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KindaABigDyl , in That Computer Scientist - Nix is the New Arch!
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I use Nix btw

sntx ,

I use a reproducible, declarative and reliable system btw.

I also use flakes btw.

TheAnonymouseJoker , in Moving away from RHEL based distros, whats good ?
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Debian

Debian 12 Bookworm is their best release ever, and I am seeing a lot of positive opinions about it suddenly. It may be a Ubuntu 16.04 moment.

eoli3n ,
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Details ?

TheAnonymouseJoker ,
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Go check The Linux Experiment’s video, among a lot of other videos and discussion forums.

eoli3n ,
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Those are not “details”, but “blur sources”.

TheAnonymouseJoker ,
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Have you bothered to research the consensus and what Debian’s new release has? Literally 2 minutes away if you search internet instead of replying. Do not expect spoonfeeding.

eoli3n ,
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Bla bla bla, so much energy to just not give what I ask for.

iuseit ,

I love debian now

ghariksforge , in Liftoff! - 🐒 A mobile client for Lemmy (Android/iOS/Windows/Linux)

Looks promising! Is it on FDroid?

ShakaWhenRedditFell ,
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Not yet but you can get it via Obtainium for example.

loudWaterEnjoyer , in Liftoff! - 🐒 A mobile client for Lemmy (Android/iOS/Windows/Linux)
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Can’t login, it says my password is incorrect

Edit: before someone tells me to put in my correct password, I use copy&paste from a password manager

chaorace ,
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Is your password longer than 60 characters? If so, you should know that your actual password was truncated to 60 chars at the time of account creation. You won’t notice on the website because the login webform automatically truncates characters beyond the limit, but most 3rd-party apps don’t do this because it’s an undocumented thing.

Basically, my advice would be to update the password in your password manager to be truncated to 60 characters and then try logging in with the app again.

loudWaterEnjoyer ,
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That was actually the thing, thanks a lot.

chaorace ,
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Oh man, the feeling of solving an obscure issue on the first try without having to ask for any extra hints: chef’s kiss. I’m glad I could be of assistance!

eric , in RHEL no longer open source
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Does this affect Fedora?

shreddy_scientist ,
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It doesn’t seem like it, RHEL is based on Fedora. Fedora is beta RHEL more or less. But Alma, Rocky and Scientific Linux will all be in trouble as they’re based on RHEL. Or at least that’s what I make of it

riskable , in Liftoff! - 🐒 A mobile client for Lemmy (Android/iOS/Windows/Linux)
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You might want to rename it considering that a company named Liftoff Software exists and has a trademark on the the term, “liftoff” pertaining to software.

zachatrocity ,
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Seems like their trademark is actually on SAAS offerings. I think we’ll be fine

riskable ,
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The trademark category is for “software”. There’s no distinction between SaaS and an app. They’re the same thing from a trademark standing.

zachatrocity ,
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Could you be more specific a little more specific and helpful?

This was the closest I could find:

tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4808…

B20bob , in Liftoff! - 🐒 A mobile client for Lemmy (Android/iOS/Windows/Linux)
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I’ve tried just about all of the current apps that are available for lemmy over the last two days and so far liftoff feels the most like a usable app to me. To ve fair, I know that a lot of rhe apps I tried are still in alpha or beta, so I’m not trying to talk bad about them, I get it. Liftoff is pretty good though.

PCChipsM922U ,
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Yep, agreed. Just tried it, and if it wasn’t for the Subscribed feed not loading bug, I’d use this instead of Jerboa.

zachatrocity ,
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Which bug is that? I haven’t seen that in the issue tracker, could you share details and I’ll prioritize that.

PCChipsM922U ,
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The Subscribed feed is showing up empty. Other settings regarding the feed work fine, but the Subscribed feed is broken. Also, replies showing up as double replies, one below the other, once you reply to a post.

And you could make the search menu a bit more… friendly. Currently you have to add instances in order to search for communities in them. Not practical at all, there are hundreds of instances, if I had to add each one in order to search in them, that will just take way too long. Why not have instance and communities auto-discoverable, like in Jerboa (type in search the community you’re lookimg for, results pop up).

zachatrocity ,
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About the search menu… unless I’m mis understanding that’s just how Lemmy works. You have to be subscribed or at least have search for a community outside of your instance before you can interact with it within your instance.

PCChipsM922U ,
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Actually, no. If at least one user from your instance has subscribed to a community of another instance, that other instance’s communities show up in your search results (they are federated)… at least that is how it should work 100% of the time, but it doesn’t. In most cases, it doesn’t actually show all of the communities that would show up during a search, meaning the web UI would return a lot more results.

The method you’re using is actually a safe bet: specify the instace’s URL and don’t have to rely on whether that specific instance is federated with my instance, just search for communities there as well. That approach is easier if you actually have a link to the community which you’d like to add and the instance on which it resides. But, if you have no idea on what instance that community might reside, it’s easier to actually seach for it via the web UI, which I hoped would be implemented in an app sooner or later (having relevant results I mean).

zachatrocity ,
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Yeah I’m wanting to implement that into liftoff. That’s the main feature I’ve been wanting in apps.

