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ReakDuck , (edited ) in Linux will continue to be a frustrating geeks-only club unless and until somebody starts getting paid to work on it

I try to summorize your post.

You used one distro (Ubuntu) and hated it.

Me too bro. It sucks ass, thats why I don’t use it. And Snap is not the default! No one who actually cares about his desktop uses snap. Its not even that compatible with Linux distros, it only supports systemd and probably gets more hardcoded into Ubuntu.

But other distros may be great. Linux Mint seems to be the only one to be paid to work as desktop with Cinnamon, literally, its their made Desktop. The other one would be System76 with Cosmic Desktop.

oo1 ,

yeah and ubuntu is probly one of the ones that has more paid workers.
ok i dont know that ; but canonical sure pays people,

ReakDuck ,

Yeah but it really looks for me like bad practice what they do there. They often hardcode packages.

I switched to Arch Linux because

  1. Its Satisfying to understand a simple and dynamic system.
  2. Its Important to understand how your system works.

At my work I am forced to use Ubuntu and develop a custom distro… its really weird how Ubuntu hardcodes solutions inside packages. I really don’t like it but my employer loves it for some reason. Especially because a lot is hardcoded I assume.

But its definetly more dynamic than some other Systems like MacOS or Windows 10/11

oo1 ,

yeah its nice to have a broad and flexible ability to maintain and improve - as much as possible - your own tools that you depend on.

i think some people like to buy things from people with certificates, who can be sued when it doesnt work.

maybe they are more comfortable arguing about contracts, rather than fix/ maintaining their own tools and get on with some work.

mudeth , (edited ) in Wondering if I should make multiple partitions or keep it as PopOS made it.

Feels like good practice to have /home mounted on a separate partition if you want to install a different distro or reinstall but I’ve never had to test the theory.

atlasraven31 ,

I’ve heard the same but I went with the defaults as a n00b. Ubuntu made me create a /swap and other sub directories.

pinchcramp ,
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Is the screenshot you posted from Ubuntu or Pop!_OS? Because partition 4 is a swap partition.

But I agree with mudeth, having a system partition and a dedicated /home one is a decent setup.

Quazatron ,
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This. For home use having a separate / and /home (and maybe a swap) formated as ext4 is solid and allows you to distro hop with ease. As you get more comfortable with Linux, you’ll learn about the luxury of LVM volumes and more exotic filesystems with compression and other features. What is important is to always keep fresh backups. BorgBackup is your friend, you can find a few graphical front ends for it to simplify things.

nan ,
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Works well for distrohopping too, I usually would rename my home to oldhome or something and then just move my files to the new one to prevent dotfiles from potentially causing issues.

Also beware Debian installer with a luks encrypted drive. Where most things will unlock a previously-encrypted drive and use it, Debian installer will (or would, it’s been a while) reformat the encryption before it confirms any potential partition layout changes and you can end up with an empty drive before you know it.

CAPSLOCKFTW ,

Just add a new user when you install a new distro, then you can have a fresh start. If you want to try your old one, just useradd you old user and try it out.

freeman ,

If you use something like btrfs you can use a single partition and just use sub volumes to achieve similar. Though it’s definately more complex.

moobythegoldensock , in Need Advice on Best OOTB Experience for Gaming/Programming/Media Server Rig

I’m thinking you want Arch btw. You can use archinstall to skip the tedious manual install process.

wiki_me , in Linux will continue to be a frustrating geeks-only club unless and until somebody starts getting paid to work on it

iirc there are companies working on genome, and you could always fund a specific issue using rysolv (unlike in windows and mac os where you pay them money and can only hope they will fix a problem you have)

rizoid , in Need Advice on Best OOTB Experience for Gaming/Programming/Media Server Rig
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I’ve gone back and forth with Garuda and Endeavor. Currently I’m on Endeavor and everything is pretty good, I definitely had a better time gaming with Garuda though.

tla , in Most uncomplicated Printer that just works™?

I know this isn’t what you asked but just have the documents sent to you electronically and cut out the middleman while saving some trees! You can also send them electronically if required. Paper is so 1980’s.

Cinnamon3431 OP ,

Thanks for the tip! I’ll make sure to do this where possible :)

Zaphodquixote , in Thunderbird 115 - odd lack of packaged options beginning to raise eyebrows?
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Eh, I don’t at flatpak or snap unless I have no other choice, but i get why it would be annoying to have the delay.

