The only game I play on Windows nowadays is Rocksmith 2014. That's because, due to the nature of the hardware, it is a bitch to setup even on Windows. Proton just isn't having any of it.
I wonder if that’s why I like FreeBSD so much. I grew up with Windows, but someone in high school (old guy at the local community college I attended at the time) encouraged me to try FreeBSD and I really liked how different it was. I basically only use Linux now, but I still judge Linux by FreeBSD standards and I’d use FreeBSD if it had decent gaming support.
I won’t claim that it’s all flawless, because it really isn’t sometimes, but a lot of things just work. Both new games, and old ones, that don’t even work on windows to begin with.
My biggest two showstoppers are games like Destiny, and VR titles, that unfortunately are completely unplayable because I own a Rift S.
I still play practically everything else on Linux, and don’t see any reason to not to. I already do everything else on this os, so why would I switch
There’s a bunch of other things, like HDR; I don’t have a HDR monitor so I can’t say what people are missing, but I tried to mess with it in my pet-project game engine and vkSetHdrMetadataEXT just does not exist at all, and I don’t know what library or Vulkan layer could provide it.
It matches with what I’ve heard around, although apparently KDE supports it now?
I was very confused because this chart didn’t show up for me… then I realized that I’m 100% Linux and showing it would’ve been pointless.
Still, I’m very proud of it. Barring some games with arbitrary rootkit restrictions (suck my ass, Tim) and Adobe products (but Adobe can burn and die, so whatever), I’ve been able to completely transition to Linux.
They don’t anymore unfortunately. The best solution I’ve seen is using winapps for Linux, but even that relies on a Windows VM. Worth looking into though still imo, it’s how I use the latest version of Excel for my work.
Yup. I guess the gist of it is, Linux is great for just general gaming, but if you’ve got something specific, it’s just not there yet. (I see a bit about VR too)
+1 on sims, with so many different peripherals as well as third party software like simhub, even if a base game works on Linux, it effectively doesn’t since there is so much integration needed
Yeah, I’d love to get a VR headset, but there just aren’t even games to play on Linux, and the headsets with good Linux support are either expensive or hard to find.
Hopefully that improves, I imagine it’s stopping people from switching to Linux.
Even the Index, Valve’s own headset has had broken functionality for years with no fixes in sight. Valve refuses to fix big stuff like the cameras, base stations not turning on, or even automatic audio switching.
Not to mention steamvr reprojection is completely broken.
Yeah, I just keep a windows partition for VR. In all of my experience with VR on Linux, it has been terrible and buggy which is just intolerable. I gotta be honest, its not smooth sailing on windows either, steam vr has some bugs they haven’t fixed for years, so combining that with Linux just is not good.
I’d really love a wireless VR headset that is just a display with inside out tracking and streams from your PC.
There’s really no reason to have built-in computation unless it’s a standalone device and it just leads to a bulky and heavy device that still has a short battery life.
Yup. One by one the papercuts are getting resolved, so hopefully it’s just a matter of time before VR support gets better. Ideally Valve gets interested again and makes another push for Linux VR (maybe some tie-in with the Deck?), otherwise we may be waiting a while.
Linux wasn’t very good for gaming in 2016 when I first tried it. Then I tried again in 2023 and only switch back because I can’t get foundry to be easy on my arch based system, so like 3 hours every other week and for the least intensive thing I run.
BOTH, That’s the beauty of it. If the fat nerds come up with some sick new thing, it eventually gets added to the corpo distro. Meanwhile the big company can liaison with hardware vendors for drivers so that the fat nerds can spin it into their niche distro (e.g. new CPU compatibility)
No it doesn’t. It’s mostly a passionate minority hyping it up, but there’s pretty much no marketing.
If any distro has “Apple level of hype and marketing,” it’s Pop!_OS or Ubuntu, because both have a large-ish company behind them actively pushing for user adoption. Your average Windows user is far more likely to have heard of either than Arch.
I have no problem with Arch or Ubuntu, I used Arch for ~5 years and Ubuntu was my first (used for 2-3 years). I’m on openSUSE Tumbleweed now though because it ticks the boxes that are most important to me.
Yes definitely look into docker. It’s a very cool piece of software. If you can find a tutorial for what you want to run try that as it can be a bit confusing if you never used docker before
Yeah I tried using it for 5 minutes back on windows. Chaotic AUR has spoiled me lol
Edit: I’m an idiot who needs to git gud. It was a file in the download zip from the website. Took me like 10 minutes to set up from there. Now I just need to import my game
Eh, it worked well for me, but I’m easy to impress. I switched to Linux before Steam on Linux was a thing, and I made a Steam account when it came to Linux back in 2013. It was a bit unstable the first couple years, but by 2016 it was quite stable. I think my first Steam purchase was in 2015 (Rocket League I think? I don’t recall), and almost everything before that was Humble Bundle keys.
When Proton was released in 2018-ish, I suddenly had a ton more options, and I started to purchase way more games.
Things are way better now, but I was ecstatic to finally have a gaming platform care about my OS.
The issue has never been that games can’t run on Linux. It has always been a simple question of “will the games I want to play run?” More than ever, that answer is yes, but if your favorite game doesn’t, or if you never want to worry about “will this upcoming (online) game let me play on Linux?” then you use Windows by default.
Like, I love y’all, but the Linux gaming community on Lemmy is kinda insufferable with the straw-man “people think games can’t run on Linux” argument. That’s just not the issue
That’s why they specified online, because the cancer that is Easy-Anti Cheat has a teeny tiny checkbox saying “allow linux users” that is rarely if ever checked.
dunno, if we’re talking about easy anti-cheat, i’ve played insurgency: sandstorm, war thunder and hunt: showdown. Not a lot of games, but none of them had any issues
Plenty of games do check it! Which is why it’s excessively frustrating when other games consciously choose not to. There were a few hiccups initially but now as far as I’m aware it’s literally just the checkbox.