To clarify this app is a resurrection of an abandoned Lemmy app, when this app was active Lemmy was not as popular and we didn’t have massive instances like Lemmy world. Working through this is a fun challenge but it’s also a user experience challenge. What instance are you having issues with?

OldFartPhil , in Red Hat strikes a crushing blow against RHEL downstreams
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This seems like a golden opportunity for distros like Suse and Ubuntu, who offer enterprise support for their free product, to poach some RHEL customers.

AgreeableLandscape OP ,
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I wish Ol’ Debian would get the love it deserves, especially for enterprise where their “stability over the latest flashiest software” philosophy should really shine. People on the desktop side criticizing how slowly Debian packages update is generally responded with “well it’s a server OS first and foremost, the Debian derivatives are more suited for desktop,” so why does no one use Debian for servers? And as far as I know Debian has always prioritized stability and reliability above anything else, and have never pulled any sort of corporate antics even close to what Canonical and Red Hat have pulled.

this_is_router ,
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I’m using it. Almost 200 servers at work. No problems whatsoever. I almost smile reading news like this, because it shows me I did the right thing betting on debian

vanderbilt , in Red Hat strikes a crushing blow against RHEL downstreams
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I literally just got Rocky installed on two servers. We were going to field test before migrating to a paid subscription. That sure as hell isn’t happening now. If IBM cannot help but to bite the hand that fed it, then I have little confidence they aren’t going to turn into another Oracle.

Laser ,

If IBM cannot help but to bite the hand that fed it

Which hand was feeding them and how are they biting it?

Idc about IBM but the saying makes little sense to me here. It’s not like Ubuntu annoying Debian which at one point was their upstream. They find upstream up to fedora and beyond.

If anything, Distros like Alma and Rocky bite the hand that feeds them by offering paid support contracts. Nothing is illegal about that. But I think the saying fits the reverse better.

vanderbilt ,
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You make a good point. I imagine RedHat is doing this less because of Rocky/Alma, and more so because of Oracle.

Mars7x , in Moving away from RHEL based distros, whats good ?
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I haven’t been keeping up, what happened?

pezhore ,
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www.jeffgeerling.com/…/dear-red-hat-are-you-dumb

TL;DR - RedHat is going to wall off all their code/packages behind a paywall meaning the only way to use RedHat is with a paid subscription.

Mars7x ,
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Well that sucks.

Do you know if they will still contribute upstream?

shreddy_scientist ,
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Based on my understanding, Fedora will be unaffected but Rocky & Alma are in some hot water along with Scientific Linux. RHEL is based on Fedora while the others are based on RHEL.

VE3VVS , in NixOS is Mindblowing by Chris Titus
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Just because I’m interested in the hole NixOS thing, I was wondering how much difference there is between NixOS and Guix, I know I’ve spun both up in a VM and while they are similar, Guix is different enough that I can’t find the main config file. So can someone give me a quick description of the difference?

choroalp ,

Guix is NIx but its configured in Lisp.

Mereo , in KDE Social - Friendly lemmy instance for the KDE community

Woohoo! I hope a lot of FOSS project have their own Lemmy/Kbin instance. Reddit, a capitalist platform, is no place for them.

PainInTheAES ,

Klemmy/Kbin lol

simple , in Is the out-of-the-box quality of desktop-focused Linux distros declining recently?
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  • Kaldo ,
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    Linux Mint is also good, but it does feel a little outdated.

    Just aesthetics or do you mean from the technical side?

    simple ,
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    Mostly aesthetically, but also since Linux Mint is a very stable distro updates are usually slow and the packages it uses are often a little outdated. If you're the type of person to want to update to the newest thing as soon as it's out, then it's probably not for you.

    techviator , in On Monday morning we (Mozilla) detected a very large crash spike affecting Firefox users on Linux, specifically on an older version of a Debian-based distribution
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    Here’s the rest of the thread (should open entirely from the first link, but posting all 6 links just in case):

    (1/6) fosstodon.org/@gabrielesvelto/110592904713090347

    (2/6) fosstodon.org/@gabrielesvelto/110592906325095640

    (3/6) fosstodon.org/@gabrielesvelto/110592907269834415

    (4/6) fosstodon.org/@gabrielesvelto/110592908903430968

    (5/6) fosstodon.org/@gabrielesvelto/110592909828889441

    (6/6) fosstodon.org/@gabrielesvelto/110592910420926394

    x3i , in Tearing protocol merged for XWayland. Wayland gets closer to being suitable for gaming purposes

    As someone who games exclusively (okay, except fucking PUBG) on Linux and Wayland for two years now, I find the implicit claim that (x)Wayland would not be suitable for Linux pretty misleading. The problem is that this is repeated a lot throughout the community, mainly by people who haven’t tried it recently. However, good for the few people that need that feature!

    UrbenLegend OP ,

    I feel like you’re just doing the same thing but from the other side. You’re dismissing other people’s experiences with Wayland simply because it doesn’t line up with what you’re personally seeing on your specific hardware.

    On my Radeon 680M, Wayland has been an absolute no-go for gaming in terms of input latency and frame pacing. I tried it with Valheim and God of War in KDE Wayland and the performance is drastically worse than KDE X11. Other games like Spiderman Miles Morales show less of a performance gap, but it’s still there. And yes I tried it very recently.

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