I hated it at first, and when it really took off as the trendy thing at least here in my country I particularly hated it because they were outrageously sweet. It was like having a burger between 2 slices of cake, it sucked. I also felt there were textural things that just weren’t right and I complained about the hipster takeover of good burger bread.
I’ve mellowed on it now, I think in part because they’ve actually changed. I think the commercially made ones used in burger places now seem to actually taste of bread and are only just a little sweet and the whole combo especially with lots of mustard works really nicely. They look beautiful and when they aren’t super sweet they add a little something without being too cloying or distracting. I appreciate nice flavourful bread in a burger but ultimately it’s a vehicle and brioche strikes a good balance between the awful grocery store bag of fluff burger buns and super hard chewy hipster sourdough or some weird, not round form factor bread that should really be a pita or a pizza. So long as they’re toasted, they’re all good and it grows on you. Which is fortunate as everybody seems to have decided that that’s burger bread now so I’m glad I picked up the taste for it.
I also had the same thought on the greasiness but then I kind of discovered how much nicer the super greasy, drippy, messy kind of burgers are and once they’re made like that with tons of juice and fat, they’re so greasy and messy that no bread is going to save you from having completely greasy hands anyway so some negligible amount extra from the bun isn’t all that worth worrying about. If it’s one of those burgers with the tighter texture that’s not quite so indulgent, maybe a bit drier, not as big a pattie then the bread is a lot more important and the Brioche is a less good option, especially as it’s also greasy but otherwise, I’ve changed my tune on the brioche.
A normally blue voter voting 3rd party is indirectly helping Trump win the election. Do you think Trump’s Israel policy is going to be better than Harris’s?
I’m not rewarding them for anything, but I accept that it’s possible to oppose one policy a politician has, even a very important one, and at the same time support a lot of other policies they have, while also vehemently opposing almost all policies that their opponent supports, and make my choice based on that information.
Based on this post, you seem to be a single-issue voter, though, so I’m trying to understand what you’re hoping the outcome is. You acknowledge that a vote that supports Trump, even indirectly, is not helping the people of Gaza, so why would you vote against your own self-interests? What’s your goal?
If your goal is to show opposition to what’s happening in Gaza, there’s much more effective ways to do that. Get out there and protest - the protests at the DNC are getting a lot of news coverage, that’s where your activism could actually make a difference. Not here.
The guys is just a trump/maga shill who exploits the suffering in Gaza to attack the democratic party. That’s all he every posts about. Don’t waste your time.
I don’t think it’s a waste of time. Even if I can’t convince him specifically, there are other people reading these posts. If someone came to this thread who was less sure, and I can change their mind, that’s good enough for me.
If I were the victim of genocide, I wouldn’t be a voter at all, because I’d be dead. However, that’s kind of irrelevant - are you the victim of genocide? I’m assuming not, if you’re voting in the US election. Even if you’re Palestinian, your people are the victim of genocide, but unless you’re in Palestine, you aren’t.
That said, if you are Palestinian, I feel for you, I honestly do, and it would explain your view somewhat.
I think we can both agree that there’s only two outcomes that’re possible in this election: Trump wins, or Harris wins. (If you don’t agree, I’d be happy to hear your third outcome.) If you truly believe there’s no difference between the two of them, you need to do some research on the topic, because there are a lot of differences, even if they don’t pertain to this issue specifically.
If, between the two of them, you hope Harris wins, a 3rd party vote is voting against your interests. If you hope Trump wins between the two of them, a 3rd party vote is still voting against your interests, because you’re effectively taking a vote away from your preferred candidate among the two who could possibly win.
Edit to respond to your edit:
The outcome is the Democrats stop committing Genocide or they don’t get votes. “But Trump” isn’t even an argument.
Unless you’re out there protesting, or writing letters, or making phone calls, or in some way letting them know that their policy is costing them your vote, it’s a useless gesture. Posting on Lemmy isn’t going to change any politician’s minds. It’s not even going to change anyone’s mind here, in all likelihood. If you actually want to make a difference, you need to make your voice heard by the people whose minds you’re actually trying to change.
