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narc0tic_bird ,

This is one of those correlation != causation things, hm?

It might be more a case of the “average” Arch user being more sensitive to small quirks/bugs or certain defaults. Arch is at least comparatively unbiased, which might be why these users pick Arch in the first place.

I would personally agree with where Arch is because I prefer a distribution that mostly works out of the box and already made a lot of the decisions for me that I don’t want to be bothered with. I do still customize quite a few elements to my (sometimes very specific) liking, but I also like that I don’t have to do anything when it comes to configuring my disk layout, or configuring zram, or install and configure fwupd or other packages that kind of just make sense to have.

But I don’t really see why Arch users can’t be as happy with their choice as I am with mine, unless the only reason they “use Arch btw” is that they think that’s unironically something to brag about (or peer pressure, but that shouldn’t be a thing I hope).

superkret OP , (edited )

This is just fun with statistics. I don’t think your Linux distro has a big impact on your overall happiness in life, but of course you can order the results by any parameter you like.
Often, it’s a third factor that influences both, in this case probably age, which influences happiness and distro choice.
Or maybe having the time and inclination to install Arch correlates with being in a bad place in your life right now.
I know I was tinkering with Linux all day when I was procrastinating and locked away in my room for days.

TimeSquirrel ,
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org avatar

in this case probably age

Arch: for the young'uns with some fire left in them that just discovered open source and want to stick it to M$ and show off in front of friends.

Debian: When those people grow up and start having to do actual work on their computers...

I went through that cycle over the last 25 years. Thought I was hot shit running Slackware on a ThinkPad 380 when all my friends were on Windows 98. Then I got better things to do than running configure scripts all day and tweaking the UI yet again.

Bitrot ,
@Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I installed Gentoo on an already ancient IBM Thinkpad with a Pentium 100. It had to use Debian boot floppies to kick off the installation process.

I don’t think I’d do that today.

superkret OP ,

I run Slackware because I got better things to do than configure my system.
The installation was a bit more involved than Debian cause you have to set up grub and install flatpak yourself, but then it just sits there, works and never really changes, which is nice.
It’s designed to not surprise you and let you do with it whatever you want, including nothing.

myersguy ,

As a user of Debian and Arch: I don’t know how to feel

RiikkaTheIcePrincess ,
@RiikkaTheIcePrincess@pawb.social avatar

having the time and inclination to install Arch correlates with being in a bad place in your life right now.

True for me. I’m using Arch because I don’t have a system that can run Gentoo ;P

Actually I’ve oscillated between the two for many years. Every few years I switch to the other one and enjoy it for a few. … Only, now I’m stuck on a laptop that would melt if I tried to put Gentoo on it v.v I hope some day I will have a real computer again v.v Among other things 😅 😞

simpleguy ,
@simpleguy@cuddly.space avatar

@superkret But where is nixos?

filister ,

Under 6 😜

simpleguy ,
@simpleguy@cuddly.space avatar

@filister Above 7.5 and in right side of graph (not in picture) 😅😂

Amphobet ,
@Amphobet@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Let’s go Pop!_OS! We’re #2! We’re #2!

ryannathans ,

Coming for #1 baby

nossaquesapao ,

That will happen after the stable release of cosmic de

dataprolet ,
@dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Correlation vs. causality!?

nyan ,

Exactly what I was thinking. “People who are already less happy tend to gravitate towards Firefox” is as valid a takeaway from those graphs as anything else. (Also, where are all the other browsers? I’d expect Edge and Safari, at least, to be represented, even if Vivaldi and various Firefox forks were not.)

kbal ,
@kbal@fedia.io avatar

Haha silly Manjaro users, only 6.83 happy while I am 6.93 happy as a Debian user. My Linux knowledge is clearly superior to most, not counting those excessively happy freaks running Slackware.

sandayle ,
@sandayle@lemmy.ml avatar

İgnorance is bliss

zod000 ,

These results seem freaking bizarre and I’m highly skeptical. You’re telling me that Slackware users, freaking SLACKWARE, are the happiest? And Firefox is the least happy? I am so much happier using Firefox than have been with Chrome for at least a decade.

superkret OP ,

The question wasn’t how happy users are with their distro, but in general. My theory is, people who have a lot of great things going on in their life (wife, kids, social life) don’t bother installing Arch.

