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vanderbilt , in Red Hat strikes a crushing blow against RHEL downstreams
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I literally just got Rocky installed on two servers. We were going to field test before migrating to a paid subscription. That sure as hell isn’t happening now. If IBM cannot help but to bite the hand that fed it, then I have little confidence they aren’t going to turn into another Oracle.

Laser ,

If IBM cannot help but to bite the hand that fed it

Which hand was feeding them and how are they biting it?

Idc about IBM but the saying makes little sense to me here. It’s not like Ubuntu annoying Debian which at one point was their upstream. They find upstream up to fedora and beyond.

If anything, Distros like Alma and Rocky bite the hand that feeds them by offering paid support contracts. Nothing is illegal about that. But I think the saying fits the reverse better.

vanderbilt ,
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You make a good point. I imagine RedHat is doing this less because of Rocky/Alma, and more so because of Oracle.

Mars7x , in Moving away from RHEL based distros, whats good ?
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I haven’t been keeping up, what happened?

pezhore ,
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www.jeffgeerling.com/…/dear-red-hat-are-you-dumb

TL;DR - RedHat is going to wall off all their code/packages behind a paywall meaning the only way to use RedHat is with a paid subscription.

Mars7x ,
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Well that sucks.

Do you know if they will still contribute upstream?

shreddy_scientist ,
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Based on my understanding, Fedora will be unaffected but Rocky & Alma are in some hot water along with Scientific Linux. RHEL is based on Fedora while the others are based on RHEL.

VE3VVS , in NixOS is Mindblowing by Chris Titus
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Just because I’m interested in the hole NixOS thing, I was wondering how much difference there is between NixOS and Guix, I know I’ve spun both up in a VM and while they are similar, Guix is different enough that I can’t find the main config file. So can someone give me a quick description of the difference?

choroalp ,

Guix is NIx but its configured in Lisp.

Mereo , in KDE Social - Friendly lemmy instance for the KDE community

Woohoo! I hope a lot of FOSS project have their own Lemmy/Kbin instance. Reddit, a capitalist platform, is no place for them.

PainInTheAES ,

Klemmy/Kbin lol

simple , in Is the out-of-the-box quality of desktop-focused Linux distros declining recently?
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  • Kaldo ,
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    Linux Mint is also good, but it does feel a little outdated.

    Just aesthetics or do you mean from the technical side?

    simple ,
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    Mostly aesthetically, but also since Linux Mint is a very stable distro updates are usually slow and the packages it uses are often a little outdated. If you're the type of person to want to update to the newest thing as soon as it's out, then it's probably not for you.

    techviator , in On Monday morning we (Mozilla) detected a very large crash spike affecting Firefox users on Linux, specifically on an older version of a Debian-based distribution
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    Here’s the rest of the thread (should open entirely from the first link, but posting all 6 links just in case):

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    x3i , in Tearing protocol merged for XWayland. Wayland gets closer to being suitable for gaming purposes

    As someone who games exclusively (okay, except fucking PUBG) on Linux and Wayland for two years now, I find the implicit claim that (x)Wayland would not be suitable for Linux pretty misleading. The problem is that this is repeated a lot throughout the community, mainly by people who haven’t tried it recently. However, good for the few people that need that feature!

    UrbenLegend OP ,

    I feel like you’re just doing the same thing but from the other side. You’re dismissing other people’s experiences with Wayland simply because it doesn’t line up with what you’re personally seeing on your specific hardware.

    On my Radeon 680M, Wayland has been an absolute no-go for gaming in terms of input latency and frame pacing. I tried it with Valheim and God of War in KDE Wayland and the performance is drastically worse than KDE X11. Other games like Spiderman Miles Morales show less of a performance gap, but it’s still there. And yes I tried it very recently.

    FrankTheHealer , in Dear Red Hat: Are you dumb?

    Yeah fuck this move. Seems incredibly short sighted and a huge fuck you to the community.

    rustbuckett ,
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    @FrankTheHealer @REdOG I guess Debian based distros win.

    domi ,
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    Is there even a Debian based distro that is up to date like Fedora, does not have snaps and does not have “Unstable” in its name?

    BubblyMango ,

    Siduction. It is rolling release though.

    fulano ,

    Just checked their website and it seems like they’re using debian sid packages. What’s the difference between using siduction and plain debian sid, besides having a preconfigured desktop?

    BubblyMango ,

    I never used siduction, im juat aware of its existence. I think they add some stability(=reliability) on top of sid and also keep updating packages during sid’s freezes. Dont quote me on this.

    Bene7rddso ,

    Mint?

    domi ,
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    Does Mint still use the Ubuntu packages?

    As @addie mentioned they are way out of date for gaming on AMD, especially if you purchase a new GPU at some point.

    I switched from Ubuntu to Fedora when I got my 6900 XT because it would have taken another 2-3 months for Ubuntu to catch up to a kernel version where I could use it.

    nan ,
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    Mint is also based on Ubuntu LTS, so it is way behind Fedora by the time another release comes out. I like it as a distro but it doesn’t meet the request.

    bishopolis ,

    consider PCLinuxOS for a mageia (mandriva, conectiva and mandrake, both branches from RedHat pre-Enterprise Linux) descendant.

    RL_Dane , in Dear Red Hat: Are you dumb?
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    @REdOG

    IBM: We poured money and resources into Linux before 99% of the business world had even heard of it. We helped make it great. Why shouldn't we require a return on that investment?

    PLEASE UNDERSTAND, I think IBM/RH is bone-headed as heck and are now inexcusable violators of the GPL, and other licenses.

    I knew they were going to break RH and make it something abominable.

