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haui_lemmy , in MineClone2 0.85 – Fire and Stone

Are there minecraft clones that are compatible with minecraft mods? Or would that be a licensing problem with the mods?

WIPocket ,
@WIPocket@lemmy.world avatar

Im not aware of any. Most clones have a very different architecture (and programming language, most clones dont run on the JVM) than Minecraft, even tho some projects go for feature parity and support the original Minecraft multiplayer protocol.

So, no licencing problem Im aware of, mods are free to be shared under whatever licence and many are FOSS, but a technical problem.

haui_lemmy ,

Thanks a lot for the heads up! The was very informative. I‘ll definitely check it out because I‘m pretty sad how MS treats minecraft these days.

AncientMariner OP ,

I think the other response was quite accurate. Different language and architecture makes it harder. There are mods made for minetest that can work with MineClone2, so there may be some stuff you’ll enjoy, but usually they have to specify it’s available for MineClone2. Here is a page if you want to have a look: content.minetest.net/packages/Wuzzy/…/hub/

Minetest modding is actually quite nice to do from what I’ve heard.

haui_lemmy ,

Thanks a lot! Will check it out!

merthyr1831 ,

itd be easier to port the mods if anything, since Minetest is meant to be a lot easier to mod and extend than Minecraft. In fact, many of these Minecraft-like games for Minetest are an amalgamation of dozens of individual mods

haui_lemmy ,

Thanks for the heads up! I appreciate it. I will check it out. Am an old school minecraft player from the beta days, a server admin and so on. Since I switched to linux and the foss world, microsofts minecraft really rubs me the wrong way. „Look what they did to my boy“ style.

AncientMariner OP ,

I’ve said goodbye to the MineCraft I once knew, if we want something better, we make it, improve it and share it! :)

haui_lemmy ,

Yeah, its sad. I‘m still playing from time to time but the telemetry and the regular „authentication servers down“ sh*t is really trying to tell me something I suppose.

Will get into minetest soon I believe.

ShittyKopper ,

considering most Minecraft mods directly mess with the Minecraft code as opposed to going through a well defined API (forge and fabric only provide so much) you can’t really make that work without outright stealing Minecraft code

the best you can make would be resourcepack and datapack compatibility. maybe whatever molang stuff bedrock’s up to

haui_lemmy ,

Thanks for explaining. This helps understanding the situation. It kind of makes me sad that microsoft is ruining minecraft bit by bit it seems. I recently got „informed“ that minecraft is now collecting telemetry without my consent. It was kind of the breaking point tbh.

Killercat103 , in "I would like to switch to Linux, but it's just not good for gaming"
@Killercat103@infosec.pub avatar

I didn’t get the “You played on more than 1 device”. Guess it has been 100% Linux

spikederailed ,

Note did I, so I assumed that was the case as well. I only have my Linux desktop with Steam.

warmaster , in dlssg-to-fsr3 - Replaces Nvidia's Frame Generation with FSR3

This sounds amazing, I hope this gets ported.

9715698 ,

Would love to try it on my Steam deck.

Mongostein , in "I would like to switch to Linux, but it's just not good for gaming"

This past weekend I installed Ubuntu on an old Dell laptop and Mint on an old Toshiba. I just want to be able to play Open RA with some friends.

It runs on Ubuntu, but not on Mint. I don’t have the specs of either laptop handy, but is this a software or hardware issue?

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Most likely a missing package or something, so software. If also depends on which version of Mint you got (Ubuntu or Debian based).

Make a post here when you get time. If you can get a crash dump (e.g. run it on the terminal and copy the output), that’ll help a ton in figuring out what went wrong.

Mongostein ,

Aw! Well, right before I read this I started installing Ubuntu on the Mint machine.

I have a third laptop I want to do this with, but I have to find a charger. I’ll try Mint again when I get to that.

I’m just trying to set up my buddies with OpenRA so we can have LAN parties like it’s 1999

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Ubuntu is absolutely fine too, use whatever works best for you. But please don’t hesitate to ask for help.

Mongostein ,

Thanks! Yeah I like it. I’m just dipping my toes in Linux for now, hence using old machines that I’m willing to wipe and start over with

pineapplelover , in "I would like to switch to Linux, but it's just not good for gaming"

Where are you guys getting this pie chart data from?

xycu ,

Steam has a year in review thing, just log into the steam store and you should see it.

deus ,

It’s from Steam’s 2023 Year in Review. It shows up at the top of the store page when you open their app.

Max_P ,
@Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me avatar

Mine doesn’t show any pie charts, where do you find it? Does it only show if you played on more than one platform?

