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Daxtron2 , in I ordered my daughter a pizza, something I don't usually do. I got Domino's smallest size with two toppings. I got her cheese sticks and two sauces and tipped the driver 20%. $31.07.

Thats why I always go for a local shop, it ends up being the same price and better

StaySquared , in I ordered my daughter a pizza, something I don't usually do. I got Domino's smallest size with two toppings. I got her cheese sticks and two sauces and tipped the driver 20%. $31.07.

You are the parent of your daughter… yet she dictates to you what she eats?

There’s your problem to begin with. You know what happened when I refused to eat what my mother made? Dealt with it… by not eating anything.

Yeah yeah here comes the downvotes from non-parents and parents who don’t know how to parent.

Also, thanks Biden. The economy is doing GRRRRRREAAT!

FJB.

FlyingSquid OP , (edited )
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Intentionally denying food to a child is child abuse. So I hope you are a non-parent if that is how you think you should treat children.

Edit: Oh wait, I forgot, I’m the abusive parent here.

StaySquared ,

Intentionally? No… they have two options. Eat was has been made or don’t. It is THEIR decision. lmao “child abuse”. Goodness that’s weak af.

FlyingSquid OP , (edited )
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

How would you like it if someone said to you, eat this thing you can’t stand or go hungry? Because that’s the choice you’re giving. Eat something that makes them feel sick and disgusted or starve.

People are allowed to not like certain foods. Why do you think it’s acceptable to give any human being the choice to eat what you want them to eat or don’t eat? That’s literally how they punish prisoners. Look up nutraloaf.

StaySquared ,

If the food is literally giving them sickness, that’s one thing. Tell me, are parents in African tribes abusing their children when they give their children only two options, eat or don’t? How about parents in war torn nations? I’m not giving my kids the luxury, that’s not how many of us around the world, outside of the Western world roll.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Which African tribes?

Holyginz ,

It’s a troll. I doubt they have a kid or married based on their responses. And if they do I feel bad for them. Most of the time if the comment is overly antagonistic they just want to get a rise out of someone since their life is empty and it’s the only way they can feel a spark of enjoyment in their life. You have done literally nothing wrong here and you don’t owe anyone an explanation.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Thank you.

Holyginz ,

Absolutely. I am not very good at it myself, but the best way to deal with these people is to ignore them. Without attention they get bored and do other stuff. Either that or you fight their nasty by being nasty in return. But they have no shame so you kind of have to sink to their level. I will admit I do that from time to time myself to release steam, but its not great for your mental state to do it a lot. Sorry about the ton of unsolicited advice, I just hate seeing it when trolls are tormenting people about things they have no business talking about.

FarmTaco ,

UP HILL, BOTH WAYS, IN THE SNOW

LordGimp ,

A child with agency?!? Making decisions?!?? Not in MY white fright dystopia they wont!! I was abused and therefore I am entitled to abuse any child I see, because I am a child in my mind! Why would I ever address my own deficiencies when I have a political figure to scapegoat every decade or so?

StaySquared ,

I’m Latino, wife is Arab… we are not the same as you gringos. Your child has authority over you, we have authority over our children. This is the way.

Stay salty.

Holyginz ,

Children obeying you because they are afraid of being beaten isn’t having authority over them. Its abuse, but sure, fall back on racism to feel superior.

StaySquared ,

Someone should have called you out for claiming, I used, “beating” or that my children are afraid in general of me and or their mother… Instead you got upvotes… dafuq is wrong with your reading comprehension? You high? Too much my little pony?

Holyginz ,

Sure sure, keep going. You are TOTALLY getting back at me. Go on, keep trying the tough guy act. If nothing else it’s amusing.

PythagreousTitties ,

No one likes you, that’s all.

Nicoleism101 ,

🍿

madcaesar ,

You were making a good point then went batshit 🤷‍♂️

henfredemars , in My laptop hinge just ripped its screws right out.

Oh I hate these shitty joints that are designed to fail eventually. It’s just not made to last.

BeardedGingerWonder ,

Counterpoint, sometimes stuff is designed to break so something else more critical of expensive to replace does not.

EddoWagt ,

Sure, but in this case that’s just not true

socphoenix , in My laptop hinge just ripped its screws right out.

JB weld epoxy might be a good choice if you either don’t plan on replacing the screen again, or to recreate the holes and patch the cracks if you pull it all the way apart again. I did it to the back of a tv when the vesa screw mounts ripped and it held for another 5 years.

