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djsaskdja , in KDE on Debian 12 randomly gets frozen / stuck

It’s not happening when you try to initiate sleep mode, is it? I have a computer that only ever does something like this when I try to use sleep. I’ve basically just stopped using that feature because nothing I tried ever fixed it. Works completely fine otherwise.

awesome_guy OP ,

sleep works fine.

chonglibloodsport , in Looking for a Mac OS9 style desktop environment

Q for all those with suggestions: do any of these attempt to replicate the Spatial Finder? No other system I’ve seen (contemporary to OS 9 or since then) seems to have got this element correct (or even attempted to do so).

It’s such a key part of the OS 9 (and earlier) experience. Double click a folder and it opens where you expect it to, in the shape you left it, with the icons laid out as you left them. It’s a method of working that gives you great familiarity and confidence.

If anyone’s worked in a kitchen or workshop for a long time and developed a deep memory for the layout and the location of every tool, material, and control, then they’ll know what I’m talking about. You can move around and work incredibly efficiently, relying greatly on muscle memory.

Since the demise of OS 9, the only way to retain this level of operation has been to rely heavily on the keyboard. Since almost everything on the screen is transient and unreliably positioned (non-spatial), only the keyboard is persistent enough to allow us to work at the speed of thought and rely on muscle memory. It’s been so long now that I think people forget (or never knew) that the contents of the screen could also be persistent and spatial this way.

LeFantome ,

The Caja file manager from MATE has a spatial mode. I think ROX-filer does as well.

tootnbuns OP ,

That sounds really nice. What if you changed systems? Would the spatialness also change over to the other system? Was there like a hidden file in the folder or somewhere else that defined where everything was?

chonglibloodsport ,

All the spatial persistence stuff was handled by the desktop database which was an invisible file that got stored on the disk. Hard drives and floppies each had their own so that if you shared a floppy with a friend the spatial properties of the floppy would travel with it. This also worked if you moved a hard drive from one system to another for the same reason.

It also worked over AppleShare network file sharing. Where it didn’t work was if you had 2 different computers since there was no way to sync information between them. You essentially treated each computer as its own thing which is really more in keeping with the spirit of spatial design. After all, it would be really weird if 2 different drawers in different rooms in your house somehow always had identical contents which stayed in sync.

bbbhltz , in What are the applications that I can remove from Mint? + Mini Rant.
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I’ve been using Linux for a long time. When I install my fist step is to uninstall. I get not wanting things taking up space.

You should be able to remove things like LibreOffice and so on without any issues.

In the past, dependency chains screwed things up depending on the distro. (Remove Chrome? Oh, well, we’ll remove your DE too! I remember once uninstalling VLC, which I never use, wanted to uninstall the browser and other media apps…)

I did go and look around, and you are right. Lots of posts, older and more recent, telling people not to uninstall and change to a minimal distro.

cmnybo ,

The first thing I do is remove all of the foreign language fonts and documentation. That frees up a lot of space.

gpstarman OP ,

Thanks for the tip. I’ll do that.

gpstarman OP ,

Thanks for understanding man.

boredsquirrel , (edited ) in What are the applications that I can remove from Mint? + Mini Rant.
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Just try it and make a list? sudo apt remove PACKAGE will prompt you to confirm and you see the dependencies before.

Generally, 2 things:

  1. Deviating from upstream gives often undiscovered bugs
  2. Having a minimal core system (and the rest Flatpak for example) greatly improves stability and upgrades

So these 2 are kinda opposite if you are on a “bloated” distro like Mint.

n2burns ,

“uninstall” isn’t an option for apt. You might be thinking of “remove” but in OP’s case “purge” probably makes more sense.

boredsquirrel ,
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Oh oops didnt use Ubuntu since forever.

jjlinux ,
@jjlinux@lemmy.ml avatar

“uninstall”? 🤔

Churbleyimyam ,

“sudo apt yeet”

not3ottersinacoat , in What are the applications that I can remove from Mint? + Mini Rant.

Celluloid, pix, hexchat, hypnotix, rhythmbox, LibreOffice all uninstall just fine without any issues. The only one of those I personally keep is Libreoffice.

gpstarman OP ,

Thank you.

dessalines , in What's the best light desktop env to install in a Linux distro?