Xyre ,

Wow, no need to make this personal. /s

zod000 ,

I wonder if people using steam decks know they are running Arch.

drwho ,
@drwho@beehaw.org avatar

I’m not sure if that’ll be good or bad.

AlpacaChariot ,

And people who have no time install gentoo? Pull the other one :D

nyan ,

Gentoo installation is time-consuming, but Gentoo maintenance usually isn’t. Just allocate portage a couple of cores while you do something else with the rest of the computer. Or leave the update to run overnight, if you’re on a potato.

unn ,

How is that different from Arch other than being an actual PITA having to compile stuff?

drwho ,
@drwho@beehaw.org avatar

You’d be surprised.

nexussapphire ,

Yeah, I just set it and forget it. Understand I started using Linux with a really new system and an Nvidia card so archlinux was just soo much easier than hacking away at a distro too old to support my hardware.

My system is older now but I’m just going to leave it on there because other distros kind of do things I don’t like, small things but still enough for me to stick with arch.

troyunrau ,
@troyunrau@lemmy.ca avatar

As a former slackware aficionado, I’d have to say that the general mood of the users and development team was super chill. Hell, the name slackware comes from “slack”, the goal of the Church of the SubGenius. The whole thing is a meme that’s been going steady for decades.

I had the privilege of meeting Patrick and much of the core Slackware group at the KDE 4.0 release party. They are all awesome.

I can expect that users that tolerate the Slackware style are also those that are pretty laid back to begin with. Probably they were happier people already, and using slackware just vibes with them.

nyan ,

So of the three happiest distros, two aren’t very concerned with mainstream appeal and will carry on contentedly doing their thing while ignoring rankings like this. Sounds about right.

delopa ,

It looks like it’s about doing real work instead of tweaking your distro 🫠

SaltyIceteaMaker ,

I am running arch and Firefox and i can confirm i am miserable.

I love it tho

AutomaticUpdates ,
@AutomaticUpdates@monero.town avatar

We are miserable because we are disillusioned.

nexussapphire ,

Miserable because Grandma hasn’t figured it out yet.😆

unn ,

I’m miserable because I spend all my time tinkering the computer instead of doing anything actually useful: NixOS, GNU Emacs, Xmonad

superkret OP ,

I feel like this post would have been downvoted a lot less if I had altered the title to “Slackware users are the happiest!😊”

limelight79 ,

Whoa. So I grew up on Slackware but switched to Debian some time ago, and I can say I’m MUCH happier on Debian. The dependency hell on Slackware just killed it for me. I know they have some management of it now, but I just couldn’t take it any more - I was spending way more time administering the machine. I held my breath updating, which made me reluctant to update, which isn’t a good thing from a security point of view…

MajorHavoc ,

Yeah. My journey was similar. I appreciate the philosophy behind Slackware, but I don’t feel like I have the kind of spare time I feel like I would need to run my systems that way.

limelight79 ,

I think, for me, the proverbial straw was the Unifi controller. I was just like, “No. I can’t do this. I don’t want to do this.” My desktop was running Kubuntu at the time, so installing it on there temporarily was a breeze (confirming I was making the right choice), until I got the server switched to Debian.

ulkesh ,
@ulkesh@beehaw.org avatar

Oh look, another Lunduke article. I’m sure there’s no bias at all. Nope.

In any case, I adore Arch and Firefox and am extremely happy with my Garuda install.

ReakDuck ,

Bro, I rage at Ubuntu. Literally. Kinda unhappy when at work and using my Kubuntu.

(But unhappiest with Windows)

At home, 4 Devices use Arch Linux and I am the happiest person on earth with them. I love knowing how I set them up and how to fix something when broken.

I reinstalled Windoes 4 times because it somehow broke, while I still kept my Arch Linux through over 4 years.

(Generally, I dont tinker much with Arch Linux and generally was a Person who spent a lot of time with a Girlfriend. I read that wife, kids and etc was a point. Thus, I am mentioning how satisfied I am not only with my OS but life too. I also love my work, I just ignore that Ubuntu breaks sometimes. But generally, I wished I would be hsing Arch on my work)

rozodru ,
@rozodru@lemmy.ca avatar

oh Bryan Lunduke? can someone spare me a grain of salt before I click the link? appreciaet it.

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