Tippon OP ,

I’ve been looking at replacing the mounts with brass ones, but as it’s an old laptop, I should be able to get a replacement case for around £40. I don’t really want to spend any more, but if I can get the case I’m going to go down that route :)

socphoenix ,

For sure take the case if it’s affordable! It’ll look much nicer afterwards too

bl_r , in I ordered my daughter a pizza, something I don't usually do. I got Domino's smallest size with two toppings. I got her cheese sticks and two sauces and tipped the driver 20%. $31.07.

Dominos is outrageously expensive if you don’t shop the deals.

When I was in college, I’d get dominos with my roommates when they had the 20$ special, which would be about 30$ after tip and delivery. The special had 2 medium pizzas, garlic knots, cinnamon twists, and soda.

After I moved back home, I learned my local dominos doesn’t always have that deal. I’d get something similar to what you got and I’d be upset that I got less food for a bit more…

Now what really pisses me off is the high end neopolitan place near me is cheaper on their dinner special days, where you can get 2 personal pizzas that taste so good I’d accept it as proof that god is real for about 25$ including tips and gas money.

Serinus ,

It’s tiered pricing. All the chains are doing it now. Jump through hoops or pay double.

Concave1142 , in My laptop hinge just ripped its screws right out.

This happened on a decent spec’d HP laptop I bought my mom a couple years back. No easy way to repair without ordering new hinges that were impossible to find and the PC repair shop quoted over $500 repair on a $700 laptop when it was new.

Now she just leaves the laptop open in the 180 degree position with the laptop being held into a stand & bungie cord strapped to it to prevent it from falling foward. It is now a desktop PC and no longer a laptop.

herrcaptain ,

I assume she’s using a separate keyboard/mouse, right? Though I’m enjoying the mental picture of someone trying to touch type on a vertical keyboard.

Concave1142 ,

I did not want to deal with the remote IT support of it all, so I plugged in a mouse/keyboard and a second monitor to make it more like a desktop PC setup, lol.

herrcaptain ,

That’s the way to do it. I used a broken laptop like that as my daily driver for a few years after losing my desktop and being unable to replace it.

Tippon OP ,

I was debating doing something similar, and putting it behind the TV to replace the Fire Stick, but I’ve found what looks like compatible plastics on ebay. My base has broken quite badly too, so replacing both is going to be my best bet.

Daft question, but have you tried ebay for the hinges, or a spares or repairs listing?

Concave1142 ,

I gave it a very short search back when it broke last year. I went with the cheapest way to get it back up and running which was just convert it to a desktop. She never goes anywhere with a laptop in the first place so there was no need to make it portable again.

She’s retired and just used it to surf the web. A Chromebook would work perfectly for her if she was not dead set of having Excel for her recipes and bill tracking.

Tippon OP ,

Fair enough :)

She sounds similar to my mother. She’s got a laptop that never moves too, but refuses to consider a desktop 🤷🏻‍♂️

pearsaltchocolatebar ,

You could also just keep it closed and set it to do nothing on screen close. Then enable WoL.

My work laptop lives under my router, and I just remote into it daily.

IMongoose , in My laptop hinge just ripped its screws right out.

At least it didn’t crack the screen with the bad hinge. I think it happens when the screws get a little loose and the angles shift. I work k-12 edu and have seen hundreds of Chromebooks do this.

Tippon OP ,

Don’t scare me, I haven’t fixed it yet 😅

IMongoose ,

You’re already working on it so you’re good. We’ve just had kids ignore it too long which causes more issues. Just don’t force it lol.

Serious_Me , in My laptop hinge just ripped its screws right out.

I used to work in a computer repair shop. Unfortunately this is a lot more common than you might think, and it’s almost always due to poor quality plastic and nothing to do with the end user. Sadly I’ve yet to see a case where this is covered under the warranty either, but it’s worth a shot if you want to go through the headache of their customer support.

You can try epoxy like someone else mention, but it comes with a few problems you might encounter. First you can’t put too much epoxy or it’ll spill over onto the computer components (which could damage them) and as a result it may not hold. Second, even if it does hold you’re putting it over screws, which means you most likely won’t be able to remove those screws down the road if you ever have to repair or upgrade it.

You could also just leave the laptop permanently open and never touch the hinge. Some people already this anyways with their devices so for them it’s not worth the hassle. As long as nothing else is damaged and you’re careful with it, this can work too.

Ultimately, the best solution is to just replace the plastic casing part where it ripped out of, which is usually either the housing around the keyboard and track-pad, or the one behind the LCD. Sadly because all the parts are likely made with poor quality plastic this is likely to happen again down the road. In your case it looks like the former, the housing around the keyboard. For some devices the keyboard isn’t easily removable from this housing, so it’s probably going to require you replace the keyboard as well, unless you like dealing with tiny rivets.

