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Lukerator , in Whatchu got
SnazzyKitten , in Louis Rossman is right

Bro i convice you get ipad pro 12.9inch dont worry about apple traking you down to hunt you just be in underground bunker homie just get it of ebay BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Che_Donkey , in Good morning from Canada.
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Needs a Toque, eh?

edit: a Toke ya hoser

PerogiBoi ,
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It’s pronounced tewk

xionzui , in The life of a photon

To be pedantic, photons never accelerate. They only ever travel at one speed in one direction

Subverb ,

And as they’re massless, photons do not experience time. Regardless of how far a photon travels, from its perspective, the journey takes no time.

Pseu ,
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It also does not experience space, as the entire universe has been length contracted in its direction of motion into a 2d plane. It is simultaneously occupying every point along its path. So it doesn't need to experience time.

spacesweedkid27 ,

Relativistic effects are cool

xionzui ,

I’ve been trying to wrap my head around this part and what it means for cause and effect for a while. I think Feynman said something like a photon is only ever emitted when the source and destination agree to exchange one. Which makes sense if the exchange is instantaneous to the photon. But how can billions of years pass for us in the mean time?

Neato ,
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Because there isn't perspective of a photon. It doesn't experience because it doesn't change like mass does.

I'm not sure Feynman was right. Most photons are emitted and never absorbed by anything.

Peruvian_Skies ,
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Photons exist, so there is the perspective of a photon. Most may not be absorbed but that's irrelevant because some are. And when they are, their perspective - like them - ends. Like yours does when you die.

The photon does not experience time, but we do, so from our perspective they can be emitted and absorbed even though from their perspective they are timeless. Again, like us. Before you were born, you didn't experience being not alive. From your own perspective, you've always existed, even though from the perspective of someone older than you, there was a time when you didn't.

Neato ,
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I was using the wrong term. Photons don't have a frame of reference.

But even from the colloquial definition, photons don't have perspective. They don't live and die because they never experience time. If you had their point of view, your beginning and end would happen simultaneously, meaning you wouldn't experience anything. They are immutable particles whose only interactions are emission and absorption.

SpeakinTelnet ,
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I just want to say how much I appreciate those discussion. They remind me of how little I know even though I’m considered an “expert” in my field of work.

Peruvian_Skies ,
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There's a difference between time not passing and not existing. To a photon, space (in the direction of its movement) doesn't exist, as its origin and destination points are the same. But time does not pass - the axis of time is there, but the photon never budges in either direction, like a rock buried in the middle of the desert doesn't move in any spatial direction on a human timescale. The photon's beginning and end aren't simultaneous, quite the opposite. Since it can't move in time, they might as well be infinitely far apart.

riskable ,
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Most photons are emitted and never absorbed by anything…

Yet

Eventually all photons will hit something. Even if it’s a trillion trillion trillion years in the future when nearly everything in the universe has decayed into irony.

0ops ,

Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but eventually the universe is going to be expanding faster than the speed of light. At that point all interaction ceases, and any photons that didn’t get absorbed by something yet never would.

peopleproblems , (edited )

Sort of. The expansion of space causes (and is measured by) redshift. The photon that doesn’t get absorbed “exists” until its wavelength is not measurable (as its wavelength approaches infinity).

The cool thing about this is that it is identical to what happens in a black hole. Spaghettification. This also has the fun consequence of us possibly existing inside of a black hole, and black holes themselves are entire universes. Because of the breakdown of physics beyond the event horizon its not exactly easy to confirm or deny this either.

Edit: redshift not redshirt. Startfleet personal aren’t dying here, it’s photons

0ops ,

Genuine question, how do we know that photons are being emitted that never get absorbed if observing them requires absorbing them? Is it an energy loss type of thing with the emmiter where we have to assume x many photons had to have been emitted to explain the loss?