Its fairly difficult to find “up-to-date” performance / RAM comparisons of Linux Desktop environments, but here’s a decent one from 2019 comparing memory usage of different Ubuntu flavors.

The most surprising thing is that despite KDE Plasma’s reputation as being more ram-hungry, it actually used less ram than XFCE, meaning its developers have been making performance a focus.

BigMikeInAustin , in What are the applications that I can remove from Mint? + Mini Rant.

Sorry about the rude responses from some people.

gpstarman OP ,

You don’t have to be sorry. Stupid people exists everywhere, even on Linux community.

Thank you for your kind words man.

boredsquirrel , (edited ) in Are there any modern wifi cards that work with Linux and have 100% FOSS drivers (no proprietary binary blobs)?
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j4k3 , in Are there any modern wifi cards that work with Linux and have 100% FOSS drivers (no proprietary binary blobs)?
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Use libre boot website’s info for reference. The Athero cars were the only open source option. They are from the aughties. That is your only option. It is the same for hardware - libre boot stuff with a Core Duo era processor, nothing newer is trusted hardware.

possiblylinux127 , in What are the applications that I can remove from Mint? + Mini Rant.

You can right click and hit uninstall/remove

gpstarman OP ,

Ik how to remove. But what I want to know is what are possible landmines. Just like when installing Steam uninstalled the entire system.

possiblylinux127 ,

Installing steam shouldn’t remove the entire system

gpstarman OP ,

I did for Linus (tech tips). I know it’s not always the case, but I just want to be safe.

jjlinux , in Are there any modern wifi cards that work with Linux and have 100% FOSS drivers (no proprietary binary blobs)?
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For something relatively fast, I suggest you stick to Intel chipsets, and avoid realtek like the plague. As others mentioned, you can go with Atheros, but your speed will certainly suffer, as well as probably breaking the ability to put the computer to sleep with S3.

I understand you would rather go with 100% FOSS, but this carries trade-offs.

NakedGardenGnome , in Has anyone got KDE Plasma 6 - Wayland running on Arch using an NVIDIA GPU?

I do, using endeavourOS, which is basically “arch but with a graphical installer, using some sane defaults”. Not 100% true, but true enough to think of it as such.

If you have no experience installing Linux, either use endeavouros, or go the RFTM way, and use arch. But that last one requires a lot of reading, and grasping quite a lot of Linux concepts, or be willing to learn them.

PS: I do use plain arch on my AMD laptop, but couldn’t be arsed to go through the installation for my Nvidia desktop.

ulkesh ,
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There are other Arch distros with a graphical installer: Garuda (which is my choice of distro) and Manjaro are the main ones I can think of. Doesn’t require the RTFM route, but Arch is definitely not your grandma’s Linux (or maybe it is, I don’t know anyone’s grandma).

NakedGardenGnome ,

While I know of Garuda, I have no experience in using it, hence I cannot recommend it. IIRC it’s also quite gaming-focused? Their default neon look and feel throws me off, I would have to clean it all up for my tastes, which I don´t want to bother with.

I’ve become a lazy arch-based linux distro user…

pelotron ,
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I think there are quite a few non-gamers in their community, but yes a couple of the DE’s they offer lean into the RGB neon style. I like that they actually provide some style (that I like, luckily) out of the box instead of just a regular ass desktop like every other distro.

ulkesh ,
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Yep you’re right, it’s mainly set up for gaming (especially the Dragonized version). And the theme/style is a bit over the top.

I am with you on the laziness which is why I just accepted the default style :) I may, one day, switch to a different theme. I just wish KDE would not reset the apps I have on the application bar when I do.

BmeBenji OP ,

I’ll definitely check out Endeavor. A lot of people are suggesting it. I’m far from ready to install a distro without assistance. I struggle hard enough when I have a GUI to work with already lol

dono , in Has anyone got KDE Plasma 6 - Wayland running on Arch using an NVIDIA GPU?

Since you want an arch based dostro, i can highly recommend EndevourOS. Its comes with an easy to use installer, many desktop env options and a few quality of life tools like a comandline tool (nvidia-inst) to install nvidia drivers. And if you choose KDE Plasma in the installer, it will default to wayland.

AMD is still by far the better gpu choice for linux, but since explicit sync support is now in the 555 nvidia driver and kde plasma 6.1, most problems that nvidia had (i had) with wayland have seemingly just vanished. So no need to imeadiatly buy a new gpu.

