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ElderWendigo , in Removed USB-drive still shows in file manager

With all due respect, RTFM. Mount and umount are two sides of the same operational coin. You mount the drive to use it and unmount it when you’re done. fstab is just a file system table used to remember and consistently apply the options used whether you’re mounting the drives manually or telling the system to do it at boot.

Deleting a line from fstab is not the same as unmounting, it is just a shortcut to tell the system how you want that drive mounted when you or the system run the mount command. Mount directories (usually the folders in /media/ or /mnt/ ) also do not get automatically deleted just because you “yanked the drive”. Again, those directories are just where your system is expecting to mount the drive. When the drive is mounted they will be the root path to its contents, when the drive is unmounted they will be empty but they still exist. If your planning on mounting the drive again leave them there. If you’re not planning on mounting them again, delete them.

If you’re not planning on regularly mounting a particular drive, it probably shouldn’t be listed in fstab and you should just run the mount command with the appropriate options (again fstab is just a table for remembering those options for the mount command).

Many desktop Linux distros are also capable of automatically mounting new removable drives in such a way that the user can access them and doesn’t have to worry about touching fstab or the mount directories.

EvilCartyen OP ,

Thanks. I don’t mind reading manuals at all, but is this not a community for asking questions?

far_university1990 ,
EvilCartyen OP ,

cheers!

ElderWendigo ,

For me at least, it’s not that you’re asking questions. I answered, so obviously I’m sympathetic to confusion in this area. I’m just trying to encourage you to seek your answers in the documentation and manuals FIRST. The way your question was worded led me to believe that you had not read the manuals at all and were simply copying snippets of code and commands from some random question and answer style forum that did not teach you anything about the fundamentals of what those commands and code actually did. That’s fine too, lots of people started off that way, myself included. Reading the manuals gives you the context to step back and understand how those commands work and what they’re really doing. If you do, you’ll be much better able to troubleshoot your own problems, you’ll be able to ask better questions in forums like this, and you’ll get better and more useful responses.

EvilCartyen OP ,

Sure, I mean I am used to reading (and writing) manuals and documentation, so I usually go that route first when I know where to look. And your answer was helpful. Anyway, what are some authoritative ressources I should consult concerning these fundamental concepts?

ElderWendigo ,

Start with the man pages. Running the command man followed by a space and then followed by the command you’re using will almost always give you a man page of the basics of how that command works. The fstab has its own man page too. An internet search “man fstab” or whatever command you’re interested in should also net many mirrors of the those man pages as well.

zolax , in KDE on Debian 12 randomly gets frozen / stuck

yeah with what other people have said it’s most likely bad or unseated RAM

awesome_guy OP ,

have just replugged RAM and lets see if system gets frozen again.

zolax ,

that’s good then! i had this same issue (randomly freezing after turning it om for some time) though new RAM ended up fixing it

awesome_guy OP ,

Hmmm. I have also installed linux mint xfce from scratch. So far so good. It stuck only one time since this install. And its been 5 days or so i guess.

robber , in What's the best light desktop env to install in a Linux distro?

Does not answer your question, and someone already mentioned it in a thread, but don’t forget zram when only 4GBs are available.

just_another_person , in Removed USB-drive still shows in file manager

My guess is this is in GNOME? If there isn’t an eject button next to the mount name, that’s just a “favorites” link that got added, and not the actual mount. Right-click to remove it if you don’t need it anymore.

just_another_person , in KDE on Debian 12 randomly gets frozen / stuck

RAM or Video card issue. Are you SURE the entire machine actually locks up, or just the display? Try ssh’ing into the machine when this happens to see if it’s actually staying alive, though the display stops working.

awesome_guy OP ,

yeah, entire machine locks up. Yeah have tried ssh’ing from mobile and it was stuck one time when i did that during a freeze. have replugged RAM let’s see if system freezes again,

just_another_person ,

May just be bad RAM as well on a 12 year old machine. Should be cheapish to replace. Try running a memtest

b0rlax , in What's the best light desktop env to install in a Linux distro?

Xfce

skullgiver , (edited ) in KDE on Debian 12 randomly gets frozen / stuck
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  • awesome_guy OP ,

    yeah, I have just reseated the RAM lets see if it fixed the problem,

    eugenia , in KDE on Debian 12 randomly gets frozen / stuck
    @eugenia@lemmy.ml avatar

    This looks like a hardware issue to me.

    eugenia , in Looking for a Mac OS9 style desktop environment
    @eugenia@lemmy.ml avatar

    The tricky point to your needs is getting the app’s menu bar in the top bar. The rest are easy to do with almost all desktop environments. But getting the menu bar on the top bar, I think currently only KDE supports it (with a plugin), and MATE (with another plugin).