I really hate this "it’s just a checkbox* narrative. It’s bullshit. EAC functions very differently on Linux and it is ridiculous to assume that “it says EAC is on” = “game is secure”
Enabling Linux support does inherently allow more attack vectors that need to be secured that don’t need to be if it’s windows only. Linux works against these kinds of anticheats, as they’re working to get the most information out of the system as possible to prevent 3rd party programs from being run. This is a major design consideration in Linux not present in windows, so there is considerable extra work that has to be done, on top of already being much less effective on Linux than they are on windows.
Oh, it’s the Linux-preaching guy again. He always tries to get us to switch to Linux. We just say “sorry mate, we can’t game on Linux” when we see him, he usually leaves us alone after that.
OP’s friends until now
look dude, you were friends with Steve and he died in 91, and he taught us to be more patient with you than you deserve. We don’t care that you’re on the spectrum, this is not okay. Every single time we go out you’re on that Linux shit. Every. Single. Fucking. Time. We’re tired of your shit, we don’t want to hear from you again, you can keep your Linux and shove it up your ass. Just stop bothering us about it.
way back the issue most certainly was that though. There was a time when trying to run games with wine was a frustrating exercise that only resulted in a success in small minority of cases... which meant the answer was almost certainly negative when accounting for the additional restriction of trying to run the games you actually wished to be playing. Not everyone may remember this of course.
That’s great until you decide you want to play more than one game and have to restart your computer 5+ times per day. Then you’ve somehow made the experience exponentially worse than staying on either one
This has been my concern too. It’s great that we’re seeing some specific cases where Linux benchmarks faster than Windows, but that doesn’t mean a damn thing if the one thing I’m trying to play just full on won’t work.
Telling me that I can just also run Windows is counterproductive. If Windows will do everything I want, and Linux will do only some of what I want, now you’re trying to sell me on increased complexity and difficulties and learning a whole new system, without actually getting rid of the problems that come with running Windows in the first place.
I agree with you, which is why I impatiently await a wide release of SteamOS, which delivers a console-like experience for whatever hardware you want, and also the return of Steam Machines for dedicated hardware. I have ChimeraOS installed but it’s far from perfect.
Also I ran a small poll a while back and the vast majority use their PCs for more than just gaming (which makes sense) so we would need to see more Windows-exclusive software ported over to Linux before you could switch over entirely.
But obviously there is an entire market for consoles that Linux hasn’t really penetrated.
Personally I run a dual-boot system so I can have the best of both but I’m not sure Microsoft would approve of that being sold “out of the box”.
The issue is they want to run rootkits and malware instead of games.
Not sorry. Siege, Fortnite, Valorant, all of these games require kernel level access to Windows to run, and the publishers refuse to support Windows.
The only reason I’d ever play games like this in the past is due to peer pressure from friends to play these shitty games together with a bunch of sweats, cheaters and an overall generally toxic community. Especially Siege.
Social peer pressure goes both ways. And I’ve basically peaced out on any of these games in my friends group. That was enough to end that game for game nights, and as those games fade from our memory. I make sure what little memory of it remains is the true tainted and awful form from which they originated.
If you need a kernel level anti-cheat for your game, and nothing else will protect it. Your game is shit, your development cycle is shit, your company is shit, your community is shit, and why would I ever want to play a shit game with shit people from a shit company that forces devs to work under a shit development cycle?
That is not, in fact, the issue. I don’t play any of those games and still can’t play all my games on Linux. I don’t allow kernel level anticheats on my system.
Exactly. If even one of my games doesn’t run, it’s already a pain in the ass. Might as well stay on windows so I don’t have to deal with the headache. They all run on windows. I’ll switch when they all run on Linux.
“Linux is great for gaming. You only need to follow these 25 kernel configuration steps to combine three 3rd party applications and it runs just fine!”
I didn’t bother because I got plenty of playtime from it and got it through the Steam Controller/Link bundle as well. But I did consider it since I was ticked about losing Linux support.
That’s how I’ve been for a few years now. Windows has serious bugs that I encounter all the time that I never encounter with Linux.
Just this week alone… screenshots stopped working, usb microphones were stuck on mute, and the taskbar crashed preventing me from using any touchpad gestures or even accessing the start menu to restart.
The task bar was fixed with a restart but the other two issues required a reinstall of the os. I troubleshot those for like an hour without any solution.
I know! I have to use windows at work (IT Admin) and using powershell always makes me wish the software we need ran on Linux. Just today I needed to extract a partition image with dism and it just did nothing for half an hour before the progress bar even came up. People say that Linux is buggy but gnome gives me way less headaches than windows 11.
Windows unfairly gets the reputation of being more reliable than linux. I’m just waiting for my work to make one app available on Linux and then I’m switching.
Ever since I built my new PC a few months ago, my chart would be completely purple. I mostly play Indie games though, and they seem to have better Linux support
If you don’t mind me asking, what is the problem? I have heard (I am being patient and I haven’t bought the game yet.) mostly good thing about running BG3 using Proton.
It’s not much of a problem with BG3, more like a problem with Discord being absolute stinky festering garbage and not playing nice with my window manager at the time (Sway).
I haven’t used discord on sway yet, but from some reading around as i will likely be upgrading pcs and switching to sway (wayland) from i3 (xorg), i think it is discord doesn’t play nice with wayland.
Mine’s 50/50 because I switched mid-year. Might be more soon because I just found out my steering wheel doesn’t support Linux and the fan made drivers don’t support force feedback. :(
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