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shalafi , in You dare challenge me?!

Funny story: My sister was bitching about the shit TP at college and that they had just bought a 20-year supply. Guess what I was wiping my ass with 13-years later.

Alexstarfire ,

I’m gonna guess tp. Otherwise your school is really fucked up.

CyberEgg ,

With your sister? No kinkshaming, but that’s something different

jaybone ,

So she was stealing toilet paper from her school and bringing it to you?

jaybone , in You dare challenge me?!

First read that as School of Toilet Paper.

PolandIsAStateOfMind , in This looks like an awesome prequel
@PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml avatar

He should really have some talk with his tailor

frezik ,

“It shrank in the closet.”

BudgetBandit , in it makes me irrationally mad

Make this the punishment for producing litter producs as well. Fuck Temu with a rusty pipe.

Mangoholic , in Laptop recommendations

I got unbuntu on my xiaomi notebook with a nice oled screen. It worked almost immediately. Easier install then windows. I chose Ubuntu as my first linux because of lots of support.

Persen ,

As far as I heard, their designs are similar to macbooks, are the keyboards as terrible?

Mangoholic ,

I think its a preference, I prefer the keyboard over mac. But the build quality and hardware is just really good for the price.

Persen ,

So all the qualities of XM phones and no drawbacks, like miui and official software support? Great.

IDew , in I was made a humerous man...hopefully this doesn't send me south..

I don’t at all understand churches advertising… Maybe because of my European ass? To my knowledge churches are not about profit? I get that you want to announce your service times and such, but put that in a small column in a newspaper for the ones interested or something lol

Mugly12 ,

I imagine it’s a form of evangelism. Like, if they can convince someone to attend church from the ad then that is the same as saving their soul and gets them points in God’s book (or so they tell people when in reality money is the goal).

GenderNeutralBro ,

In America, all things are about profit.

riodoro1 ,

In Europe we are sadly switching to that attitude too.

ICastFist ,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

USA gotta export its worse ideas abroad, after all. For-profit churches, flat earth, antivaxx

anachronist ,

USA gotta export its worse ideas abroad, after all. For-profit churches, flat earth, antivaxx

More like someone in Europe realizing that they could import something from America and it’d catch on like an invasive plant species with no local ecological resistance.

Serinus ,

America didn’t invent any of that.

marcos ,

AFAIK, they did invent the modern flat-Earthism. Europe designed a straw-men to use as racist propaganda to say the people on their colonies are stupid, but it was a group at the US that said “yes, that’s us, and we are proud of it!”

Antivax was invented everywhere, again and again, so,maybe they get a half point for it too.

Serinus ,

In the modern era, the pseudoscientific belief in a flat Earth originated with the English writer Samuel Rowbotham with the 1849 pamphlet Zetetic Astronomy. Lady Elizabeth Blount established the Universal Zetetic Society in 1893, which published journals. In 1956, Samuel Shenton set up the International Flat Earth Research Society, better known as the “Flat Earth Society” from Dover, England, as a direct descendant of the Universal Zetetic Society.

BakerBagel ,

Where do you think we got the idea from?

QuantumSparkles ,

They want to convince you to come to their church so you can donate to their church which is totally not profit it is for the lord trust me it’s not sweet delicious tax-exempt profit mmmm

half ,

The church in the ad is particularly harmful. I had to fight to get out of it, and only after they took 10% of my income for years and trafficked me. They want money, power, and control, not increased numbers at their services.

marcos ,

and trafficked me

There’s a serious “wait, what?!?” here. The church sells slaves?

half ,

I was threatened by local leaders and family if I didn’t go on a 2 year mission in another country, then when I got there, they:

  • took my passport immediately and locked it in a building I couldn’t access
  • required 12 to 16 hours of work a day, with discipline if productivity dropped
  • refused to provide adequate food or medical care
  • restricted my communication with my family
  • assigned me a companion to surveil me 24/7 and report disobedience to leadership (and assigned me to surveil someone else)
  • disciplined me when I was physically and sexually assaulted by other missionaries

I didn’t want to call it trafficking for a long time. I figured maybe God just had a weird way of doing things. But my spouse works at a recovery center for survivors of violence (including trafficking) and helped me realize that’s what it was.

A pretty big misconception is that trafficking has to look like selling slaves, and I agree that’s an egregious thing, but it can be a lot more broad than that.

There are a lot of resources at humantraffickinghotline.org/en if you’re curious. My mission experience checked just about every box for labor trafficking, and I’ve heard very similar stories from a lot of other people who have been missionaries.

marcos ,

Yep, sounds like slavery. Taking your passport away would already be enough.

