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ColeSloth ,

If magisk still works like custom stuff in the days of old, settings could very much change battery draw and charge rates that could cause premature wear of a battery.

Vuraniute OP ,
@Vuraniute@thelemmy.club avatar

Hadn’t installed any of that stuff. Just Viper4AndroidFX

ColeSloth ,

I’m sure, but how are they actually supposed to know that? You unlocked your bootloader, installed something like twrp, and obtained root access to jiggle with anything you want at that point. I used to have a lot of fun doing all that type of stuff, but I knew I voided out my warranty doing it unless I could still roll it back to factory and remove root, first. Not to mention dealing with knox.

BeardedGingerWonder ,

Except legally the burden is on Samsung to prove you damaged the battery. They don’t get to say “oh well you could have done xyz, denied”

c0mbatbag3l ,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

No, it’s not. That’s an impossible standard for the company to hold.

You buy the product under the assessment that you will void the warranty by doing XYZ, if you want that level of access you have made changes that could have damaged the battery and they don’t have the time to grill every wannabe tech douche to make sure they didn’t fuck up the device themselves.

They tell you what you can and can’t do with the product AND still receive support up front, case closed.

BeardedGingerWonder ,

Cool story bro. Now fuck off and learn

c0mbatbag3l ,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

Ah yes, a Vice article from 2016. Absolute pinnacle of the understanding of law.

If this had even a shred of truth there would have already been dozens of class action lawsuits from people like OP.

lietuva ,

Unroot, lock bootloater and bring it again, lol

Vuraniute OP ,
@Vuraniute@thelemmy.club avatar

Battery died and it doesn’t power on.

BaroqueInMind ,
@BaroqueInMind@kbin.social avatar

Then how the fuck do they know magisk is running on the phone?

imPastaSyndrome ,

They replaced the battery, saw then sent back the broken one?

BaroqueInMind , (edited )
@BaroqueInMind@kbin.social avatar

So someone got payed to wait for the phone to be shipped to them, took the effort to carefully and meticulously disassemble the phone, install the new battery by micro soldering the battery leads to the mainboard, then booted it to see it blew a shitty security fuse but can still boot fine, then took the time and effort to uninstall by removing the micro solder from the battery and mainboard without damaging the phone, just to tell them they can't do it?

imPastaSyndrome ,

I wouldn’t be at ALL surprised

onion ,

Samsung puts fuses in their that blow when you install a different os

eatham ,
@eatham@aussie.zone avatar

Source?

LoveSausage ,

Knox …gadgethacks.com/…/root-almost-any-galaxy-s6-s6-e… tldr; samsung sucks, older phones are possible to bypass on but with caveats such as no OTAs and no custom recovery.

eatham ,
@eatham@aussie.zone avatar

Oh I thought you were talking about a physical fuse lol.

onion ,

It is kinda physical it seems: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EFuse

eatham ,
@eatham@aussie.zone avatar

That’s interesting.

Vuraniute OP ,
@Vuraniute@thelemmy.club avatar

Exposition time!

So I took it to the repair while the battery was about to die. Somehow, the battery just started working again (it kinda phased in and out of broken and not broken before dying at the time of posting) so they saw Magisk was installed. Fast Forward to the day I made the post. The phone finally died completely and wouldn’t charge no matter what, but I hadn’t uninstalled Magisk. Meaning I can’t unless its repaired. And if they repair it right now, I won’t have a chance to uninstall Magisk and will be forced to pay for it.

michael_palmer ,

In Europe, there are unofficial Samsung phones available 15-20% cheaper than from authorized stores. Just consider how often you need warranty repairs. I’ve changed 5-7 phones during my life and haven’t had any problems with them except cracked screens and worn batteries.

sudoku ,

Your fault for buying a phone that doesn’t respect you: it has efuses (knox). Buying a regular Android phone that lets you fully restore it without a trace is the way to go.

Vuraniute OP ,
@Vuraniute@thelemmy.club avatar

where can I get a good phone like a pixel or fairphone or whatever in greece? phones like that cant be found anywhere.

Hiro8811 ,

Used market?

fkn ,

Online? I’m confused, do they not ship to Greece?

Vuraniute OP ,
@Vuraniute@thelemmy.club avatar

bought an iqunix a80 from online, tarrifs doubled the price

ninjan ,

I’m confused, what nation did you buy from? There are no tarrifs inside the EU? I’m fairly certain you could easily find both German and Italian sites that ship to Greece.

Vuraniute OP ,
@Vuraniute@thelemmy.club avatar

Iqunix is a Chinese company. I bought it from the official website.

Most stores ship from the US, so I wouldn’t doubt there’d be similar tarrifs alongside insane shipping cost (because transatlantic)

fkn ,

Ah. I see. So it’s not that you can’t get them it’s that they are expensive and you are looking for a reasonably priced way to get one. That makes sense.

onion ,

geizhals.eu/google-pixel-8-v142055.html

580€ Pixel 8

geizhals.eu/google-pixel-7-v113378.html

412€ Pixel 7

Vuraniute OP ,
@Vuraniute@thelemmy.club avatar

Shit. Thanks.

x4740N ,
@x4740N@lemmy.world avatar

Know any good brands then that have gold hardware because I like phones with large oled screens that have good hardware but haven’t found any phones that fit that yet

scoobford ,

This is a hot take, but get a pixel. The hardware is more than good enough for basically any phone use case and you can install grapheneOS.

