might sometimes use at work, the LAST thing I’d want would be for it to seamlessly combine with my porn alt or whatever lol

tal ,
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

Well, yeah, but I was thinking less about “browsing the Threadiverse in the office”, and more “person is at home and wanting all the content at once”. Like, the concern is less people who are physically present and more that one wants to keep online relationships separate.

I mean, I dunno. I can understand the idea, at any rate. I’ve posted (pretty tame) AI-generated pornography when aiming to highlight that Stable Diffusion’s regional prompting feature could be used to generate porn, and remember thinking “eh, it might be a good idea to stick this on a separate account”, but didn’t ultimately care enough. But I can definitely see someone wanting to separate spheres of of their online life. I mean, to greater or lesser extent, people act differently with their parents, their coworkers, their kids, their spouse, etc. It’d be a little odd if things were different online.

XEAL ,

It would be the closest to bypass defederation client-side.

Sounds like there’d be a lot of overlap and confusion…

Not if the client was properly designed. Content ovelap/duplication could be handled by prioritizing one instance over others, and if two accounts have acces to the same instance, there could be a prompt letting you to choose the account to post from or also an option to prioritize accounts.

It’s complex but doable.

Viking_Hippie OP ,

This is the comment and of course toothy banned me for 3 days too.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/44fd0562-ed24-4371-aabd-8e269a56201f.jpeg

Just like they did for “sinophobia” when I expressed misgivings about Chinese and Hungarian cops joining forces 🤦

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/e880a7ae-b22e-4768-ae0e-aab1de3e4179.jpeg

ptz ,
@ptz@dubvee.org avatar

That’s like that meme post from a few years ago where it’s like (paraphrased):

Person 1: “I can’t stand homophobes”

Person 2: How dare you insult Christians like that.

Person 1: I never said “Christians”. You jumped on that grenade all by yourself.

TexMexBazooka ,

I got banned for “orientalism”, whatever that is

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Treating Asian culture or people as a particular stereotype.

Serinus ,

Criticizing China in any way.

TexMexBazooka ,

Ahhh now that adds up

livus ,
@livus@kbin.social avatar

Orientalism is this stuff.

Idk I personally enjoy seeing terms I learned in grad school being thrown around in a mod log.

Paradigm shifts keep the brain nimble.

TexMexBazooka ,

This is the comment in question, for what it’s worth

livus ,
@livus@kbin.social avatar

I can't see the whole comment.

Besides which it's a qualitative judgment so unless they did a full on Content Analysis grid on your ass, I'd probably not know what they meant, unless you were doing something really obvious like calling the Chinese "inscrutible".

I still kind of enjoy the novelty of seeing mods censor people for this arcane stuff. I wouldn't want to be on that instance but I quite like visiting it.

TexMexBazooka ,

I believe it was in reference to a comment about Mao and Stalin

maynarkh ,

Just like they did for “sinophobia” when I expressed misgivings about Chinese and Hungarian cops joining forces 🤦

Just love the thing where they twist any criticism of the Chinese state into perceived hate for Chinese people, but are so apprehensive when Israel tries to do the same. It’s reprehensible.

lennybird ,
@lennybird@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah that’s some petty bullshit.

Side note but I really appreciate the mod log feature.

Viking_Hippie OP ,

Yeah, me too. It’s a great feature!

AlexSup21 ,

If only we could see mod names in the modlog…

Viking_Hippie OP ,

You can in a link from your profile tab in Voyager, that’s were I got the dark mode screenshot from 🙂

AlexSup21 ,

Oh, that’s cool. But it would be cooler if it was visible in the instances’ modlog aswell

https://iusearchlinux.fyi/pictrs/image/02de677f-50e8-4a7f-a4fb-62d779035d2b.jpeg

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