    However, if you want the general feel of how MacOS 9/X feels, then Gnome with extensions would be your best bet. The rest feel more like simpler Windows, but in a mac skin. Gnome+extensions feel more accurately like a Mac, in terms of overall usability (even if the looks aren’t 100% there). So it depends what you’re after more: the feeling of using a mac, or the exact looks of it.

    boredsquirrel , in Where does the computer branding in KDE settings come from?
    @boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net avatar

    Look at kinfo or kinfocenter

    Blizzard ,

    Are just adding a ‘k’ to regular words like they with ‘quantum’ in Ant-Man: Quantumania?

    Strit ,
    @Strit@lemmy.linuxuserspace.show avatar

    kinfocenter is an application in Plasma where you can see all kinds of information about your system. So no, they are not just adding k to random words like quantum in Ant-man. :)

    Tippon ,

    So they didn’t just add a k to infocenter? ;)

    Strit ,
    @Strit@lemmy.linuxuserspace.show avatar

    The poster did not, no. Plasma had a habit, back in the day, of doing that, but not for a while now.

    boredsquirrel ,
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    I mean it is useful. And they dont use “Kelvin” or something

    https://slrpnk.net/pictrs/image/7e54d061-3773-490c-8540-80b09ce395ca.png

    fossphi ,

    Yes, it’s kool

    dan , (edited )
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    KDE was originally called “Kool Desktop Environment” until they renamed it, first to “K Desktop Environment” then to just “KDE”.

    It was the first Linux desktop environment that tried to make all its apps look consistent. Before KDE, Linux UI apps were very inconsistent, each one using whatever UI toolkit it wanted. They likely named all of them with a K to make the naming somewhat consistent too.

    Gtk was released two years later, originally only used in GIMP (Gtk originally stood for for “GIMP ToolKit”) and it took a while for other desktop environments to have a consistent look and feel like KDE did.

    gamermanh , (edited )
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    Gtk originally stood for for “GIMP ToolKit”

    The “GNUs Not Unix Image Manipulation ToolKit” becomes Gtk (fucking autocorrect)

    Naming shit on Linux is so fun

    fossphi ,

    You forgot program. The P in GIMP

    vaionko OP ,

    kinfo doesn’t show it but it does show in kinfocenter. It shows up in dmidecode -t 1 also.

    FrostyPolicy , in Where does the computer branding in KDE settings come from?
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    It can’t be removed. That info comes straight from the hardware itself (UEFI and individual devices).

    MasterNerd ,
    @MasterNerd@lemm.ee avatar

    I mean you could always hack the firmware…

    turbowafflz , in Where does the computer branding in KDE settings come from?

    Did you buy your motherboard used? I wonder if it came out of that system and the builder was somehow able to change the DMI information

    vaionko OP ,

    I did buy it used yes. That’s interesting, I wonder if I can change that or did they order the boards from ASUS with their branding

    NoXPhasma ,
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    This is part of the motherboard and can only be changed with specific tools from the manufacturer. Back in the days there was AMIDEDOS as a dos tool to change it in AMI Bios. You would need to find out, what tool can be used to change it in your UEFI. However, it’s possible that those tools are not available to the public.

    NoXPhasma ,
    @NoXPhasma@lemmy.world avatar

    @vaionko I’ve found this (scroll down to #5 if it won’t scroll automatically). It shows some tools that can be used to change DMI information for different Manufacturers.

    vaionko OP ,

    Hmm I might try one from there, although it requires Windows. I’ll see if it works on Hiren’s boot cd.

    dan ,
    @dan@upvote.au avatar

    For WinPE, I like Sergey Strelec’s build more than Hiren’s: m.majorgeeks.com/…/sergei_strelecs_winpe.html

    SnotFlickerman ,
    @SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    I thought TianoCore EDK 2 was open source? If your UEFI is EDK 2 its code should be wide open and availablem

    Drito , in Which distro do you find the most visually appealing?

    I like simple default, so it is easier to customize. But If I have to keep the default I would say Garuda.

    smeg , in Boot Partitions on Same SSD with 2 Distros

    I asked a similar question last month, there were some really detailed replies in there which you might find helpful

    Combateye OP ,

    Nice, thanks for sharing.

    SteveTech , in Where does the computer branding in KDE settings come from?

    You might be able to flash the retail BIOS to remove the OEM stuff, but often if it’s running a specific OEM BIOS it’ll block you from flashing a retail version.

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