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unknowing8343 ,

In every post of this kind I am amazed at so many people using nano instead of micro which is SO MUCH BETTER while being the same thing at the same time.

NOOBMASTER ,

isn’t there a separate instance for memes?

MouseKeyboard ,

gedit supremacy

m4m4m4m4 ,

The problem I had with nano is that, for the time being, it was supposed to be easy to use. With that in account I always get lost when saving a file and closing the thing because one’s used to doing something else with Ctrl+O and Ctrl+X.

Whereas with Vim (and Neovim for a little while, and now with Vis) I knew it had a steep learning curve from the start so I always had it in mind. And all the funny stories about quitting vim.

tetris11 ,
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they’ve changed those bindings now, Ctrl+S, Ctl+V, and Ctrl+C all do what you think they do

m4m4m4m4 ,

Great, now the next time I’ll use nano I surely will forget about this and get frustrated when trying to save a file with Ctrl+O

bizdelnick ,

Vim (or emacs, or any other advanced text editor) is much easier to use than nano when you need to do something more complex than type couple of lines.

tetris11 ,
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(…once you learn the bindings)

brokenlcd ,

Ed users entered the chat

Dasnap ,
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I started on Unix systems using Vim, so I find Nano to be the confusing editor. A Vim install is one of the first things I do on a new server.

jmcs ,

Easy is relative. What are you trying to do? Replace a value in an yaml file? Then nano is easier. Trying to refactor a business critical perl/brainfuck polyglot script in production? Then you probably want to use vim (or emacs if you are one of those people)

FMT99 ,

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/a3d98d02-b3e0-45fb-a7c5-871d12f19fee.png

mariusafa ,

Vscode is malware

sunbunman ,

VScodium is FOSS though

fluxion ,

IME?

GolfNovemberUniform ,
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I so would love to downvote this to oblivion.

737 ,

stop using vim, if you want a non modal editor use vim -y

rhys ,

Uh, just trying non-modal vim for the first time and… how do I quit it? I can’t :q.

Boxscape ,
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Uh, just trying non-modal vim for the first time and… how do I quit it? I can’t :q.

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MyNameIsRichard ,
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I’ve never tried modal vim because I’ve only just heard about it. The next thing I’d try is restarting the computer. Or Ctrl + Q whichever’s easier.

tetris11 ,
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Ctrl-q and then if it asks to save, type “no, fuck you”

dysprosium ,

For vim I had to config or install something just to be able to COPY something to use outside vim, how backwards is that? Isn’t this the most standard feature one can expect to work as default?

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    gnutrino ,

    Once again proving that the easiest way to work out how to do something in vim is to post something along the lines of “vim sucks because it can’t do x” online :)

    flying_gel ,

    You mean you couldn’t copy some text from vim and paste it into another application? if yes, what did you have to install/configure for that? I’ve never had any issues copy paste from/to vim, console/GUI windows/Unix.

    NeoNachtwaechter ,

    Nah… vim users fight emacs users, but not nano users. Wrong league. We do not beat little children ;)

    skittlebrau ,

    Nano is more like fast food. It’s easy and convenient, but it makes you feel a little guilty and dirty afterwards.

    sping ,

    And yet Emacs users don’t fight vim users. Emacs users decided vim’s interface was pretty cool and added it to Emacs. Somehow people still call it a war though.

    thingsiplay ,

    The Terminator is not here to kill you, its here to protect you from Emacs (which can change its form to anything).

    https://beehaw.org/pictrs/image/780de71b-d929-4c95-9b86-0bde3a949be3.webp

    tetris11 ,
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    Cmon dude, what’s most likely to be Skynet?

    • Vim: Clearly evil, lightning fast. Relies on vimscript for any interactivity and can barely be used outside of the editor.
    • Emacs: the hippie brain child of some of the brightest minds at the MIT AI lab, funded by military contracts. Slow, but uses a near-universal language that can easily escape the bounds of the editor, (and often does (, and holy shit where did those parentheses come from. (Oh no, it’s becoming self-aware… fly you fools!
    thingsiplay ,

    Vim: Clearly evil, lightning fast. Relies on vimscript for any interactivity and can barely be used outside of the editor.

    I don’t know why you want use Vimscript for anything outside of the editor. But if that your issue, then there is Neovim. It uses Lua instead Vimscript, but what is the benefit of using Lua outside of Vim? That changes nothing.

    tetris11 ,
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    Lua outside of Vim has huge applications in embedded products. Dude I would kill for Lua. Do you know what we have? Common Lisp. Yeah, it’s great and fancy and all, but try adding that to your CV and applying for an embedded system job.

    thingsiplay ,

    My point is, then use Lua outside of Vim. What does this have anything to do with the language used in Vim? You can use Vimscript in Vim, and still use Lua outside of Vim. So what’s the problem? It’s not like Lua gets available to you outside of Vim, just because you switch to Neovim. What do I miss here?

    tetris11 ,
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    (it was mostly a joke, but) the skills you acquire tinkering your Vim to your needs using vimscript can’t be used elsewhere, whereas Emacs has the (small) advantage that at least most of one’s elisp skills can be translated to common lisp quite easily (with the joke being that common lisp really isn’t that useful, hence my Lua jealousy rant).

    wesker ,
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    nano gang

    NegativeLookBehind ,
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    Gross

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