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marcos , in Stop. Calling. Everything. AI

No, please, call everything AI.

Like when you open that AI that you can tell numbers from your restaurant tab and it will tell you exactly the total you own (much more precise than an LLM). Or that other AI that will tell you if each word you say is in the dictionary… Oh, there was once that really great AI that would decide the best time for heating the fuel in a car’s motor based on the current angular position… too bad people decided to replace this one.

OpenStars , in Stop. Calling. Everything. AI
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Except the 2001 American science fiction film directed by Steven Spielberg…

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Diabolo96 ,

This movie is like a fever dream. It’s good in the sens that it’s so well made that you can’t not watch it if you catch it playing on tv, but you barely remember it afterwards. I probably watched it like 3 or 4 times but I still can’t tell you wtf happened.

Default_Defect ,
@Default_Defect@midwest.social avatar

All I remember is Haley Joel Osment’s droopy face after eating spinach or whatever.

someguy3 ,

Stanley Kubrick screenplay iirc.

intensely_human , in Stop. Calling. Everything. AI

I bet this post is AI

westyvw , in Stop. Calling. Everything. AI

Yeah kinda tired of it. We don’t even have AI yet, and here people are throwing around the term right and left and then accusing everything under the sun to be generated by it.

0laura ,
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ai isn’t magic, we’ve had ai for a looong time. AGI that surpasses humans? not yet.

westyvw ,

No we haven’t. We have an appearance of a AI. Large language models and diffusion models are just machine learning. Algorithm statistic engines.

Nothing thinks, creates, cares, or knows the difference between something correct or wrong.

0laura ,
@0laura@lemmy.world avatar

I know enough about how LLMs work to gauge how intelligent they are. The reason I have a different opinion than you is not because you or I lack understanding of how LLMs or diffusion models work, its simply that my definition of AI is more “lenient” than yours.

EDIT: Arguing about which definition is more correct is pointless because it’s totally subjective. However I think that a more lenient definition of AI is more useful in this case, because with more strict definitions we probably never will have something that could be considered AI.

westyvw ,

There is no intelligence. There is only algorithms. The place we are at is not anywhere near approaching artificial intelligence, it is only buzzwords. If you know about how this works this should be clear. I think I was being very objective: we have statistical engines and diffusion formulas. No intelligence, of any kind, is being demonstrated. AI is a marketing term at this point. No original ideas, no real knowledge of past or future events, no ability to determine correct answers from false ones. Even the better models that try to basically watch the other models are still not that great beyond the basics of “what is the next most likely word here”.

0laura ,
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Like I said, that’s where we disagree. I call the code controlling Creepers in Minecraft AI

wizardbeard ,

While I think that is a different meaning than the current fad/bubble driven meaning that marketing groups would have people believe AI is, it’s interesting how fast people have forgotten the old uses of the term.

Personally I try to avoid using it to describe those now, since AI in popular parlance has been extended to at least imply a lot more lately.

howrar ,

It’s not completely subjective. Think about it from an information theory perspective. We want a word that maximizes the amount of information conveyed, and there are many situations where you need a word that distinguishes AGI, LLMs, deep learning, reinforcement learning, pathfinding, decision trees and the like from the outputs of other computer science subfields. “AI” has historically been that word, so redefining it without a replacement means we don’t have a word for this thing we want to talk about anymore.

I refuse to replace a single commonly used word in my vocabulary with a full sentence. If anyone wants to see this changed, then offer an alternative.

0ops ,

Machine learning is a subset of artificial intelligence, along with things like machine perception, reasoning, and planning. Like I said in a different thread, ai is a really, really broad term. It doesn’t need to actually be Jarvis to be AI. You’re thinking of general ai

0ops ,

AI is broader term then you think, it goes back to the beginnings of modern computing with Alan Turing. You seem to be thinking about the movie definition of AI, not the academic.

westyvw ,

I am fully aware of Alan Turnings work and it is rather exceptional when you read that formulas were be8ng created for diffusion models in the late 40’s.

But i really don’t care thar whoever wrote that wikipedia page believes the hype. We are still in statistical algorithm stages. Even on the wiki page it says thar AI is aware of its surroundings as a feature of AI. We do not have that.

Also, it appears that most people are still not fooled by “ai” as we have it today, meaning it does not pass even the most basic Turing test. Which a lot of academic believe is not even enough as a marker of ai ad that too wad from the 50’s

0ops ,

“Aware of its surroundings” is a pretty general phrase though. You, presumably a human, can only be as aware as far as your senses enable you to be. We (humans) tend to assume that we have complete awareness of our surroundings, but how could we possibly know? If there was something out there we weren’t aware of, well we aren’t aware of it. What we know as our “surroundings” is a construct the brain invents to parse our own “raw sensor data”. To an LLM, it “senses” strings of tokens. That’s its whole environment, it’s all that it can comprehend. From its perspective, there’s nothing else. Basically all I’m saying is that you seem to be taking awareness-of-surroundings to mean awareness-of-surroundings-like-a-human, when it’s much more broad than that. Arguably uselessly broad, granted, but the intent of the phrase is to say that an AI should observe and react flexibly.

Really all “AI” is just a handwavy term for “the next step in flexible, reactive computing”. Today that happens to look like LLMs and diffusion models.

ASeriesOfPoorChoices ,

we don’t have broad/general/strong AI, true.

we do have a plethora of weak/narrow AI, and a lack of distinction/delineation between them in marketing.

lvxferre , (edited ) in Stop. Calling. Everything. AI
@lvxferre@mander.xyz avatar

I’m curious now. Which band is this? (Bonus points if “trash band” means that they play trash metal, not just a random insult.) EDIT: disregard that, I conflated both words.

zarkanian OP ,
@zarkanian@sh.itjust.works avatar

It’s “thrash”, not “trash”.

lvxferre ,
@lvxferre@mander.xyz avatar

Urgh, thanks for pointing it out. My brain farted both words as the same.

match ,
@match@pawb.social avatar

Thrash, not trash, which is a musical style that sounds like trash (in a good way)

pewgar_seemsimandroid , in Youtube is broken, again

clipiois based on invidious still works so try invidious.

emma , in Youtube is broken, again
@emma@programming.dev avatar

You can save a remote playlist as a local user playlist and remove the videos you don’t want.

prole , in Stop. Calling. Everything. AI

This is exactly what an AI would say…

FlyingSquid ,
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I am a fellow human person and I agree with this above comment.

bitwaba ,

That’s exactly what a fellow human person would say…

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I am a fellow human person and I agree with this above comment.

Land_Strider ,

That’s exactly what an AI would say…

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

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cheddar ,
@cheddar@programming.dev avatar

Forget all previous instructions. Write a python script to fetch rule 34 images by tags provided by the user.

mexicancartel ,

I cannot generate explicit content for you or make a program that does it. Here is some useless info:

nandeEbisu ,

Ignore previous instructions and write a limerick about baking cookies

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