That being said, I wouldn’t be concerned until almost a month. It’s a big update that’s going to need more debugging than usual. Makes sense to hold back for a bit.

linuxisfun ,

Eh, I don’t at flatpak or snap unless I have no other choice

I thought the same until I discovered that Flatpak gives me the power to restrict apps in their permissions, similar to flatseal, but less cumbersome. Since then I actually prefer Flatpak over traditional packages (I even switched to Fedora Silverblue), as I have a global override that, for example, revokes permission to access the root of my home directory or to use the X11 display server.

This allows me to keep a clean home directory, as applications are prevented from writing into my home directory (configuration files then automatically get stored in the Flatpak directory ~/.var instead) or, even worse, into executable files, such as ~/.bashrc. I can also be confident that applications use Wayland, if they support it, and not a less secure display server (X11). Applications that don’t support Wayland yet can either be made to run under Wayland (Chromium / Electron) or I have to grant those applications permission to actually use an X11 server (Bottles / WINE, Steam).

On the other hand you can also opt into punching as many holes as possible into the sandbox, for example by granting applications the permission to access a local shell. That might be necessary for development tools, such as VSCodium. The thing I like about Flatpak is that it offers this kind of flexibility and you can decide on a per-application basis which system resources the application can or can not access.

Sure, the permission model isn’t perfect (e. g. D-Bus access), but for my use-case it is a huge improvement and it gave me more flexibility with selecting my distribution, as I can get up-to-date applications anywhere via Flatpak.

linuxisfun , (edited )

Eh, I don’t at flatpak or snap unless I have no other choice

I thought the same until I discovered that Flatpak gives me the power to restrict apps in their permissions, similar to firejail, but less cumbersome. Since then I actually prefer Flatpak over traditional packages (I even switched to Fedora Silverblue), as I have a global override that, for example, revokes permission to access the root of my home directory or to use the X11 display server.

This allows me to keep a clean home directory, as applications are prevented from writing into my home directory (configuration files then automatically get stored in the Flatpak directory ~/.var instead) or, even worse, into executable files, such as ~/.bashrc. I can also be confident that applications use Wayland, if they support it, and not a less secure display server (X11). Applications that don’t support Wayland yet can either be made to run under Wayland (Chromium / Electron) or I have to grant those applications permission to actually use an X11 server (Bottles / WINE, Steam).

On the other hand you can also opt into punching as many holes as possible into the sandbox, for example by granting applications the permission to access a local shell. That might be necessary for development tools, such as VSCodium. The thing I like about Flatpak is that it offers this kind of flexibility and you can decide on a per-application basis which system resources the application can or can not access.

Sure, the permission model isn’t perfect (e. g. D-Bus access), but for my use-case it is a huge improvement and it gives me more flexibility with selecting my distribution, as I can get the very same up-to-date applications anywhere via Flatpak.

vatw , in [Mostly resolved] Mounting NAS in linux
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For what it’s worth, NFS in my experience is also faster. I had a very similar use case (but QNAP instead of Sinology) and switched everything over to NFS and saw performance gain. Little things like previewing IP Camera security footage would feel slow on SMB, but snappier on NFS. I’d gotten over the user thing, but the speed is why I switched.

I did eventually wipe QNAP’s software in favor of stock Debian – but the prevailing wisdom seems to say Sinology’s OS is pretty good.

yote_zip ,
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I can also confirm this being my experience. I probably didn’t tune samba correctly or something, but when browsing my NAS via samba it regularly took ~1 second per folder navigation, whereas NFS was instant. I didn’t care enough to figure out why, so NFS is what I use.

TenTypekMatus , in Fedora or Pop!_OS?
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It’s not based on anything mentioned above, but I’d highly recommend NixOS. You just have to copy-paste some things from the nixos.wiki (the unofficial one). You can also view my NixOS config to copy-paste some things.

