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zod000 ,

These results seem freaking bizarre and I’m highly skeptical. You’re telling me that Slackware users, freaking SLACKWARE, are the happiest? And Firefox is the least happy? I am so much happier using Firefox than have been with Chrome for at least a decade.

superkret OP ,

The question wasn’t how happy users are with their distro, but in general. My theory is, people who have a lot of great things going on in their life (wife, kids, social life) don’t bother installing Arch.

Xyre ,

Wow, no need to make this personal. /s

zod000 ,

I wonder if people using steam decks know they are running Arch.

drwho ,
@drwho@beehaw.org avatar

I’m not sure if that’ll be good or bad.

AlpacaChariot ,

And people who have no time install gentoo? Pull the other one :D

drwho ,
@drwho@beehaw.org avatar

You’d be surprised.

ReakDuck ,

Bro, I rage at Ubuntu. Literally. Kinda unhappy when at work and using my Kubuntu.

(But unhappiest with Windows)

At home, 4 Devices use Arch Linux and I am the happiest person on earth with them. I love knowing how I set them up and how to fix something when broken.

I reinstalled Windoes 4 times because it somehow broke, while I still kept my Arch Linux through over 4 years.

(Generally, I dont tinker much with Arch Linux and generally was a Person who spent a lot of time with a Girlfriend. I read that wife, kids and etc was a point. Thus, I am mentioning how satisfied I am not only with my OS but life too. I also love my work, I just ignore that Ubuntu breaks sometimes. But generally, I wished I would be hsing Arch on my work)

Rozauhtuno ,
@Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

lunduke

Oh. bye 👋

traches ,

Bryan „trans people choosing pronouns is like the Picard 4 lights torture scene” Lunduke

vintageballs ,

I’m ootl I think, what did he do?

SexualPolytope ,
@SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org avatar
ulkesh ,
@ulkesh@beehaw.org avatar

Exactly.

ulkesh ,
@ulkesh@beehaw.org avatar

Oh look, another Lunduke article. I’m sure there’s no bias at all. Nope.

In any case, I adore Arch and Firefox and am extremely happy with my Garuda install.

wesker ,
@wesker@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

The unhappiest people always want to tell you how to live your life.

thingsiplay ,

Because they don’t want you to make the same mistake.

wesker ,
@wesker@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

“I use arch so you don’t have to.”

limelight79 ,

Whoa. So I grew up on Slackware but switched to Debian some time ago, and I can say I’m MUCH happier on Debian. The dependency hell on Slackware just killed it for me. I know they have some management of it now, but I just couldn’t take it any more - I was spending way more time administering the machine. I held my breath updating, which made me reluctant to update, which isn’t a good thing from a security point of view…

superkret OP ,

I feel like this post would have been downvoted a lot less if I had altered the title to “Slackware users are the happiest!😊”

SaltyIceteaMaker ,

I am running arch and Firefox and i can confirm i am miserable.

I love it tho

TheGrandNagus ,

I’m immensely sceptical of anything that comes from Lunduke.

I don’t really know what happened to him but he went kinda nuts.

pH3ra ,
@pH3ra@lemmy.ml avatar

Yeah, he was already on a weird path but after Covid he went down really hard.
I hope he will seek help and get better

SexualPolytope ,
@SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Nicco Loves Linux made a pretty interesting video on him a month-ish ago. You might enjoy it if you’ve known Lunduke since when he was still nice.