Not every victim of Genocide is killed. Any person who was put in a concentration camp by Hitler, or even persecuted, was a victim of the Holocaust. Similarly any person in Gaza is the victim of a Genocide. And you don’t have to be a Palestinian to empathise with people.
Your scope of analysis is limited to 4 years. There’s no long term analysis. If people vote for Genocide it will cement that Democrats can get away with anything if they fearmonger hard enough.
When people threaten to withhold votes for a Genocide they have to follow through or all the leverage falls away. It’s a game of chicken now.
And if you’re not scared of a convicted felon who promises to be a dictator on day one and has the Supreme Court in his pocket who granted him immunity as well as a cult like following who stormed the Capitol to attempt an insurrection yet who also praises dictators and salutes their generals and has nothing to lose getting ahold of the Presidency then I don’t know what to tell ya. But sure, let’s play chicken with the saner and lesser of the two evils and help MAGA win.
He was a convicted felon who had the Supreme Court in his pocket who granted him immunity as well as an attempted insurrection in his honor and he saluted hostile generals?
I don’t remember if he promised to be a dictator on day one or had already praised dictators back then, so I’ll grant you that one out of…everything else he’s done since then which was not covered in 2016.
Trump was not just going to install a Fascist regime but commit a Genocide on all Mexicans and Arabs and start nuclear WW3. In the end he built a worthless border wall and a did Muslim ban that got overturned rather quickly.
Collective amnesia amongst Democrats appears to have wiped all the memories of previous Trump fearmongering away. There’s room for fresh new fearmongering again.
I don’t care about Trumps felony convictions of him bribing a porn star. Biden and Harris should face trial in the Hague for literal Genocide.
4 years? That’s your idea of “long term”? You honestly think losing one election will teach anybody anything? How the fuck will they know what lesson to learn when they lose? As other commenters have said, their are other issues the two parties disagree on. How will they know what one to blame for losing?
On the other hand, pubs are learning that they can run a convicted felon that promises a dictatorship if he wins. Yeah, let’s set that precedent…
Already proven. They dropped Biden because they knew they would get Hillary2016’d if they didn’t. Democrats only seem to learn their lesson the hard way.
Heard the dictator shtick in 2016 try something new.
Ah yes, “proven”. It’s obvious to me by your use of “proven”, “their”, “dictator shtick”, etc… that you are one of the crazies. You’re not here to spread wisdom because you have none and you’re not here to gain wisdom because you’re incapable of hearing it. Please feel free to go fuck yourself with a red trucker hat.
That’s complete nonsense. Trump is going to support Netanjahu going full fascist. The Democrats are going to offer at least some resistance. Not nearly enough obviously, but there is a clear difference nonetheless. A second Trump administration would be extremely damaging not just to the US but to the entire world. But that’s fine by you, isn’t it? People like you just want to see the world burn and all your ideas of how something better is somehow going to rise from the ashes are just bullshit.
Never did I say vote for Trump you’re just putting words in my mouth now. But you’re saying you consider Trumps record of being a scamming piece of trash worse than literal Genocide?
You don’t seem to have read or followed any of the logic here. Why’s that?
Someone who would otherwise vote for Harris voting 3rd party would help Trump win. Pretty simple. Not sure what’s so hard to understand about that. And Trump would be just as bad on Gaza, worst likely, and worse on every other issue facing the country as well. Not sure how many times we have to say it.
If a massive number of voters would vote third party that would be great. But based on every presidential election ever that’s just wishful thinking. The reality is a vote for a third party is one less vote for the best chance to defeat Trump.
The reality here is we aren’t going to win with a non genocide candidate. The best we can do is go with the masses and vote the least bad candidate in.
No. In his previous term he clearly favoured Israel more than what the current government is. Examples I remember are moving the embassy to contested/Palestinian territory, having his corrupt step son manage policy in the middle east and wasn’t Kushner and the kids involved in shady business dealings in the area as well.
Stopping the genocide is very important, but it’s also very important to stop the facist from taking power. EVERYTHING, including Israeli mistreatment of Palestinians will be a whole lot worse with the facist in power.
