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Fisch , in Discord clicks are going to game in KDE
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Are you using Xorg or Wayland?

million OP ,
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Wayland + KDE

Fisch ,
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I thought that stuff like this couldn’t happen on Wayland by design but maybe that’s only true for keyboard inputs. Unfortunately, I have no idea how to help you but I hope that this information was at least useful to someone who knows more than me.

HouseWolf ,

It’s an issue even on Windows, Some games just like to hog your mouse inputs even when you tab out of the program. Worse is a few games I’ve played that locked my mouse to the middle of the screen when I alt tabbed so I couldn’t click on anything!

Max_P ,
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I would guess both the game and discord are xwayland and since it all happens on that side that happens.

Seems like a similar thing to the xeyes trick to check if an app is really running on native Wayland: if the eyes don’t move, mouse events aren’t going to an xwayland client.

million OP ,
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The game is under Steam proton, so I would expect that to use Wayland; unless all that stuff is XWayland?

Max_P ,
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It’s all xwayland. Wayland support in Wine/Proton is barely usable yet. Even Valve’s gamescope, although a Wayland compositor/client, still only exposes xwayland by default.

million OP ,
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Good to know, thanks for the clarification.

Rooki , in Discord clicks are going to game in KDE
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Yeah it happens sometimes to me with specific games

million , in Gnome 46 getting VRR
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While I am enjoying my time with KDE I’ve always been more at home in Gnome. Hoping promotion of this from experimental to mainstream and HDR support are fast follows. I’d love to have another viable DE for gaming.

Rustmilian , in Gnome 46 getting VRR
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Gnome HDR when?

Keegen , in Gnome 46 getting VRR

Gnome just returned as a viable desktop environment option for me! I switched to KDE precisely because of it’s Wayland VRR support, and I’m quite happy with it, but it’s nice to know I can come back to Gnome if I ever want to in the future and not miss out on a crucial feature of my monitor.

b3an , in Linux hits 4% on the desktop 🐧📈
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Dumb questions maybe. But I mostly keep Windows for like Battle.net games. Is there any way to play Overwatch II or Diablo IV in Linux? With proton or any other way? Legit would tip me into that realm. I’m a Debian fan if that matters. But I’m comfortable in other distros. Except Arch 😆

L0x90 ,

Lutris.

It works out of the box with no configuration whatsoever, I’m actually playing StarCraft 2 as I write this and I’ll alt-tab now bye

b3an ,
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Thank you, I’ll try it out!

daddy32 ,

Diablo IV steam version has officiall support for Linux as far as I know. Or rather, support for Steam Deck via Proton, which is practically the same thing.

b3an ,
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Do I have to re-buy it for Steam then?

daddy32 ,

That would be the easiest path, but would cost you!

You can try to install the battle.net version via Lutris: lutris.net/games/diablo-iv/ and it should work. I haven’t tried this game in particular, but had a great experience with Lutris in the past.

It is a great front end for Wine/proton and a database of install scripts and configurations for many games.

Bit off-topic, but if you would want to also play games from the Epic store or GOG, be sure to try Heroic Launcher.

azthec ,

I play StarCraft II regularly, have played Diablo IV and just started WarCraft 3 recently, all without any issues. All you need is proton or install steam and add a non-steam game.

b3an ,
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Thanks for replying, I appreciate knowing it’s working. I’ll have to try!

Nevoic ,

Battle.net games have been some of the most reliable non-steam games you’ll find. You’ll have trouble in the Riot Games space (League on Linux, Windows 7, and 8 are all dead in the next month due to Vanguard), and some Epic Games (Fortnite), but if you’re a Battle.net/Steam gamer Linux is ready for you.

Confetti_Camouflage , in Can we make something like the apple vision pro for linux fans?
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Closest thing I know of would be SimulaVR.

haui_lemmy OP ,

Thats very awesome! Thanks for mentioning!

Ludrol , in Can we make something like the apple vision pro for linux fans?
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We all are waiting for godot Project Deckard

haui_lemmy OP ,

I liked the godot joke. :)

just_another_person , in Can we make something like the apple vision pro for linux fans?