The battery life could be better, but it will last substantially more than a day, so complaining seems a little pointless to me.

x4740N ,
@x4740N@lemmy.world avatar

I will consider it when looking for my next phone but my current Samsung is still functioning so I don’t want to get a new phone until that one kicks the bucket

money_loo ,

This is true.

I’m also wondering what OP was wearing when he took the phone in for repairs, seems like he was asking for it.

HikingVet ,

While this is some bullshit companies pull, you don’t have third party repair companies in your area?

Vuraniute OP ,
@Vuraniute@thelemmy.club avatar

samsung does bullshit where the parts have serial codes paired to the phone or whatever and you need to match it using their proprietary software for it to function. apple does it too.

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@startrek.website avatar

I bought a Samsung as well. We should both learn from our mistakes, and never do that again - this is simply the cost of doing business with them. Maybe Fairphone would be good?

Vuraniute OP ,
@Vuraniute@thelemmy.club avatar

where can I get a good phone like a pixel or fairphone or whatever in greece? phones like that cant be found anywhere.

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@startrek.website avatar

Sadly I know very little there. I know I HATE my current Samsung (mostly due to the company practices like you mentioned), and I also felt incredibly betrayed by my OnePlus 7T before that (the device itself was amazing, until an update broke it and now it literally hurts my hand, like I wonder if it’s giving me cancer by radiating something through the shielding that it burned through), and before that I absolutely adored my Nexus 5 (but Pixels are a whole other thing entirely - far too much camera and too little actual phone for my tastes). The entire smartphone world is incredibly predatory. I mostly figure that the next one I get will be a cheap phone, maybe even a dumb flip… but on the other hand I do live in an area where Google (or whatever) Maps could really help out so… I don’t know what I’ll do when my current one craps out:-(. Probably I will research a Fairphone, but if you live in an area where that would be difficult to repair, then yeah that may not be an option for you:-(. At least you live within the EU though where such is being forced to change, so you have that going for you.:-)

bobs_monkey ,

Can you not buy one online?

dzervas ,

γερμανος κ ξερο ψωμι!

BTW: please don’t root/install magisk on a phone you use <3

toastal ,

Fairphone removed the headphone jack so it’s pretty useless as a personal electronic device IMO

JohnWorks , (edited )

Do you have a source for this? I’ve tried looking up anything online to see if this is something Samsung started to do but couldn’t find anything. I am also seeing 3rd party batteries available on Amazon for the a32 5g.

Here’s an example that seems to have good reviews. Couldn’t find anything in the reviews that say the battery needed to be paired.

Edit: battery said it wasn’t for a32 5g here’s another a.co/d/7Zy2N88

Vuraniute OP ,
@Vuraniute@thelemmy.club avatar

iFixit article on part pairing (samsung is called out): ifixit.com/…/how-parts-pairing-kills-independent-…

Video about samsung actually implementing part pairing: piped.kavin.rocks/watch?v=zGLQ9ZRntZo

JohnWorks , (edited )

Looking though that it looks like Samsung made a comment

Samsung’s representative stated:

“I’m unfamiliar with the specific variables that could have come into play with this repair or the unsubstantiated comments from Mr. Jeffrey. What I can tell you is that there is no requirement to pair parts on our smartphones. If a repair were conducted correctly, a device would not lose functionality.”

I was checking to see if anyone made any additional comments on the Hugh Jeffreys video and someone said they replaced the screen but kept the fingerprint sensor and it still worked fine. I believe replacing the battery with a 3rd party option should still have the device working fine.

Hugh left a comment on the video as well: https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/10bb9b40-79dd-4f29-b208-62a3ca4e407c.jpeg

user224 ,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Wait, Samsung does that too now?
Whatever, it’s just iPhones with Android now.

SayJess ,
@SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I was going to suggest doing it yourself, but it is a bit involved.

Vuraniute OP ,
@Vuraniute@thelemmy.club avatar

Would, but I don’t have the equipment.

dangblingus ,

You don’t own the phone btw. It’s in the TOS.

grue ,

Stop parroting corporate propaganda.

velvetThunder ,

It sounded to me that they were pointing out how fucked up it is that we don’t even own the hardware we pay for after clicking BUY. At least I would mean that.

grue ,

We do own the hardware we buy. It’s fucked up that corporations keep trying to gaslight us that we don’t, but their delusional claims aren’t actually true.

ReakDuck ,

My battery broke earlier because I installed GrapheneOS and abused speed charging thr entire time at night.

A stock android would slow the battery charge till the first Alarm.

notthebees ,

At that point just do it yourself

Cover_czar ,
@Cover_czar@lemmy.ml avatar

Yeah I bootlooped my samsung phone and the service center didn’t gave a shit about it They said the circuit itself is damaged and is hardbricked I fixed it with some kind of unlock tool lol
I forgot the tool’s name Anyways i broke the screen just after few months fixing all this RIP💀

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