Trump will kiss up to Netanyahu because they are both demagogues.
Proving they are trying to improve the situation for the Palestinians by righting a wrong done by the other, and far worse, of the two candidates. Right?
Don’t you see the benefit of AI??? Wow this is such a good and helpful thing. This chatgpt really is a useful product. Good job!
We exploit “cheap” labor “foreign” countries and create a hostile environment online (and possibly remote work job market) for the citizens of that country and look at all the good stuff, we got from it… Look at it… It is going to somewhere right?
That was a great read, thank you for sharing that. My apologies to the man who suffered acute psychological lacerations, I’m about to cause one more by shamelessly stealing that line for my own use (my ancestors were also colonised by the English, so it’s okay. I think?).
There are four options for American voters: vote red, vote blue, vote third party, or don’t vote at all.
Voting red is just bad. I highly doubt that the Gaza situation would get any better if Trump gets in, but I know for a fact that a lot of things will get much worse.
Voting third party is a wasted effort. Sure, every sane person would prefer different people to run America, but the the shit fptp system means they’ll never get any traction. In another election voting third party could be worth it, since a third party might slowly get more support, but not this one.
Not voting is just pointless. That’s just choosing to not impact anything.
That only leaves voting blue. It’s not great, but it’s the only option left.
I highly doubt that the Gaza situation would get any better if Trump gets in, but I know for a fact that a lot of things will get much worse.
What would Trump do that the Dems are not already doing? Trump would be a genocidal monster, yes, but we have DNC goers literally mocking Pro-Palestinian protestors and covering their ears:
There are four options for American voters: vote red, vote blue, vote third party, or don’t vote at all.
Nope, there are an infinite number of options. If a math question is “what number is greater than 10?” And the Dems said 4 and the Reps said 2, that doesn’t mean the Dems are correct. Voting will not save us, so we must move outside the realm of electoralism. Join an org, build up dual power, replace the DNC and GOP by force.
Maybe this is overly wishful thinking, but I do think there is enough data analysis on how people vote that it could be real: if a large body of people with a history of voting blue vote in this election and vote blue down the ballot but omit the president, or have a third party for the president instead, then that might actually send a message to the Democrats that they are fucking up their candidate selection badly, and make them at least marginally more likely to cater to the left when choosing candidates in the future.
That said I am not sure I can condone this tactic in good faith in this particular election given the alternative, but part of me feels like the right will perpetually have more and more abhorrent alternatives and there needs to be a line somewhere, and if it’s not at genocide then I honestly don’t know where it is.
No matter how you look at it all the options are bad. At least Tim being slightly left of Kamala shows Democrats slightly more willing to negotiate with disenfranchised left voters than chasing nebulous farther right independents. Not left enough to condemn genocide though so a very minor distinction
this is not surprising at all, since daesh is a puppet of the imperialists. they were created by the us and its saudi and kuwaiti allies from freed iraqi criminals after the 2003 war. they were used as “moderate rebels” in the 2011 libya war and are known to get healthcare, weapons and training in turkey, a nato member. they always attack us enemies, but almost never us allies. israel in particular is known for having a quite positive relationship with them, as they even apologized to the zionist entity for accidentally attacking them. the trump administration also murdered general soleimani who was instrumental in fighting against daesh and biden is continuing this pattern.
Yeah, the biggest tragedy of technobros pushing generative AI everywhere is that as a result of that, everyone just had to adopt the stance that you can’t trust a damn thing these days.
At least previously, this kind of disruption led to nuance. Photo manipulation has been around pretty much since the dawn of photography, so now we as a society have developed nuanced view of it over the past couple of centuries. Now, photographs used as evidence in criminal cases have different standards than photographs used in advertising - former has strict standards because it’s a serious inquiry requiring hard evidence, the latter has lax standards because the viewers understand that the photos offer an “enhanced” truth. But generative AI? It just got dropped on our lap all of sudden. We as a society can’t deal with it yet. We’re not ready.
One of my coworkers always approaches me whenever he wants to write some formal or official document / letter, as he is not very proficient in English. After he reviews what I write, he always tells me that it sounds very Chat-GPT-ish.
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