Neato ,
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Because we know how different things emit photons. We know a light bulb emits photons in all directions because we can move around and measure it. And we can see the photons being emitted from objects receiving the initial light bulb's light as well so we know it's emitting light in that direction as well.

The idea that photons are only emitted if they hit something also doesn't make sense because of power usage and how we know particle physics work.

Death_Equity ,

Open loop dispersion vs closed loop absorption, in either case they are a distinction of low energy observer bias. They are functionally equal because the waveform is a projection through a open feature of a manifold bound by a topological inversion that intersects it.

So the photon never really goes anywhere, we just see its shadow cast across a screen that moves from our perspective.

Subverb ,

Obviously it doesn’t experience space if it doesn’t experience time. It’s emitted and absorbed simultaneously in its frame.

tcrpz ,

It also does not experience, as it lacks consciousness

0ops ,

Well now we’re getting into philosophy

tdawg ,

Are we? Like even if you believe in the sliding scale it feels preposterous to assert there isn’t some breakpoint (even a fuzzy one) between inorganic thing that doesn’t experience and organic thing that does

0ops ,

My stance is that if we can define, measure, and test experience, then it’s science. But “experience” is a pretty vague term, and the way it’s used is pretty human-centric. To me “experience” isn’t so much a sliding scale thing that’s actually measurable in nature as much as it’s a human construct. If you ask me, if there’s a fuzzy breakpoint, it’s due to the word’s ambiguous definition, not reality.

rockerface ,

I have no consciousness and I must experience

c0mbatbag3l ,
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How do you know, though? 🤔

funkless_eck ,

I am therefore I must know.

stebo02 ,
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A photon would somehow experience the big bang, the heath death of the universe and everything in-between all at the same time.

spacesweedkid27 ,

They don’t accelerate, but can travel at different velocities in different mediums.

For example light travels faster in air than in water and fastest in a perfect vacuum.

xionzui ,

In aggregate, yes, but any individual wave of light is still traveling at c. You get the appearance of a slower wave because secondary waves are generated that cancel the original one in such a way that it makes a combined wave that appears to be slower.

peopleproblems ,

Not quite.c is the speed of light in a vacuum. It’s more accurate to say c is the speed of causality.

Velocity/speed isn’t very useful with photons either - its a wave-particle.

Light in changing mediums is a separate but related phenomenon. The photon essentially doesn’t continue on its same path, it gets absorbed by the particles in the medium. This leads to changing states (of usually an electron in an atom) which may emit another photon, remain stable but increase the atom’s kinetic energy (I can’t remember how likely that is, if at all), or it may eject the electron, ionizing the atom. In any case, the state changes, because the whole system (the atom, electron, and photon) can’t have net energy gain or loss.

xionzui ,

That was always my assumption about why it happened, but it turns out that’s not the case at all: youtu.be/CUjt36SD3h8

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pennomi ,

I believe they still travel at the speed of light, but are regularly absorbed and re-emitted in a way that makes the effective speed less than c.

yewler ,

How do reflections work? Aren’t changes in direction caused by acceleration? Also aren’t photons affected by the gravity of black holes? How does that work?

xionzui , (edited )

Reflections involve the material absorbing and re-emitting photons back the other direction.

The curvature of light from gravity is actually space-time itself being curved by mass. The light continues on a straight path through a curved space-time. It looks like it changes direction from the outside, but that’s just the shape of the universe in that area.

That’s why we feel gravity. The space-time around earth is curved inward, so going forward in time would actually mean falling towards the center if we were stationary in space. The ground is constantly accelerating us upwards. Light does not get accelerated that way, so it follows the curvature.

If you want to get really deep into the reflection topic: youtu.be/rYLzxcU6ROM

yewler ,

Heyo that’s dope! Definitely adding that video to my watch later. Thanks for explaining that.

xionzui ,

It is! I also found this video later that I think does a better job of explaining reflection: youtu.be/1n_otIs6z6E

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Batman ,

Well that’s like, your point of reference, man

hellfire103 , in Louis Rossman is right
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That’s why all mine are hand-me-downs. My family are the suckers.

iHUNTcriminals , in S/o to all my 🍆 out there

Those aren’t tears on his face.