Oh, and you probably don’t need to replace the hinge itself. like I said it’s usually the brittle plastic in the housing that’s at fault, not the hinge seizing and refusing to move.

Tippon OP ,

This is years out of warranty, it’s a 7th gen i5 :)

The photo is of the top part of the laptop base, so where the keyboard is, but from underneath. The base below it was already broken, which is what put the extra strain on the top.

As you say, I should be able to put some epoxy on and hold it together, as none of this needs to be removed again. I’ve got a new base coming, so as long as the pictured piece doesn’t move, it should be fine :)

BzzBiotch , in My laptop hinge just ripped its screws right out.
@BzzBiotch@lemmy.world avatar

Laptop repair guy here! This problem is common in consumer grade laptops. As far as I am concerned, it’s purposefully weakly designed, because these break a LOT.

Not the hinge is broken, but the mounting points for the screws that keep the hinge in place. Sometimes it breaks on the bottom case, sometimes it breaks on the screen side.

We fix these issues regularly with epoxy (and massive skillz, lol). With most hinges, you can adjust the force a little lighter to relieve the pressure on the mounting points. That way it doesn’t fail again, after repair.

JoShmoe ,

How can I adjust the force?

scrion ,

by loosening the screws of the hinge.

JoShmoe ,

Is it possible that some hinges have hidden screws or use a different mechanism?

scrion , (edited )

Yes, absolutely. Not all hinges are adjustable, unfortunately. In fact, I’d argue that most are not. Just have a look at the hinges at your place (doors, cabinets, toilet seat etc.), most will be very simple mechanisms with no inbuilt adjustment.

You can adjust the play mechanically, of course - that is, through application of a certain amount of force via deformation, which can be a destructive process if not done carefully.

There are hinges that expose an axial screw that allows for precise adjustment of hinge friction, but I have not seen those used for laptop display lids (nor did I personally encounter those in the small dimensions you would find on a laptop) . You’ll find examples of those at Misumi or McMaster - Carr.

If your goal is to increase the friction in your laptop’s display lid hinges, you might find that simply tightening all screws of and around the hinge often does the trick. Even though the main axial screw is not meant to be user accessible, it serves basically the same function and can tighten up the hinge. Tightening the screws used for mounting will ensure the lid doesn’t wobble. You will have to (partially) take your laptop apart for that, naturally.

If your hinge doesn’t have an axial screw at all and uses, let’s say a pin, you might have to employ another method, but that would really depend on the actual mechanism being used.

Tippon OP ,

As far as I can see without stripping everything yet, it looks like it’s a pin. I might just have to clean and lube it, and hope for the best.

TotalFat ,

Let the hate flow through you!

JoShmoe ,

I just barely got this joke. Nice one

TotalFat ,

Actually if you want a serious answer, I usually try to apply force as close to the hinge as possible when opening and closing the lid. This way the full length of the screen isn’t acting as a lever multiplying the force on the relatively short span of the hinge mounting bracket.

I definitely agree this is too common a problem not to be by design.

steal_your_face ,
@steal_your_face@lemmy.ml avatar

This is why I love the idea of framework laptops

GbyBE ,

Indeed, different price point though, but shouldn’t be more expensive in the long run. I like what they’re doing and live my AMD 13

scrion ,

This is correct and good advice. I’d like to add that it’s also an option to glue in a threaded metal insert in case a self - tapping plastic screw was used and the original thread is stripped.

improbablypoopingrn ,

I just used the threaded metal inserts and seat them with the soldering iron to use orignal screws and have had great luck

Edit/ I should clarify that it’s been a few years since I’ve done one of these repairs and may not be the best option on a newer/slimmer model

pearsaltchocolatebar ,

Yup, I do a lot of 3d printed projects and use these all the time. They’re great

scrion , (edited )

Absolutely, if there is enough plastic left, melting is one of the best options. That also enables mending plastic by melting in metal pins or strips via a cheap plastic welder for 10 bucks (success can be great, but it’s highly dependent on the geometry and how things broke).

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/76adf99e-3285-4eb8-8086-7615962f8be1.png

Edit: no, as I said, that’s absolutely fine if there is a chunk of sturdy plastic to accept the insert. I just wanted to present another plastic repair technique for the sake of completeness, if somebody stumbles into this comment section.

grue ,

As far as I am concerned, it’s purposefully weakly designed, because these break a LOT.

Could be sacrificial because the plastic case is cheaper/easier to replace than whatever else would break instead of it were stronger.

Wogi ,

Probably more so cheaper to mold the plastic case with weak threads than any other function.