There have been wearable displays on the market for many years. Plenty work with Linux just fine. As far as all the camera motion tracking junk, it’s a gimmick without a real use-case being sold by Apple. It’s literally half the cost of the unit. I don’t know many companies who would rather include that versus keeping units cheaper.

haui_lemmy OP ,

Thanks for mentioning it. I didn’t know they were linux compatible.

The thing that got me was the app store with (somewhat) vr apps. Linux has this so I figured that would work well. The AR aspect probably makes it a bit more fancy I guess.

onlinepersona , in Steam's February Survey: AMD CPUs & GPUs Continue To Dominate For Linux Gamers

Lots of new Chinese users? Is that due to the trade war? From what I understand they’re trying to get rid of Windows?

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scrubbles , in Steam's February Survey: AMD CPUs & GPUs Continue To Dominate For Linux Gamers
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That makes sense. I’ve done both team green and red on linux now, Ubuntu and PopOS. My personal thoughts:

NVidia for compute, hands down, it wins. Any AI or compute, you can’t compare. But the drivers are worse and a pain to install, and conflicting versions left and right and it’s just hell. PopOS saved me by having all of that set up for me.

AMD GPU drivers are still not great if you’re running a non “official” distro, but I eventually got it to work. AMD definitely feels more “stable” over NVidia. Way less fiddling with Steam and games too, most seem to “just work” compared to fiddling with env variables with NVidia.

Pros and cons. Personally, I’m leaning Team Red right now. They’re really bringing it. I don’t see any reason to spend more on an nvidia card unless you are doing massive compute loads.

keyez ,

I have an nvidia GPU and tried popOS and Nobara and I cannot get games to run at all. Keeps crashing or going to a black screen and the game never actually launches. Definitely going to be going team red next round to get off windows finally

scrubbles ,
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Did you get the version of pop with the Nvidia drivers baked in?

keyez ,

I did and same with nobara, tried twice with pop and once with nobara and gave up a few weeks ago. Couldnt get platinum protondb games to run at all or would run at like 14fps on a 3080

scrubbles ,
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Sorry then, unfortunately I can’t help, it’s worked on my machine but wouldn’t know where to begin to help debug :(

_Lory98_ ,

Same experience on Manjaro. Usually really low framerates, constant crashes and Wayland’s broken.

jaemo ,

Really? I’m having a very dissimilar experience, and am also on Manjaro. Drivers were a peach to install and I get at least as good as performance on windows…to the extent that the dual boot has (over the years) become just a single boot. I’m even running a valve index on it - Alyx runs smooth. Built in 2019.

TBH I’m surprised at a lot of these threads about Nvidia as it’s just been a few times that the drivers didn’t work out on an update and I had a black screen. But I’ve had almost as many breaking issues from non Nvidia related stuff in its lifetime.

_Lory98_ ,

What’s your build like? I have an i5 6600k and a GTX 1660. I have two displays one connected to the 1660 and the other to the iGPU, so I might have been accidentally using the latter. Wayland seems to not work even on my other PC with a single GPU (3060 ti) tho.

jaemo ,

Hmmm…

Looks like:

  • AMD Ryzen 7 3800X
  • on an Asus ROG STRIX B550-I
  • 32GB DDR4 @ 2666
  • 3070 RTX

Honestly, it’s possible that I just don’t notice low framerate as I’m a product of the Atari/NES gen of console gamers; my standards may be co-opted. I’m just reporting that my experience has been positive. Fair to say though that Wayland is still hit and miss, and still is. I general avoid it and stick to x while using steam, and tinker around with it when X’s idiosyncracies bother me enough. Nvidia in general just hasn’t picked my berries like it seems to have for others. Certainly not enough to ever make me retreat to a windows install 😁

SimplyTadpole ,
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Sorry for the dumb question, but what do you mean by “non-official distro”?

scrubbles ,
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They have a few distros hardcoded in their amdgpu install script. I had to go add pop into a line with debian|ubuntu|pop like that so it wouldn’t kick me out of the script.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Why are you installing drivers manually? They should be included in the kernel on pretty much every distro.

scrubbles ,
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I had the nvidia flavor of pop first, and had to purge everything nvidia. Afterwards all I can say is that I got a black screen of doom after purging them. All that repaired it was installing amdgpu… so… idk. Halfway to just reinstalling it after that ordeal, I’m pretty sure X is confused upside down and sideways

filister , in Linux hits 4% on the desktop 🐧📈

And yet still below the “unknown” OS? What the heck is this “unknown” OS that fares better than Linux?