Jaysyn , in Louis Rossman is right
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No lies told.

Son_of_dad , in Good morning from Canada.

I’ve been living in Canada for 25 years, I don’t think I’ve ever met anyone who says aboot, or anyone with that hoser accent

moonsnotreal ,
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I live within a 2 hr drive of Montreal and have never ever heard someone say “aboot” or “soory”

AspieEgg ,

J. J. McCullough on YouTube is a pretty popular YouTuber that says aboot a lot. As an American who moved to Canada, I hear a lot of people use “aboat” a lot instead of the more American “abowt”. Though it can be pretty difficult to distinguish between a Canadian and American accent, especially since both countries have several different accents.

nathris ,

He says it to get views. The only place you might hear ‘aboot’ is in Newfoundland. Aboat is I think an eastern thing as well. I rarely hear in in BC.

Dude is from Vancouver, which means he should have a PNW accent. There are some differences between Vancouver and Seattle accents but on the whole they are considered one of the most subtle and neutral in North America.

If you want the American equivalent word, ask someone to pronounce the word ‘roof’. Canadians will pronounce the ‘oo’ like in boot but a lot of Americans will say ‘ruff’ or ‘rough’.

AspieEgg ,

As far as J. J. goes, if you’re curious, he did a video about the Canadian raising accent, where he addresses his use of the word. youtu.be/8YTGeIq4pSI

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someguy3 ,

JJ has a completely fake made up accent. No one talks like that.

BonesOfTheMoon OP ,

Idk, if you live with Americans like I did for a while they have a very different opinion of our accents, which I don’t even think we particularly have.

PeriodicallyPedantic , (edited )

Yeah I don’t think it’s especially common. Maybe out west or in the prairies? I don’t know many people from there. In the marritimes it’s all “aboat” as far as I can tell, and Ontario I think says it like American “Abowt”.

Part 3 of the north american accent tour, by Erik Singer, on the Wired YouTube channel, does a great job breaking down different Canadian (and north american) accents.

abake ,

I’m from the maritimes. The most common pronunciation of “about” that I’ve heard sounds like “a boat” ⛵. And “out” is usually pronounced like “oat” 🌾.

PeriodicallyPedantic ,

That’s what I tried to say, but autocorrect did me dirty 😭 I’ve edited to fix it now

zipzoopaboop ,

Go to the Maritimes and you’ll find some

JizzmasterD ,

It happens in the rural west/prairies sometimes.

The internet is making us a bit more boring.

someguy3 ,

We pronounce “about” and “out” with a U.

Americans pronounce it “abowt” and “owt” with a W.

Americans can’t seem to make the U sound and whenever they do try it sounds like and A or O. But it’s neither, it’s a U.

RushingSquirrel , in Caught a week's ban on Facebook for this.

Looks A.I. generated

Chemical ,

I see what you’re talking about but I’m pretty sure this picture was taken in the 80’s

FARTYSHARTBLAST ,
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This predates what people now refer to as "A.I.".

spacesweedkid27 , in A true dilemma

One of these has empathy, the other one not.

moonsnotreal , in Asking the important questions
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No pain no gain

akinhet , in Whatchu got
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collegefurtrader ,

This is the very first lemmygrad meme that made me chuckle

TenderfootGungi , in A dollar saved is a dollar earned

Most small gardens are not profitable. But it is therapeutic and the food tastes better.

BCsven ,

Healthier too since the plant actually did its proper growing cycle and converted nitrogens into protiens

Rainmanslim , in Whatchu got
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    It’s the absolute worst but I use it because I have a lot of friends all over the world and that’s what we all seem to use. It’s so terrible. One day I’ll quit.

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