Zagorath ,
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

Were you mormon? Or is this more widespread than I thought?

If you are talking about the mormon church, and if what I’ve heard is correct, you missed an added point that makes it look all the worse. That you had to pay for the right to let them do that to you. Normally in a labour trafficking situation you’d at least be expecting some sort of compensation, even if it’s grossly inadequate and ends up largely back in the hands of the traffickers as they charge for accommodation and transport. But from what I’ve heard, mormons do the labour entirely for free, and pay a large amount for the “honour”.

half ,

I was mormon. Thankfully my parents paid to traffic me, so I could afford to go to college and cut them off relatively soon after I got home.

usualsuspect191 ,

They might be talking about a mission? Personally wouldn’t call that trafficking, but it can be pretty brutal depending on the mission

marcos ,

What the GP describes looks exactly like trafficking.

joyhunter ,

It is trafficking. Growing up in that church, I still agree with a lot of the stated philosophical beliefs, the actual behavior of most of the community is incredibly disappointing and leans cult-like. The mission isn’t inherently trafficking, the religion isn’t inherently a cult, but it’s not beating the allegations and more within need to call out the members that commit these illegal organized atrocities and make it into a cult.

Chuymatt ,

White and delightsum.

Also, gotta increase their 35billion in holdings to make the elders more obscenely rich.

davel ,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

The gods demand more believers to increase their mana.

MeetInPotatoes ,

Not everything is so Black & White ;)

The_v ,

That’s an ad for Mormons. The Mormons are a corporation disguised as a church that has gained extreme wealth. They own a huge real estate empire, universities, and farms plus over a hundred billion in one investment fund.

Thy have been caught numerous times breaking all sorts of financial laws but because of their status as a church it’s hidden.

For the Mormons it’s all about profit and hoarding wealth.

pumpkinseedoil ,

A religion of hoarding money. It doesn’t get any more American than that.

lightnegative ,

In NZ, churches don’t have to pay tax. This makes them extremely attractive to people with no skills who want to obtain wealth

nickwitha_k ,

American megachurches are for-profit multimedia empires, doomsday cults, illegal political influence organizations, human trafficking rings, and shields for those who commit sex crimes, in an expensive, tailored trenchcoat.

match ,
@match@pawb.social avatar

in America everything is about profit

Cube6392 ,

Duuuude American mega-churches are PURELY profit oriented

Lemonyoda ,

Oh my sweet child…

Reddfugee42 , in it makes me irrationally mad

*were

*Subjunctive Mood

*This makes me irrationally angry

ulterno ,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

I didn’t learn “moods” in HS Grammar, but it still makes me feel weird.

Correction:

  • Used to make me feel weird until I got bombarded with so much of it (even the recommendations in GBoard do similar stuff) that I got accustomed.
  • I haven’t used Grammarly outside of the “let’s check it out” stage, but I have a feeling, that would do similar stuff.
RaoulDook , in Bacon

Yeah, I set the toaster on fire once also. I had read online that you can make cheese toast in there if you turn the toaster sideways so that the cheese is on top vs gravity. It might have worked if the toaster hadn’t caught fire. I had to throw it out the front door into the yard

dejected_warp_core ,

I’m actually kind of amazed that the failure mode for “toaster used sideways” is that it just catches fire. That’s one hell of a design flaw.

kevindqc ,

Is it a design flaw if someone uses the toaster in a way it’s clearly not intended for, and food touches the hot elements and catches fire?

dharmacurious ,

Id say the design flaw is allowing it to function in that position at all. Put a gravity switch in there like space heaters have, so that it it tilts more than a few degrees it shuts off

Zoot ,
@Zoot@reddthat.com avatar

How the hell am I supposed to make my quasedilla on the ISS then?!

dharmacurious ,

Duh, space walk with it and point it at the sun. That’s just common sense.

SoJB ,

This is an incredibly American attitude. The appliance clearly has a commonly occurring misuse that puts consumers at risk of burning their neighborhood down.

It would be a trivial addition to put a physical deadman’a switch on the bottom, exactly like what space heaters use.

The role of government and regulation is to serve and protect the people. I cannot believe you are unironically advocating that corporations should just put out whatever dangerous products they want with no repercussions just because there is one specific way to use it “correctly”.

Nevermind the million things that could happen. Cat knocks it over. Disabled or elderly person? Stoned college kid? Child?

I guess it’s all about pErSoNaL rEsPoNsiBilItY when it benefits you, and all about collectivism when it only benefits you huh?

kevindqc , (edited )

🙄 serving drama

Halosheep ,

Dude what the fuck are you on about. Plenty of products have safety measures in place because we have federal systems to regulate them.