Tabzlock ,

No I think its just cheaper, if it was stronger you normally would have a metal plate or the entire base would be metal. The only time I have seen those fail was actually the hinges themselves and not the attachment points. If the metal plate or base somehow got severely damaged I doubt it would cost much more to repair and its still unlikely to damage anything else.

Wogi ,

Machinist guy here!

Threads fail. Threads are generally the most likely thing to fail in any given mechanism. Generally, when the threads are expected to do more work than just sit there and not move, as in fastening a hinge for example, we try to make sure the threads are all the same kind of material.

I would never expect plastic threads to hold up to repeated use with an iron bolt inside. Something is going to give up, and it’s going to be the soft plastic threads, every single time.

Think about cheap as fuck IKEA furniture, any time they have a bolt to screw in, you install an insert first. We do the same thing in plastic, aluminum, shit even steel sometimes if we want the bolt to fail first.

NosferatuZodd ,

I believe you misunderstood the problem, the threads are not usually the problem, the problem is the brass heat insert the hinge threads into, the insert just breaks off the plastic with the screw still threaded in, usually because the hinge is a bit too tight/rigid and puts a lot of force into the insert pulling it out

this seems to be the case in this picture as well

charade_you_are ,

I very much hated working on hinge damage.

Tippon OP ,

Yep, it’s the mounting point here. As someone pointed out below, the insert that holds the screw has ripped out of the plastic. The base of the laptop was already broken, so put extra pressure on this part.

I’m going to strip everything out and epoxy the inserts back in place, then epoxy over the bottom part of the hinge once the screws are in. The laptop should never need to be opened again, so a bit of overkill won’t hurt here.

I’m going to try to loosen the hinge slightly too, but it looks like a pin design rather than a screw, so it might just be a case of cleaning and lubing it instead.

JohnnyCache , in My laptop hinge just ripped its screws right out.

You’ve gotta get those screws to the right torque after taking it apart. Too loose OR too tight and you’ve sealed your fate.

kitnaht , in My laptop hinge just ripped its screws right out.

Honestly, this looks like it would be repairable with the appropriate sized heat-press insert, and a longer screw. Granted, things are pretty tight in that area; but it looks like there is enough beef left on the underside to repair this ‘properly’.

Tippon OP ,

It’s hard to see from this photo, but the area below the insert is quite thin. It’s a bit wider than the screw, but with some supports. I don’t know if there’s enough to take a new insert.

My plan is to clean everything up, then epoxy the existing inserts in place, screw the hinge in, then put some epoxy around that too, leaving room for the other screws that come from the other side of the case.

steersman2484 , in My laptop hinge just ripped its screws right out.

Did you open it without the backplate on?

Anyways this is crappy anti consumer design by the manufacturer.

Romkslrqusz , (edited )

I don’t understand why you were downvoted for asking this question. I’ve literally watched techs cause this damage by trying to open the lid with the back cover screws removed.

Most laptops have at least one screw on each side that goes through both the back cover and the hinge. If the hinge is normally affixed with 3 screws and you open the lid with one missing, each mount is taking on that extra stress.

Best practice is to reinstall those screws before opening the lid with the back cover removed.

steersman2484 ,

I broke a hinge myself that way, learned it the hard way

Tippon OP ,

Yes and no. The backplate was attached but broken, and I didn’t realise that the broken piece was where the third screw for the hinge was.

In fairness to the manufacturer, this is a 7th gen i5, and it was doing great until my wife ‘definitely didn’t drop it’ on the corner >.<

Quills , in My laptop hinge just ripped its screws right out.
@Quills@sh.itjust.works avatar

ooh my old laptop had a problem like this too, but instead of ripping off it just got so rigid it would probably completely destroy the whole hull if i tried to force it open, to “fix” it, me and my cousin just opened the laptop and (carefully /s) completely removed the hinges (or at least the part of it that connects to the base of the laptop), now it is right beside me here hosting a jellyfin server with the screen being propped up only by a wi-fi router >:3

Tippon OP ,

That was going to be its fate if I couldn’t get the parts :)

Iloveyurianime , in My laptop hinge just ripped its screws right out.

This is why if you need a budget laptop get something from a used business line like lenovo thinkpad dell latitude and hp elitebooks these will have far better quality and be (in some cases) more easy to repair

Tippon OP ,

In fairness to them, this is a Stonebook branded Clevo laptop, and it’s a 7th gen i5, so it’s been doing well :)

perishthethought , in Look what I got to spend my birthday money on!

Happy Birthday to us!

It’s a drag being an American sometimes, eh? (me too)

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks! Happy birthday!

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