BmeBenji OP ,

I’m surprised I didn’t see any reference to EndeavourOS when I was looking for alternatives to SteamOS, but with how many people here have recommended it I’ll be sure to see if I’m able to work with that

TimeSquirrel , in What are the applications that I can remove from Mint? + Mini Rant.
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Why not tackle this from the opposite end, where instead of removing things and potentially breaking stuff, you add what you need instead? Debian is what Mint and Ubuntu are based on, and you can install a very bare bones system from the start.

gpstarman OP ,

I want Mint’s way of updating packages, installing kernels, Adding ppa, changing apt server, etc.

It’s so easy to manage the system. But I just don’t want the extra packages like hypnotix and etc… Although, I can see why all those things were there, It’s just me.

I’m a pro GUI person, so I like Mint.

Hellmo_Luciferrari , in What email client are you guys using?

I was using Thunderbird, but I have had a number of issues with it. Crashing seems to happen whether I use the Flatpak or install from AUR.

I have switched back to using web clients for my mail for the time being.

lcb ,

I am using debias as os , and never had a problem with thunderbird, did you used recently? I am not against web, but i manage 5 emails so no way the web is a option for me. Also i start to use the rss from thunder and is cool.

Hellmo_Luciferrari ,

It was within the past week or 2. I completely understand. Thunderbird is awesome. It is likely an issue with my inbox sizes for the 3+ inboxes I have connected.

sun_is_ra ,

I have never had thunderbird crash. Not questioning what you say but perhaps its sonsthing else? Did u try deleting thubderbird data and starting fresh ?

Hellmo_Luciferrari ,

I will likely go back and try that. I however know just like in other email clients, if I have thousands of emails per account its bound to be slower. I did clean out each box. I plan to use Thunderbird again once I clear out all of those emails and consolidate to one email address.

I will have to investigate which directories to purge.

atzanteol ,

My inbox has upward of 17,000 emails and thunderbird doesn’t have any issues with it. So it should be okay with it.

Hellmo_Luciferrari ,

Guess I will have to play around with it again. I never really investigated the crashes. Just moved away from it as email isn’t as important to my personal life as it is to my work life.

thingsiplay ,

Why do you install Thunderbird from the AUR? It’s available on the official repository in Archlinux repos (and all distros based on). And updates are extremely quick. Can’t say anything about the Flatpak version, because I never used it other than “native” installation. I am using it since over a decade and don’t remember having crashes, maybe once in a while (1 time per year maybe fault of something else). I actually use Thunderbird with 5 accounts from different providers, plus use it as my RSS feed reader, because its stable for me.

I know saying “it works for me” won’t help you, but maybe its an indication that something else is wrong. I would recommend to install it from official repository instead.

Hellmo_Luciferrari , (edited )

I may have misspoke, I use an AUR helper to install many programs and utilities, and am not at my computer to view the actual source. So I took a gamble and guessed AUR. My apologies.

It could have been other instability, as I mentioned in another comment I didn’t really look too deep into it since it wasn’t so important. And by no means am I blaming Thunderbird (regardless of source) for the issues I have had. It truly is a great email client.


Edit: It is from official source, not AUR. I have the same setup on my personal laptop. It came from Extras, and not AUR.

May have to investigate a bit. May have to figure out each directory to purge, do a pacman -Rnsu thunderbird

Then purge directories related, then reinstall.

thingsiplay ,

I see. Well Thunderbird is not the only mail client, there are other good alternatives. Hope you find something that works for you. Who knows what the actual problem is, sometimes one can’t figure it out and has to use an alternative.

Hellmo_Luciferrari ,

I want to investigate it. I know it works well on my laptop, which the big difference in the 2 is that one is an Nvidia GPU and the other an Intel Integrated. So it could be video related. Who knows.

Thank you all the same!

barcaxavi ,

I’m using it on Windows at work and I was also surprised how often it just gets stuck. Deleting the database did help for some time, but then it came back every time I’m sending an email.

possiblylinux127 ,

I wonder if it has to to with the email provider or something? It isn’t fast for me but it gets the job done and is stable and predictable even with thousands of emails

Hellmo_Luciferrari ,

Begrudgingly 2 of the 3 are Google email addresses, and 1 is a Microsoft email address. I will however be ditching both of those providers for something a bit more privacy focused soon and making those addresses burner addresses.

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