You can’t just cherry pick one example and then say America bad. What a fucking .ml tier take.

Tlaloc_Temporal ,
@Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca avatar

There’s a thousand things that can destroy your house if you use them wrong. Leave the stove on, turn the gas on without lighting it, store loaded firearms in the oven, extension cord trees, breaker bypasses, tinker with any utility, any number of cleaning products, cars in general, water leaks, just leaving the water running, space heaters, portable generators, shorting the terminals on a battery, the list goes on.

And preventing the use of the toaster sideways won’t fix the problem anyway. People will still cram extra stuff in there, and overcooked toast can catch on fire without much provocation. Even just forgetting to clean the crumb tray can cause a fire. Trying to foolproof a toaster just gets you an incredibly expensive device that rarely works.

StaticFalconar ,

Tired of burning your house down when you want to use your toaster toske something not toast? Introducing the toaster oven. For when you want to toast something besides bread.

Revan343 ,

Maxim number 50, if it only works in exactly the way the manufacturer intended, it is defective.

marcos ,

If you didn’t expect a machine that has very hot elements very close to your food to make such food burn if used wrongly, that’s on you.

dejected_warp_core ,

I agree, but I feel like having the toaster itself catch fire could have been mitigated somehow.

ayyy ,

Then you get to play the “asbestos flakes or salt?” game. Fun for the whole family!

marcos ,

That said, eating asbestos flakes isn’t the most dangerous thing. Plastic partially burning close to your food, but too slowly for you to notice seems way worse… And there are many fire retardants that are safer to handle in a factory but that will give you a really bad time if you eat them.

NauticalNoodle , (edited )

Fire “removedants?” You mean fire removedants? How about artardents? I suppose one could argue that the automatic censorship of your word is a form of dysfunctional regulation.

marcos ,

Does ML censors parts of words now?

blackbrook ,

There’s all sorts of inappropriate ways to use a toaster where the failure mode is fire. Making toast in bed, under the covers? Catch fire. In a puddle of gasoline? Catch fire. Seriously, WTC toasters?

ulterno , in Bacon
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

Just get a sandwich toaster.

It browns better in general too and burns less.

The only con being that it doesn’t let the moisture escape well enough (but that depends upon the model).

ByteOnBikes ,

You can’t flip a sandwich toaster sideways though.

ulterno ,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

You I can and it doesn’t burn itself down (at least mine doesn’t).

You just need something to hold it that way.

devraza , in this isn't about you
@devraza@lemmy.ml avatar

This was a horrible waste of money and time, and only really produced something that I can only describe as disgusting. Someone who recognises that doesn’t automatically become a bigot.

Taleya ,

Well your problem here is you’re conflating opinion with fact.

You didn’t “recognise” shit.

devraza ,
@devraza@lemmy.ml avatar

I apologise if my opinion here (this ceremony being ‘disgusting’) came across as me finding it to be fact, because I didn’t. My opinion here is one I consider sensible, and as such would find anyone disagreeing insane.

Perhaps you took this:

This was a horrible waste of money and time

Out of the context of being an opinion formed by me?

Goldmage263 ,
@Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works avatar

Legitimately curious here, what did you find disgusting? The message of the song, the callback to classical art and religion, performers in costume, or something else?

devraza ,
@devraza@lemmy.ml avatar

Mostly the costumes.

Goldmage263 ,
@Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works avatar

Ok, and to clarify, do you mean disgusting as in the opposite of attractive, or that you feel an internal wrongness when looking? I’m guessing it’s something way beyond either, otherwise it wouldn’t make sense to find others “insane” for liking the performance.

AstralPath ,

My opinion is that the only ones insane are those with nothing better to do than complain about an art piece.

Leviathan ,

You decided something informed by the insecurities and beliefs you were raised with. You’re a slave to the world around you and you think you had an original thought. Pathetic.

devraza ,
@devraza@lemmy.ml avatar

think you had an original thought

Much to the contrary. My thought is anything but original, and I’m far happier for it.

Additionally, being informed by the ‘insecurities and beliefs’ (as you say) one is raised with hardly makes one a slave to the world providing these ‘insecurities and beliefs’ - I would think that learning from lessons told is much smarter than trying to come up with stupid original thoughts.

Additionally, could you elaborate on what you mean by ‘insecurities’?

KingThrillgore ,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

I was mostly confused

zephiriz ,

While I may agree with the waste of time and money, I see the whole thing of Olympics a waste of time and money but if people want to have some fun who am I to stop them. People find your use of the word disgusting well disgusting and that you recognize it as so even more intolerant. Maybe even bigoted? Also the whole thing from what I see falls under ART. While you may find it disgusting others my find it lovely, fun, and entertaining, I did. While you can have your opinions I hope you don’t stop people from having fun when you disagree with them. Have a wonderful day!