    But they were there at the very beginning of the 2000s, promoting Linux heavily. (Not altruistically, of course)

    art ,
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    This is not a violation of the GPL. They are allowed to charge for access to the source. If you provide binaries/images to a customer, you also must provide source. However, anyone who doesn’t pay isn’t entitled to it.

    However, this is still a total bonehead move.

    digdilem , in Thoughts on RHEL going closed source ?

    As someone who admins around 200 Rocky 8/9 and Centos 7 servers, this is a little concerning.

    But I have a lot of faith in Rocky and Alma, who are reportedly working together, in coming up with a solution to ensure they continue getting security fixes and updates.

    Redhat are steadily turning into every bit as anti-competitive and, well, evil, as Oracle used to be. It's a shame as they used to do a lot for the FOSS world. Now they seem content to profit from it and give nothing back.

    carlwgeorge ,

    Now they seem content to profit from it and give nothing back.

    This statement is completely false. Red Hat contributes a ton to open source, to thousands of upstream projects, probably more than any other individual company. Software from Red Hat acquisitions has been transitioned from closed to open source. New open source software is often created by Red Hat engineers. Everything Red Hat does is open source and contributed back upstream whenever possible.

    To be clear, me saying this is not an endorsement of the RHEL source export changes announced yesterday. I think that sucks. But it doesn’t undo everything else Red Hat does.

    ulu_mulu , in Dear Red Hat: Are you dumb?
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    It’s most probably IBM forcing it, but yeah it’s dumb.

    staticlifetime ,
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    I don't know about that. IBM is traditionally stupid, yeah, but they wanted Red Hat for a reason. The CentOS debacle altogether was Red Hat, not IBM, and I don't think they are doing too much day to day operational mandates for stuff like this. I would not be surprised if this was just a Red Hat thing. I know it's easy to blame IBM, but I don't think it's that simple.

    pete ,

    Lol, redhat is just butt hurt they lost the NASA Linux contract to rocky

    corsicanguppy ,

    I’m absolutely not surprised that NASA took CentOS-in-more-than-name over the people who are trying to kill Enterprise Linux.

    nan ,
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    NASA did their contract beforehand.

    And it was only for a few workstations, still I think it caused Red Hat to panic. Government is a big customer.

    corsicanguppy ,

    they wanted Red Hat for a reason.

    They were dying and they needed a cash cow to milk. The only way that was gonna work is if they didn’t kick the cow and spoil that milk like they’ve kicked every cow before it. And they can’t stop, so they’re just kicking away.

    bishopolis ,

    if they didn’t kick the cow and spoil that milk like they’ve kicked every cow before it

    I miss Cringely’s take on this.

    bishopolis ,

    . I would not be surprised if this was just a Red Hat thing.

    It’s a tough one. We blame RedHat for a lot of its half-baked internal fridge art - systemd, network manager; and even, some days, yum in an apt-4-rpm world.

    But this new one is QUITE the departure. It’s not ‘red hat’ stupid but a little further on the spectrum.

    cyclohexane , in Dear Red Hat: Are you dumb?

    Not surprised. A for-profit corporation wanting more money. Especially as we enroach further into late stage capitalism where corporations struggle to find more territory to profiteer from and squeeze more profit out of us.

    The era of free services being profitable is ending rapidly, and we see this across many areas in the world.

    taladar ,

    I wouldn’t say they aren’t profitable, I would say the greed outweighs profitability.

    cyclohexane ,

    You’re right. I should say “profit growth” which is what corporations look for. You can have solid growth, but unless it’s growing, they don’t care.

    Shatur , in Linux on Android
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    I running GNU/Linux on my Phone natively. And I use Waydroid layer to run Android apps. So I kinda doing the opposite 😄

    to_urcite_ty_kokos ,
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    I always wandered what the battery life would be like on these devices

    Shatur ,
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    The battery life is awful. But I bought the official clamshell keyboard for it that replaces the back cover and expands the battery capacity. With this accessory the battery life is good.

    ReCursing , in [YouTube] Redhat goes CLOSED SOURCE? | Chris Titus Tech
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    What??? Is there an article rather than a video?

    BarrierWithAshes ,
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    here's the exact post right from RH themselves

    https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/furthering-evolution-centos-stream

    ReCursing ,
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    Am I missing something? Nothing there says anything about becoming closed source?

    BarrierWithAshes ,
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    Quoted from my other post: Well in order to access the CentOS stream repo you need to have a subscription. So really not closed source but rather "harder-to-view-the-source".

    carlwgeorge ,

    Well in order to access the CentOS stream repo you need to have a subscription.

    That’s false. The sources are right here, open to the world and open for contribution. What was shut down was the automation to export RHEL source RPMs to the legacy location. The source RPM exports were pretty much useless for contributors and maintainers of RHEL and CentOS. However, they were critical for RHEL rebuilds, which is why people are upset.

    Uluganda , in [Question] to Linux from Windows as a daily driver

    For the last two, it will more than enough. Gaming tho, it depends. If you wants emulator, Linux is THE emulator OS. For Windows game tho, if you are planning to play older game, Linux is better than Windows. Period. For newer games, like ‘just-release-game’, it is not ideal. Free to play multiplayer games, especially outside of Steam/Valve, forget it.

    chris ,

    To piggy-back off this, take stock of your current favorite games and do some searching to find out how those have worked out for others. ProtonDB is a great resource for games on Steam. Outside Steam it can often be done, but can be a headache.

    I will typically try a game on Linux first, but keep Windows around and will just boot into that if I cant get up and running pretty quick. Don’t have time to deal with the tinkering all day haha

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