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jaybone ,

You noobs. I just use combinations of cat piped to sed to edit my files, which are mainly lisp code.

bluewing ,

Emacs users laughing at VIM users.

Emacs - A pretty good OS you can use as a text editor.

ramble81 ,

I’ve come to the conclusion, people who use vim just continue to do so out of a stubborn sense of pride for finally learning the key combinations.

MonkderVierte ,

There’s always ed for masochists.

imouto ,

Ed, man! !man ed

NeoNachtwaechter ,

Nah… vim users fight emacs users, but not nano users. Wrong league. We do not beat little children ;)

skittlebrau ,

Nano is more like fast food. It’s easy and convenient, but it makes you feel a little guilty and dirty afterwards.

sping ,

And yet Emacs users don’t fight vim users. Emacs users decided vim’s interface was pretty cool and added it to Emacs. Somehow people still call it a war though.

kata1yst ,

Bruh 😂 the Emacs user community absolutely constantly shit on Vim users. When they added Vi(m) bindings they literally named it ‘evil mode’, and they constantly make fun of people who use it, and spacemacs, and the latest flavor of (neo)vi(m), and all the extensions necessary to make vim halfway useful as an ide, etc etc etc.

amw3i7dwgoblinlabs ,
@amw3i7dwgoblinlabs@lemmy.world avatar

Evil or the extensible vi layer is super popular and improves the one area that emacs was lacking i prefer the emacs keybinds but have never seen peeps chat shit about it

GustavoM ,
@GustavoM@lemmy.world avatar

Nano is my “daily drive”, but I’d use vim as well – takes a couple seconds to search for “how to type in linux vim” and “how to save a file in linux vim” anyways. :^)

RandomLegend ,
@RandomLegend@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar
xeekei ,

Micro, hell yea!

macattack ,

Made the switch as well thanks to the modern key bindings

m4m4m4m4 ,

The problem I had with nano is that, for the time being, it was supposed to be easy to use. With that in account I always get lost when saving a file and closing the thing because one’s used to doing something else with Ctrl+O and Ctrl+X.

Whereas with Vim (and Neovim for a little while, and now with Vis) I knew it had a steep learning curve from the start so I always had it in mind. And all the funny stories about quitting vim.

tetris11 , (edited )
@tetris11@lemmy.ml avatar

they’ve changed those bindings now, Ctrl+S, Ctrl+X, Ctrl+V, and Ctrl+C all do what you think they do

m4m4m4m4 ,

Great, now the next time I’ll use nano I surely will forget about this and get frustrated when trying to save a file with Ctrl+O

tetris11 ,
@tetris11@lemmy.ml avatar

you still can, but I think Ubuntu and other prepacked distros will switch soon to the better bindings

socsa ,

Great so now I will mangle all my merge commits depending on which version the host is using.

lemmyvore ,

I’m thinking Ctrl+C quits and Ctrl+S is scroll lock is that correct?

tetris11 ,
@tetris11@lemmy.ml avatar
  • nano

    • Ctrl-Q search backwards
    • Ctrl-S and Ctrl-X is save file
    • Ctrl-V is scroll down
    • Ctrl-C is cancel or info
  • nano --modernbindings

    • Ctrl-Q quits
    • Ctrl-S is save file
    • Ctrl-X is cut
    • Ctrl-C is copy
    • Ctrl-V is paste
socsa ,

Vim is way easier tho

thingsiplay ,

The Terminator is not here to kill you, its here to protect you from Emacs (which can change its form to anything).

https://beehaw.org/pictrs/image/780de71b-d929-4c95-9b86-0bde3a949be3.webp

tetris11 ,
@tetris11@lemmy.ml avatar

Cmon dude, what’s most likely to be Skynet?

  • Vim: Clearly evil, lightning fast. Relies on vimscript for any interactivity and can barely be used outside of the editor.
  • Emacs: the hippie brain child of some of the brightest minds at the MIT AI lab, funded by military contracts. Slow, but uses a near-universal language that can easily escape the bounds of the editor, (and often does (, and holy shit where did those parentheses come from. (Oh no, it’s becoming self-aware… fly you fools!
thingsiplay ,

Vim: Clearly evil, lightning fast. Relies on vimscript for any interactivity and can barely be used outside of the editor.

I don’t know why you want use Vimscript for anything outside of the editor. But if that your issue, then there is Neovim. It uses Lua instead Vimscript, but what is the benefit of using Lua outside of Vim? That changes nothing.

tetris11 ,
@tetris11@lemmy.ml avatar

Lua outside of Vim has huge applications in embedded products. Dude I would kill for Lua. Do you know what we have? Common Lisp. Yeah, it’s great and fancy and all, but try adding that to your CV and applying for an embedded system job.

thingsiplay ,

My point is, then use Lua outside of Vim. What does this have anything to do with the language used in Vim? You can use Vimscript in Vim, and still use Lua outside of Vim. So what’s the problem? It’s not like Lua gets available to you outside of Vim, just because you switch to Neovim. What do I miss here?

tetris11 ,
@tetris11@lemmy.ml avatar

(it was mostly a joke, but) the skills you acquire tinkering your Vim to your needs using vimscript can’t be used elsewhere, whereas Emacs has the (small) advantage that at least most of one’s elisp skills can be translated to common lisp quite easily (with the joke being that common lisp really isn’t that useful, hence my Lua jealousy rant).

cygnus ,
@cygnus@lemmy.ca avatar

It uses Lua instead Vimscript, but what is the benefit of using Lua outside of Vim?

The only other (in fact, the first) place I’ve run into Lua is WoW plugins.

thingsiplay ,

But WoW plugins have nothing to do with Vim. That’s my point. You can use Lua in WoW, while using Vimscript in Vim.

AnUnusualRelic ,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

The first time I found myself in nano was when testing a distro fifteenor twenty years ago. I had to edit some files and it was the only available editor. The damn thing was a horror to use. I still have no idea who it caters to. I haven’t had to use it since though.

Jean_le_Flambeur ,

Dunno what you used, but nano is literally a text editor that may be simple simple but it just works. Shortcuts are shown to the user, buttons work like you expect them to (arrow keys, ESC, shift, etc)

With vim you open it and if you haven’t read 5pages of doc you won’t even be able to close it again. I see that its useful for power users, but for casuals who just want to edit a config once in a while nano is absolutely the way to go imho

Fizz ,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

I started on Emacs and then didn’t use it for a few years and forgot everything so now I’m stuck on Nano. But that’s fine because nano does everything I want it to do.

NOOBMASTER ,

isn’t there a separate instance for memes?

MouseKeyboard ,

gedit supremacy

737 ,

stop using vim, if you want a non modal editor use vim -y

rhys ,

Uh, just trying non-modal vim for the first time and… how do I quit it? I can’t :q.

Boxscape ,
@Boxscape@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Uh, just trying non-modal vim for the first time and… how do I quit it? I can’t :q.

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MyNameIsRichard ,
@MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml avatar

I’ve never tried modal vim because I’ve only just heard about it. The next thing I’d try is restarting the computer. Or Ctrl + Q whichever’s easier.

tetris11 ,
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Ctrl-q and then if it asks to save, type “no, fuck you”

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