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    year of the TempleOS

    baseless_discourse , (edited )

    Our tracking code is installed on more than 1.5 million sites globally. These sites cover various activities and geographic locations. Every month, we record billions of page views to these sites.

    They uses website trackers to compute the data, which is not a reliable way to count linux market share. A large percentage of linux user are privacy conscious, and tend to mess with tracking scripts.

    Here are some potential inaccuracy in tracking:

    • Good amount of unknown is probably people with tracker blocker, which blocked part of their tracking scripts. Or send confusing information to the tracker.
    • There are probably some Linux Machine shows up as Windows machine, since many browser pretend to run on windows to avoid fingerprinting.
    • Finally, the linux number itself might be overblown, as many browser has randomized fingerprint to prevent tracking, making them being tracked as different user.
    Acters ,

    Also a lot of enterprise equipment runs on some kind of Linux and may also inflate the numbers. Linux will always be around, it’s windows and Mac os that need their parent companies to survive

    phoenixz , in Linux hits 4% on the desktop 🐧📈

    I’ve had a Linux desktop since 2003, over 20 years now. 20 years of facepalm after facepalm every time I saw people get fucked by a windows machine.

    Go Linux!

    flubba86 ,

    Hey, I started in 2003 too! What was your first distro? Mine was mandrake, from the cd on the cover of a magazine.

    hornedfiend ,

    My first linux was in '98 and it was redhat 5 .2. I remember buying it from a computer shop I used to frequent as a teenager back then. i think it came on 3 cds or something like that.

    The amount of time I spent compiling kernels, building x server and getting confs to work is priceless.

    Ah,the good hard as fuck old days of Linux.

    phoenixz ,

    I started with red hat with KDE, which then became fedora, I believe. Then switched to Ubuntu with KDE which then split to Kubuntu. Then tried mint for a while, then back to Kubuntu which I still use.

    Now I’m actually considering a different distro, because systemd and snap are pissing me the f off, badly. Ubuntu keeps pushing it, so I’m out. Only, now I need to find basically Ubuntu without system d and snap

    gunpachi , in Recommended tools for monitoring CPU / GPU temps?

    For amd gpus you may want to take a look at amdgpu_top

    Unreliable , (edited ) in Linux hits 4% on the desktop 🐧📈

    I was running Bazzite for several months before I switched back to Windows. Unfortunately for me I have a broadcom wifi adapter, it kept disconnecting every 10-15 minutes, and that doesn’t bode well for gaming. Outside of that I really enjoyed using it! At least my steamdeck counts towards usage of Linux…

    Edit: also steam having to download pre-cached shaders almost every time I started up my computer was kind of annoying. I know you can disable that, but then you’re leaving performance on the table iirc.

    filister ,

    You know you can buy a USB wifi adapter and still use Linux or at least double boot.

    Unreliable ,

    Ooh I know, but there’s also a few games here and there where anti-cheat doesn’t work on Linux. Yes I know dual-boot like you said but I’m too lazy to switch between both.

    kusivittula ,

    usually you need to try out a few distros to find one that works perfectly with your hardware. always test them in live usb before installing to make sure that wifi, sound, etc works correctly.

    baseless_discourse ,

    Bazzit is based on fedora atomic desktop, which unfortunately don’t allow user to test before install.

    OP might want to try nobara or just fedora workstation. I personally find ubuntu works across most of the hardware, but people will need to manually update the kernels to get good gaming performance.

    pop_os is another good contender.

    mlg ,
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    Broadcom drivers are a PITA even with akmods or dkms

    Had similar issues where card would just randomly disconnect, although for some reason never when it was under load.

    Even followed the Arch wiki and tried some alternative driver modules with no luck

    Luckily it was a desktop so I eventually just switched to ethernet

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