DJalexTheGameDev , in "I would like to switch to Linux, but it's just not good for gaming"
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Kolanaki , in First year fully gaming on Linux.
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Why is Steam Deck separate from Linux? Doesn’t it run on Linux?

stargazingpenguin OP ,

It is definitely Linux underneath. Technically it says different devices, so that might be why they’re splitting it down. In reality it’s probably a good way to get more advertising for the Deck as people share their stats for the year.

bionicjoey , in First year fully gaming on Linux.

Reminds me of that pie chart meme where it’s saying 100% but the categories are like

🟦: X

🟥: X but in red

s38b35M5 , in First year fully gaming on Linux.
@s38b35M5@lemmy.world avatar

Dang. GeForceNow made it so I’m shown as using mostly Windows.

Dremor , in First year fully gaming on Linux.
@Dremor@lemmy.world avatar
stargazingpenguin OP ,

I’m too happy with my keyboard and mouse to go that far! Also, some of the games I play aren’t necessarily the best for the small screen/controller combo on the Deck.

astrsk ,
@astrsk@kbin.social avatar

Uh, you know the steam deck is just a computer right? You can plug in a mouse, keyboard, monitor, and any other peripheral you want.

stargazingpenguin OP ,

Of course! But if I’m going to do that, I’ll just sit down in front of my gaming PC and play everything on ultra and use an ultra widescreen monitor! I play story based and casual games some, but I also spent a lot of time in strategy games and simulators, which don’t always translate well to the small screen.

Dickarus , in "I would like to switch to Linux, but it's just not good for gaming"
@Dickarus@lemmy.world avatar

Is this Lemmy’s version of Reddit’s “pc vs console” I’ve been seeing this a lot lately. Why are you all so obsessed with who plays on what and what their opinions are?

activ8r ,

Huh. Yes, that’s exactly what it is.
Good shout.

sparr ,

Because more people playing on Linux means more games get published for Linux, which is an outcome we want.

Dickarus ,
@Dickarus@lemmy.world avatar

Gonna have to get in line behind consoles first. PC gamers have been around for years, still at the bottom of the list when games get published. So…what’s the point in saying “play on Linux because games also work here” when publishers don’t care?

sparr ,

I decline the premise of the question. No one in the thread leading to your comment said anything remotely similar to “play on Linux because games also work here”.

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

PC gamers have been around for years, still at the bottom of the list when games get published.

That’s because console manufacturers and game publishers team up to fuck consumers.

More gamers on Linux would force their hands.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Well, at least get partity with Windows. It’s unlikely to get Rockstar to launch on PC first, but it might mean more MP games work well on Linux.

All I want is for enough people to use Linux so devs care enough to remove roadblocks for Linux, such as anti-cheat. I don’t expect Linux to overtake Windows or anything, I just want my selection to not be limited just because I’m running Linux.

Grass ,

More like play on Linux because windows gets more bugs,bloat, and built in spying every version and if I had the kind of money to afford the whole collection of apple products you inevitably end up with when chosing that path, I would have had kids instead and not been dumped by my ex for being born into a poor family and failing to gain anything from working other than worse health and not even breaking even financially. Linux is free too. Free is my favourite price.

c0mbatbag3l ,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

It’s like when you discuss music with a metalhead, it’s not that you just don’t feel anything when you listen to metal, and you don’t consider complex polyrhythms to just be objectively “better” because they’re harder to play. It’s that your music sucks ass and if it’s not the right kind of metal it also sucks ass.

Linux can play most games, but if you like playing games that Linux doesn’t play then those games suck and you shouldn’t want to play them. That’s their perspective.

Why do you want to play Fortnite or CoD warzone? Don’t you know kernel level anticheat is a rOoTkiT?!? (As if they could even define such a thing without resorting to just pointing at shit they don’t like and twisting the definition like a Baptist preacher trying to create theology.)

You can’t win with these types of people, Linux can play games! And if it can’t it’s YOUR FAULT FOR NOT EXCLUSIVELY PLAYING GAMES THAT LINUX CAN PLAY.

zalgotext ,

Nah, you’re getting too deep into your own feelings. Most threads I’ve seen where people start talking about Linux as a viable gaming option, it’s because some commenter or the OP mentions a problem they’re facing in Windows, which is directly solved or mitigated in Linux. Also, most of the time when people recommend Linux, it comes with warnings like “it has a learning curve” and “not everything works”. The hard line Linux-or-bust types are definitely not the majority.

Also, the very nature of Lemmy means the userbase probably skews towards more techy types who have been using Linux in their professional lives for years and have naturally come to harbor positive feelings for it. That drives the recommendation as well as anything else.

c0mbatbag3l ,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

Whatever you say, I’ve literally had people ask me “why do you play insert game here?” When I tell them why I haven’t completely gotten off windows. It’s happened multiple times. I’m not getting in my feelings, some of you guys are just insufferable.

