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Shadywack , in Google, Netflix, Apple and Amazon are the "barbarians at the gate" of the games industry, says ex-Sony boss
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Google has proven to be outstanding in showing off limited corporate attention span and fad chasing. Not sure why the Sony boss has anything to fear from Google.

stilgar , in Google, Netflix, Apple and Amazon are the "barbarians at the gate" of the games industry, says ex-Sony boss
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Google canned their gaming product though…

Kerrigor , in Google, Netflix, Apple and Amazon are the "barbarians at the gate" of the games industry, says ex-Sony boss
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Google forgot why they were there at the gate, and started making yet another messaging platform

BitSound ,

Yeah, I’d be worried about Apple if they ever got serious about gaming other than mobile games. Netflix and Amazon are medium concerns, though there’s a good chance they’d go for mobile games for any sort of gaming push. Google just lost any trust they ever might’ve had with game developers by killing off Stadia.

Kerrigor ,
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Yeah, the mess Google made of Stadia pretty much guarantees that, even if they try to get into the games industry again, nobody will have any trust or goodwill towards them.

BackOnMyBS ,
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I don’t know anything about Stadia. What happened?

Kerrigor ,
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Redredme , in Google, Netflix, Apple and Amazon are the "barbarians at the gate" of the games industry, says ex-Sony boss

Apart from the sound bite title this article tells us zilch.

Sanctus , in Google, Netflix, Apple and Amazon are the "barbarians at the gate" of the games industry, says ex-Sony boss
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Nero sang, as he transformed Rome to ash.

They don’t realize the only true Romans in the industry are indie.

li10 , in Google, Netflix, Apple and Amazon are the "barbarians at the gate" of the games industry, says ex-Sony boss

Amazon’s the only one I think could make a dent if they got serious about breaking into the gaming market.

Netflix can’t even make decent shows anymore, Apple would be too expensive or mobile focused, and Google can’t commit to anything.

tchotchony ,

Serious AA titles, no. But apps? I can see that happen quite easily.

Ethalis ,

Amazon already got serious several years ago, invested tons of money in their dev studios, bought huge licences, recruited talented people and still mostly failed to this day. I remember reading an article about Amazon’s very hierarchical corporate structure that killed any attempt at the creativity needed to make a successful game but I can’t seem to find it

I don’t believe for a second that any of these big tech companies have a chance of making a significant dent in the videogame market, it’s just too far from their own expertise

li10 ,

Yeah, would make sense that Amazon’s “disposable” approach to employees would fuck them over with something like this.

Ertebolle ,

Apple's managed to become a credible player in the TV space in a few short years by, essentially, hiring some competent veteran executives to run the thing and throwing buckets of money at it; I think any sufficiently motivated big tech company could do the same thing with games.

Semi-Hemi-Demigod ,
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IMHO, AppleTV is the new HBO.

I want them to give Taika Watiti a billion dollars and tell him to make a Master & Commander series.

Earthwormjim91 ,

Apple Arcade is already a solid little gaming platform. My kids love it.

They may jump more into bigger titles as the AppleTV boxes get a little beefier, but right now being able to just connect a PlayStation or Xbox controller to it and play some fun little games is a nice perk

nitefox ,

What good show did Apple produce?

mrnotoriousman ,

Silo is incredible, as is Severance. Ted Lasso is great. I'm really enjoying Foundation. For All Mankind was a great season 1 but I haven't caught up on it. That's just off the top of my head. I ditched Netflix and D+ and only pay for AppleTV now.

nitefox ,

Yeah, Netflix is trash rn: too expensive and the OC are garbage.

About the foundation, I love the book serie so I will watch it today!

emax_gomax ,

Pretty much all of them. Their track record is amazing. Most recently foundation IMO which is in its second season atm.

redcalcium ,

Netflix can just throw money to attract game devs. They use this strategy for their mobile games and the games are actually pretty good, way better than the usual microtransaction-laden mobile games.

EnglishMobster ,
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I'm a AAA game dev and a number of former co-workers are at Netflix nowadays. Like, a suspiciously high number.

They can't tell me anything (of course), but I can put two and two together.

just_another_person ,

Game streaming. They’ve already discussed it publicly.

falsem ,

If they pay their game devs anywhere near what they pay the rest of their devs then that's got to be the easiest career decision ever.

falsem ,

The only thing Amazon has produced is a mediocre MMO. They've been too busy chasing fads to try to put out anything that's just a quality game.

half_built_pyramids , in Google, Netflix, Apple and Amazon are the "barbarians at the gate" of the games industry, says ex-Sony boss

Those barbarians are pretty bad guys - Nero

dojan ,
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This is a beautiful comment.

Zehzin , (edited )
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TBH that Sony boss isn’t as bad as other Sony bosses.

It’s interesting to see how scared big gaming honchos are of Google and Amazon “becoming the Disney of games” (see the leaked Microsoft emails), when Google’s gaming thing is already dead and Amazon still haven’t managed to make something worth playing.

half_built_pyramids ,

Yeah Nero wasn’t that bad, at least he didn’t invent loot boxes and gaas

just_another_person , in DXVK 2.3 released [Wine]

Solid release 👍

ono , (edited ) in Tips to prevent Steam from breaking itself with redistributables?