Edit: Link to the video

TheGrandNagus ,

This seemed interesting to me, so I prepared a cup of tea, sat down to watch, then quickly realised I’ve already seen this before, oops 😅

Thanks for the link regardless, I’m sure others are seeing it for the first time

smackjack ,

I used to enjoy listening to him on YouTube simply because he didn’t yell in his videos like every other YouTuber. He had a bit of a Bob Ross vibe to him, but then he went off the deep end.

delopa ,

It looks like it’s about doing real work instead of tweaking your distro 🫠

nyan ,

So of the three happiest distros, two aren’t very concerned with mainstream appeal and will carry on contentedly doing their thing while ignoring rankings like this. Sounds about right.

dataprolet ,
@dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Correlation vs. causality!?

nyan ,

Exactly what I was thinking. “People who are already less happy tend to gravitate towards Firefox” is as valid a takeaway from those graphs as anything else. (Also, where are all the other browsers? I’d expect Edge and Safari, at least, to be represented, even if Vivaldi and various Firefox forks were not.)

thingsiplay ,

Such polls / surveys are extremely questionable. I wouldn’t even know what rating to give, if someone asks me how happy I am. This is a dumb question to ask to begin with. Let alone everyone has a different standard to what 10/10 or 5/10 means. And then only 6000 (+ some) have been taken part.

I can’t believe this was a real poll / survey.

superkret OP ,

The following data was obtained from polling done between January 22nd and February 9th, 2023. A few details about the polling conducted:
6,022 people answered the questions.
This is significantly larger than the vast majority of national polls conducted during Presidential Elections in the USA (most of which have less than 2,000 respondents).
The poll was presented to audiences of several shows and news sites in order to obtain a large, diverse sample of computer nerds.
The questions were wide-ranging, 100% optional, and no personal data was collected.

Let’s start from a very high level:
6,022 computer nerds & enthusiasts were asked the following simple question: “On a scale of 1 to 10, how happy would you say you are (in general)?”

lemmyvore ,

In polls the demographics of the participants are selected so they are statistically significant.

When you poll visitors to a website there’s no telling what biases might be at work. For example, Arch is a popular distribution so its prevalence in the results could simply be an indicator of that.

Last but not least, correlation does not necessarily mean causation, and that goes especially for an uncontrolled sample. There’s a famous example that says “100% of the people who drink water die after that”.

thingsiplay ,

You can’t compare to the President Elections in the USA. The answers are very serious and with a huge impact, so people will choose wisely. And they are complete randoms. Compared to the question to nerds how happy they are in a rating between 1 and 10 and then connecting the happiness to the operating system they are using. It’s like asking how happy people are and then connecting this to the current president. Who said other factors didn’t play a role?

Duke_Nukem_1990 ,

That was the longest “I am using arch btw” I have ever seen. And while I am on the topic, I am using arch btw.

thingsiplay ,

Not exactly, I use EndeavourOS, almost Arch. But I use Firefox, BTW. I was more unhappy when I used Ubuntu and even more when I was using Windows before this. No idea what rating to give though. What even is 8/10 happiness??

FatLegTed ,
@FatLegTed@piefed.social avatar

You made the post so I didn't have to!

thingsiplay ,

smart

adamsdesk ,
@adamsdesk@fosstodon.org avatar

@thingsiplay @superkret Here! Here!

Babbiorsetto ,
@Babbiorsetto@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

You can just take it for what it is: How people respond when asked to grade their happiness from 1 to 10. Of course it’s subjective, but it’s interesting that arch users rate their happiness lower overall.

thingsiplay ,

I think its bullshit. There is no way of verifying if this is bullshit or not.

astro_ray ,

Same. I call bullshit. First of all, for me Lunduke = Bullshit. Second, the moment it said people voluntarily participated in this survey, you just know that the demography of the survey takers will be extremely biased.

Zucca ,

Also the graph is pretty much zoomed in. It exaggerates the differences between the bars.

arisunz ,
@arisunz@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

also it’s reported on by lunduke so it should be immediately discarded

sandayle ,
@sandayle@lemmy.ml avatar

İgnorance is bliss

kbal ,
@kbal@fedia.io avatar

Haha silly Manjaro users, only 6.83 happy while I am 6.93 happy as a Debian user. My Linux knowledge is clearly superior to most, not counting those excessively happy freaks running Slackware.

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