I love Fedora on my old gaming laptop and arch/SteamOS kicks ass on deck, but I’m not giving up my main game that I play for socializing with my friends just because the FOSS community assigns themselves moral superiority for not being on Windows.

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Because we want things to be better for everyone.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

I just want more games to work on Linux, and more marketshare gets devs interested. I don’t care what specific people use, just that enough use Linux to grow marketshare.

Use what you want, but I’ll encourage anyone who is interested to give it a try.

Rooki , in First year fully gaming on Linux.
@Rooki@lemmy.world avatar

The steamdeck is so great!

stargazingpenguin OP ,

It’s a great device! I actually didn’t use it quite as much as I did last year, but it still accounted for 31% of my total time. I’m hoping for a slightly bigger screen if the SD2 comes out, but it’s very good as is.

Rooki ,
@Rooki@lemmy.world avatar

There will probably not be a SD2 in the next year. And i hope it isnt coming out soon as the SD OLED got released relatively recently and it would be just a “why” when they release 2 “New” handhelds in like 1-2 years. And the OLED is already the perfect console to game. It has compatibility with like 95% of games and it can run them with ease on good optimized games on high and not optimized on low - medium, touchpad is accurate, the trackpads are the best and repairability and upgradability is just great! The only thing i would want is a new Steam Controller, in a nutshell SD but without the display.

stargazingpenguin OP ,

I’m perfectly fine with waiting several years, I agree that it would be way too soon otherwise. I have the LCD and I’m happy with it, when this one breaks or I decide to upgrade I’ll take a look at an OLED and see if I think it’s worth it for me.

I’ve been very impressed with the trackpads for a lot of games. I even find myself using them on games that were designed for controllers because there’s just nothing like a mouse sometimes.

Rooki ,
@Rooki@lemmy.world avatar

I wouldnt be suprised if they would release SD 2 with VR support in few years ;D

stargazingpenguin OP ,

That could definitely be a possiblity! While I can’t say I would use it a huge amount, VR is something that I would like to tinker with in the future. My understanding is that it still needs some work on Linux, but that may be changing.

Rooki ,
@Rooki@lemmy.world avatar

Steam could pusht stuff like that too! They pushed linux compatibility with steamdeck and i could see that they push it with their vr headset. and they just need to improve the linux compatibility and then theoretically both steamos and all other linux distros can run easily steamvr

stargazingpenguin OP ,

I could definitely see it happening that way. I don’t think anything has been announced either way, but I know I had seen some rumors or speculation about a possible semi self-contained VR headset from Valve. If that turns out to be fact, I could see them using Linux as the base for it.

Rooki ,
@Rooki@lemmy.world avatar

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/46377987-1967-43c2-8507-6ccc604f5833.png

I swapped from windows to linux this year and got my steamdeck recently

randomaside , in "I would like to switch to Linux, but it's just not good for gaming"
@randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Building a machine that does everything is coming to a household near you! The rest of us, well we’ve been building custom gaming machines for one or two games for a long time.

The tooling is just getting better everyday. I don’t think Windows gaming will ever die but I think the experience has gotten bad enough that people have begun seeking alternatives. If this wasn’t true I don’t think that the SteamDeck would be so successful.

With that being said, I don’t tell everyone to try Linux. I do think that Linux is good for gaming but just hard to use for most gamers. I’ll probably buy a steam deck OLED in March just to “do my part” even though I have far too many custom machines and not enough time to enjoy playing the games.

filister , in "I would like to switch to Linux, but it's just not good for gaming"

Mine is 30% SteamDeck and 70% Linux 😂

Dremor ,
@Dremor@lemmy.world avatar

90% Steam Deck over here, and 10% Linux.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

75% SD, 25% Linux here, last year it was the opposite.

Gargleblaster , in "I would like to switch to Linux, but it's just not good for gaming"
@Gargleblaster@kbin.social avatar

What video card are you using?

angrymouse ,

Not the OP but I have a similar graphics on steam. Using X11 with KDE I was using a GTX 1660 super until november last year, this year I’m using a 6700xt both worked perfectly without any tinkering. KDE Wayland tho has a lot of issues with Nvidia (devs say that is the opposite, the Nvidia driver is shit). But apparently gnome implemented workarounds for Nvidia and their Wayland support is better.

Sonotsugipaa OP ,
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Radeon RX 580, or rather two of them: a “default” one, then one I use when running vfio-powered virtual machines or miscellaneous Vulkan projects I play with occasionally.

It doesn’t have all the newest features, but I run most games just fine.

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