Windows redistributables are installed in each game’s Proton (Wine) prefix directory, not globally. However, I have seen an example of Proton continually forgetting that it had already installed .Net for a certain game, which turned out to be due to a registry entry not getting set during install. If you’ve found a situation like this, it’s probably worth reporting on the Proton issue for that game.

people are really big on flatpaks right now but avoided that due to issues with like the two native linux games that still exist in Steam (mostly joking).

I don’t know what issues you encountered, but if you’re interested in the Flatpak, it might be worth trying those games again, possibly with Steam Linux Runtime manually set in the game’s compatibility options. Recent runtime versions have changed how they provide libraries to native linux games.

dustyData , in Tips to prevent Steam from breaking itself with redistributables?

Weird. Each compatibility game should be running on their own proton prefix, each prefix is independent and changes to one game environment should never affect other games. Soldier configures it all automatically. I’ve never had to clear “downloads cache?” I wouldn’t even know where that is. How did you debug the issue, did you try protontricks? It makes directX and other common tinkering options simple.

Also, 40 minutes to compile shaders, even if it’s just once on first run, sounds sus. I’ve never had a game take longer that maybe 5. Maybe there’s something else in your system interfering? Do you happen to have Nvidia, by chance?

just_another_person ,

This ☝️. Every game has its own “container” of Proton and redistributables. My guess is that you have an odd install of Steam. I’d ditch what you have and migrate over to the Flatpak install.

Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever OP ,

Its a fairly common issue that crops up when you google the symptoms. Ended up doing a logging run and figured out it was hanging in (I forget the official term but the stage where steam installs dependencies into the prefix). And the way to reset that is to clear the download cache in Settings/Downloads.

And yeah, nvidia. But the Warframe shaders are apparently a pretty well known issue. No idea why, but I do know DE are a lot closer to old school iD these days in that a lot of people there enjoy doing fun graphics/engine stuff. Just amuses me that Warframe will take 40 minutes after an update/new proton version whereas Hitman is like 40 seconds.

ono ,

Also, 40 minutes to compile shaders, even if it’s just once on first run, sounds sus.

It’s unusual, but not unheard of. The Last of Us Part I was like this on release, and for several patches after that.

rivalary , in GTAV doesn't run as good as Native

I also get worse performance using a Radeon 6800 XT compared to Windows.

NoXPhasma ,
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GTAV works better with AMDVLK, as one of the very few games out there. You could give that a shot, but be aware that AMDVLK often gets selected as default, so having AMD_VULKAN_ICD=RADV in your global Env. Variables are a good idea.

And then launching GTAV with AMD_VULKAN_ICD=AMDVLK %command%.

atmur , in GTAV doesn't run as good as Native

GTX 750 ti

This GPU is right on the edge of what DXVK supports. Kepler (600/700 series) isn’t supported past 1.10.3, but the 750 ti happens to be a super early Maxwell card. Might be worth trying proton 7.0 to see if that makes a difference anyway, since that version uses DXVK 1.10.3.

thero OP ,

but the 750 ti happens to be a super early Maxwell card

Phew!

proton 7.0

That’s great to Hear, lemme give it a try

Karubi1234 ,

Upgrade your card. Amd RX580 should be very cheap as used unit.

thero OP ,

Amd RX580

I will look into it, Can’t promise anything tho

thero OP ,

Unfortunately Doesn’t work. It Keeps on Crashing

warmaster , in Counter-Strike 2: Beyond Global

The CS2 beta can’t yet be played on Linux, right?

Chewy7324 OP ,

Yes, CS2 beta isn’t natively available on Linux. It works through proton but VAC is only enabled for native CS2 (same goes for CS:GO). This means playing with bots or on private servers should work, but not matchmaking.

simple , in Team Fortress 2 doesnt launch anymore after updating my arch install

Many people have mentioned using llvm16 broke compatibility, rolling it back or moving to Flatpak Steam will make the game run again.

Oha OP ,

rolling it back

How would I do that?

simple ,

I’m not sure sadly, I don’t use Arch. I would expect there’s a way of uninstalling llvm16 and re-installing llvm15. Again, if you don’t need the hassle you can just use Flatpak steam for these games.

uis ,
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using llvm16 broke compatibility

WDYM? It is compiler, nothing should change only because changed it’s version and did nothing else.

simple ,

They made breaking changes in the newest version and many programs that rely on it aren’t working.

uis , (edited )
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The only programs I know that call llvm during usual non-developer operation is radeon drivers. But in that case entire graphics system would be broken.

EDIT: llvmpipe too

thadah , in Team Fortress 2 doesnt launch anymore after updating my arch install
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Try to use the flatpak version of Steam to see if its some library that has been updated what’s causing TF2 to not launch.

It happened to me with CSGO and haven’t found a fix for it yet so I have two versions of Steam now.

atmur ,

This is one thing I really like about Flatpak, never having to worry about missing or broken dependencies. Totally worth the bigger install size imo.

One thing to note if you go this route OP: If you use Steam Input, you’ll also need to install the steam-devices package (game-devices-udev on Arch), or setup udev rules manually. Flatpak still doesn’t let apps do this automatically as far as I’m aware, but it’s smooth sailing aside from that.

uis ,
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to see if its some library that has been updated what’s causing TF2 to not launch.

Please read logs in post. There is no mention of library problem.

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