Bluefalcon , in You dare challenge me?!

Some how both the thinnest and roughest thing ever made. Like wiping your ass with silk glass

hanrahan , in it makes me irrationally mad
@hanrahan@slrpnk.net avatar

That doest look like Singapore at all?

Ahh yes, its the thrown sandwich wrapper thats the problem not the 2 tonnes of metal and plastics belching pollutants that kill millions and are a massive ci tributir to global warming out the back whike driving down a concrete and asphlat road.

I remember long ago reading something where an enviromentalist who was driving home with a friend along the highway and the friend opined how their enviromwntalist friend must be disappointed with humanity seeing all this litter along the road edge and the environmentalist replied that the litter wasn’t the problem, the road was.

Looks litter free /s

https://slrpnk.net/pictrs/image/79d66b38-263d-4a6f-86d1-7d0f742dfcec.jpeg

MattWalsh OP ,
@MattWalsh@sh.itjust.works avatar

frankly cars and roads also make me irrationally mad

besides tire spikes, we ought to consider the death penalty for driving a car too /hj

https://kottke.org/plus/misc/images/xkcd-urban-planning.jpg

Aurenkin , in Private Capital vs Central Planning

Very good point and one that people often forget. It’s literally impossible to build high speed rail without first becoming an authoritarian dictatorship.

OurToothbrush ,

I’m confused by this, because it looks like China is proving you wrong right now?

Aurenkin ,

Now I’m confused, what do you mean? I never said they didn’t have a great high speed rail network. I think they’ve done a great job and I’ve got no problem acknowledging that. I was just poking fun at the implication of the meme.

OurToothbrush ,

Well, China, a participatory democracy with a 95 percent approval rating according to a Harvard study, is in the meme building high speed rail, and you’re claiming you have to be an authoritarian dictatorship to build high speed rail?

Aurenkin ,

Oh right I see what you mean. If you pretend China is a democracy my point is automatically disproven, that is true.

OurToothbrush ,

Why would I pretend China is a democracy when it empirically is according to any useful measure?

High government approval

Bottom up representation

Policies benefit the masses

Wide range of public opinion represented in government

yogthos OP ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

That all may be true, but have you considered the fact that they’re savage mongoloids who need enlightened white people to come and bring democracy to them?

OurToothbrush ,

Looks at downvotes

sees number of called out liberals

yogthos OP ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

US is the authoritarian dictatorship here, and it can’t build shit. Meanwhile, worker democracy in China is able to build infrastructure at scale. Don’t take my word for it though, every western study admits this

Aurenkin ,

I don’t know, man. This sounds like some “the enemy is both strong and weak” BS to me. When they can’t build a HSR in California they are an unplanned economy but when I point out the cost of China’s flavour of government suddenly the US is a dictatorship?

I’ve got no issues acknowledging when China does some good things but come on. I was rightfully making fun of the implication of your meme here and you come back with doublespeak. There’s really no need to pick a side and defend it at all costs, we can acknowledge the positive and negative things.

yogthos OP ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

but when I point out the cost of China’s flavour of government suddenly the US is a dictatorship?

I mean I linked you a whole bunch of western studies showing that people living in China see their country as being more democratic than people living in US see theirs. Furthermore, a study analyzing decades of US policy has found the following:

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/d42db85c-f0f2-4466-8127-282e6c4bf436.png

That certainly does sound like US is a dictatorship of capital to me where regular working class people have little say in the running of the system.

My argument is based on the empirical evidence available, meanwhile I have no idea what you base your position on.

gamermanh ,
@gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

You’re on .ml talking with a tankie, homie, you’re not gonna find logic or reason in regards to that shit here

SSJMarx ,

an unplanned economy

a dictatorship

These ideas are not in nearly as much tension as you think. California is a bourgeois dictatorship (like all other capitalist nations), and the bourgeoisie require the government to forgo centrally planning the economy in order to maximize their exploitation of the people (and therefore profit margins).

ShinkanTrain ,

TIL Germany, Belgium, Austria, France and Portugal are authoritarian dictatorships

Aurenkin ,

Don’t forget Taiwan as well. They have HSR although to be fair it’s also a very small country.

SSJMarx ,

They are, but that’s not actually relevant to this discussion.

rockSlayer , in You dare challenge me?!

Trust me, the tp doesn’t get better after school. Best tp I’ve ever used from an institution was my college, which was basically 3 ply Scott’s

designatedhacker , in You dare challenge me?!

John Wayne toilet paper. Rough, tough, and doesn’t take shit off of anyone.

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