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sonori ,
@sonori@beehaw.org avatar

As a Fedora user I can confirm that this seems about right.

wesker ,
@wesker@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

The unhappiest people always want to tell you how to live your life.

thingsiplay ,

Because they don’t want you to make the same mistake.

wesker ,
@wesker@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

“I use arch so you don’t have to.”

thingsiplay ,

Such polls / surveys are extremely questionable. I wouldn’t even know what rating to give, if someone asks me how happy I am. This is a dumb question to ask to begin with. Let alone everyone has a different standard to what 10/10 or 5/10 means. And then only 6000 (+ some) have been taken part.

I can’t believe this was a real poll / survey.

superkret OP ,

The following data was obtained from polling done between January 22nd and February 9th, 2023. A few details about the polling conducted:
6,022 people answered the questions.
This is significantly larger than the vast majority of national polls conducted during Presidential Elections in the USA (most of which have less than 2,000 respondents).
The poll was presented to audiences of several shows and news sites in order to obtain a large, diverse sample of computer nerds.
The questions were wide-ranging, 100% optional, and no personal data was collected.

Let’s start from a very high level:
6,022 computer nerds & enthusiasts were asked the following simple question: “On a scale of 1 to 10, how happy would you say you are (in general)?”

lemmyvore ,

In polls the demographics of the participants are selected so they are statistically significant.

When you poll visitors to a website there’s no telling what biases might be at work. For example, Arch is a popular distribution so its prevalence in the results could simply be an indicator of that.

Last but not least, correlation does not necessarily mean causation, and that goes especially for an uncontrolled sample. There’s a famous example that says “100% of the people who drink water die after that”.

thingsiplay ,

You can’t compare to the President Elections in the USA. The answers are very serious and with a huge impact, so people will choose wisely. And they are complete randoms. Compared to the question to nerds how happy they are in a rating between 1 and 10 and then connecting the happiness to the operating system they are using. It’s like asking how happy people are and then connecting this to the current president. Who said other factors didn’t play a role?

Duke_Nukem_1990 ,

That was the longest “I am using arch btw” I have ever seen. And while I am on the topic, I am using arch btw.

thingsiplay ,

Not exactly, I use EndeavourOS, almost Arch. But I use Firefox, BTW. I was more unhappy when I used Ubuntu and even more when I was using Windows before this. No idea what rating to give though. What even is 8/10 happiness??

FatLegTed ,
@FatLegTed@piefed.social avatar

You made the post so I didn't have to!

thingsiplay ,

smart

adamsdesk ,
@adamsdesk@fosstodon.org avatar

@thingsiplay @superkret Here! Here!

Babbiorsetto ,
@Babbiorsetto@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

You can just take it for what it is: How people respond when asked to grade their happiness from 1 to 10. Of course it’s subjective, but it’s interesting that arch users rate their happiness lower overall.

thingsiplay ,

I think its bullshit. There is no way of verifying if this is bullshit or not.

astro_ray ,

Same. I call bullshit. First of all, for me Lunduke = Bullshit. Second, the moment it said people voluntarily participated in this survey, you just know that the demography of the survey takers will be extremely biased.

Zucca ,

Also the graph is pretty much zoomed in. It exaggerates the differences between the bars.

arisunz ,
@arisunz@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

also it’s reported on by lunduke so it should be immediately discarded

BestBouclettes ,

That’s strange, apart from installing it, Arch is pretty painless to run if you’re not careless

Dave ,
@Dave@lemmy.nz avatar

You’re assuming that Arch causes the unhappiness. Maybe unhappy people naturally tend to use Arch, so as to avoid further pain from painful distros like Pop! OS?.

BestBouclettes ,

Oh shit, I was miserable back when I installed Arch. Dang, you might be onto something there!

astro_ray ,

So… Arch makes sad people happy…?

magic_lobster_party ,

No, that’s just bloat feelings

Dirk ,
@Dirk@lemmy.ml avatar

I wonder if Arch makes people unhappy or if unhappy people chose Arch.

superkret OP ,

Looking at the distro/happiness graph, it’s probably an age thing.
Younger computer users are less happy.

moonlight ,

Probably the latter. I've been a two or three on the scale since before I used Arch or Firefox.

Floshie ,

I knew it I should’ve chosen Gentoo instead of arch

Rozauhtuno ,
@Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

lunduke

Oh. bye 👋

traches ,

Bryan „trans people choosing pronouns is like the Picard 4 lights torture scene” Lunduke

vintageballs ,

I’m ootl I think, what did he do?

SexualPolytope ,
@SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Take a look at this.

ulkesh ,
@ulkesh@beehaw.org avatar

Exactly.

Technotica ,
@Technotica@lemmy.world avatar

I use Arch! How dare you say that I am unhappy? I am frothing at my mouth! I am totally happy, can’t you see that? CAN’T YOU SEE THAT???

TheBigBrother ,

Happily using Pop! OS, cheers!!

Blaster_M ,

Looks like I need to consider flipping back to Debian again… it’s always beeen a Stable relationship…

apotheotic ,

I guess the nixos users were all too busy asking everyone if they’ve heard of nixos to answer the survey?

BTW have you heard of nixos?

TheGrandNagus ,

I’m immensely sceptical of anything that comes from Lunduke.

I don’t really know what happened to him but he went kinda nuts.

pH3ra ,
@pH3ra@lemmy.ml avatar

Yeah, he was already on a weird path but after Covid he went down really hard.
I hope he will seek help and get better

SexualPolytope ,
@SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Nicco Loves Linux made a pretty interesting video on him a month-ish ago. You might enjoy it if you’ve known Lunduke since when he was still nice.

Edit: Link to the video

TheGrandNagus ,

This seemed interesting to me, so I prepared a cup of tea, sat down to watch, then quickly realised I’ve already seen this before, oops 😅

Thanks for the link regardless, I’m sure others are seeing it for the first time

smackjack ,

I used to enjoy listening to him on YouTube simply because he didn’t yell in his videos like every other YouTuber. He had a bit of a Bob Ross vibe to him, but then he went off the deep end.

Engywuck ,

That’s why I use Arch but avoid Firefox. Balance is the key.

FatLegTed ,
@FatLegTed@piefed.social avatar

What would you recommend instead of Firefox?

Engywuck ,

I’m done recommending stuff, because my use case is not necessarily your use case. I can only tell you that Brave is the sweet spot for me, at the moment.

FatLegTed ,
@FatLegTed@piefed.social avatar

I get what you mean, we all have different requirements, didn't expect Brave, though. It's getting a lot of flak lately.

Thanks anyway; -)

MajorHavoc ,

The real data point here is that Skackware users are happy.

I suspect it’s because they’ve mastered the art of not giving a fuck.

superkret OP ,

Yeah, that’s pretty spot on.

GolfNovemberUniform ,
@GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml avatar

Even though most people don’t agree with the stats, I think it makes sense because Arch users are never satisfied with their setup. It could cause many of them to choose an average number.

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