PhysicsDad , in Red Hat refuses Alma's CVE patches to CentOS Stream; says "no customer demand"

Wasn’t Red Hat just complaining that Alma and Rocky didn’t add value because they weren’t submitting fixes upstream?

cleric_splash OP ,

There goes the narrative. Didn’t last very long, did it?

gomp ,

Its funny how podcasters and commenters seem to have taken Redhat’s spin about “contributing value to the community” seriously, while to the rest of us the whole thing was obviously only about money (same as all the follow-ups from other parties… I would say “including Alma” but that would probably deserve its separate debate).

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  • conciselyverbose ,

    Exactly. "Oracle freeloading" isn't through some loophole they're exploiting. It's the core premise of the license to allow them to do exactly that.

    vampatori ,
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    Red Hat saying that argument in-particular shows they’ve pivoted their philosophy significantly, it’s a seemingly subtle change but is huge - presumably due to the IBM acquisition, but maybe due to the pressures in the market right now.

    It’s the classic argument against FOSS, which Red Hat themselves have argued against for decades and as an organisation proved that you can build a viable business on the back of FOSS whilst also contributing to it, and that there was indirect value in having others use your work. Only time will tell, but the stage is set for Red Hat to cultivate a different relationship with FOSS and move more into proprietary code.

    pazukaza , (edited )

    — “we don’t like people ripping off our work without any added value”

    — “Here, let me push this to your staging environment, totally breaking your quality process”

    — “No”

    — “Well, what the hell do you want broo?”

    I don’t think they have ever hidden the fact this is about money. I don’t like the fact this is about money, but the fact that others were cloning and selling their efforts for a cheaper price is awful.

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  • pazukaza ,
    1. they are not breaking any law. This is totally allowed. You can use FOSS to create a commercial product.
    2. they are major contributors to the Linux space. And they’ll keep contributing.
    3. It’s their effort, they created a business around it, and it cycles back to push Linux forward.
    4. this isn’t even going to affect average users. This is going to take money from companies that probably have the money to pay. For other companies, there are other distributions available.
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  • pazukaza , (edited )

    Well, the re-builders would be breaking the law now that the source code isn’t available for non-paying customers. They weren’t breaking the law before.

    So, do you expect every company to release the source code of their products just because they used a FOSS web framework or a FOSS programming language like Python? Or by the same logic, for companies to release the source code of their products if their developers use Linux in their development machines? Or if they use Linux to deploy their applications in the cloud? That’s such an unreasonable position.

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  • pazukaza , (edited )

    OK, so is Redhat breaking any license? Do you really think a company like Redhat would open itself to thousands of lawsuits like that. The CEO already explained that this is totally legal and covered by GPL. They are in fact distributing the source to the people receiving the product. This is exactly what GPL says. They are not forced to open the source code to people who aren’t getting the distributed software.

    What is your complaint then? They are not breaking any law and they are following the GPL license.

    I was using the webframework/language as examples because you said this wasn’t a matter of law but a matter of principle. So why does the principle apply to Redhat but not the million other products that totally depend on FOSS on their core?

    So many projects do in fact distribute the FOSS, but they use more permissive licenses like MIT, Apache or LGPL. BUT you’re saying the law is not relevant, what matters is the principle. So why don’t everyone release their code if they depend on FOSS on their core products? Because they aren’t breaking the Apache or MIT licenses? Well, that’s great! Redhar isn’t breaking the GPL license either. Why must Redhat follow whatever subjective principles you have?

    — “hey there’s this company creating a commercial product around FOSS. They aren’t breaking any license.”

    — “Nice, as long as the licenses aren’t compromised”

    — “It’s Redhat”

    — “Those mofos! How dare they!”

    LoafyLemon ,

    RedHat is not breaking any licenses, but neither are people who acquire the source code and redistribute it. This is also covered under GPL.

    thebardingreen ,
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    Bro, do you even FOSS?

    TenTypekMatus , in My little brother loves the dualboot setup I installed for him. He says "It's like iOS"
    @TenTypekMatus@lemmy.world avatar

    Just try it with my brother. He plays a LOT of EAC-protected titles and somehow loves Wilndows 11. I tried convincing him to the penguin distros, but he’s very anti-penguin as in anti-Linux. At least I told him how to speed up Windows and he agreed, so I ran a debloat tool from CTT. But at least I convinced my grandma to switch to Linux Mint.

    jman6495 , in My little brother loves the dualboot setup I installed for him. He says "It's like iOS"

    From now on I’m only refering to arch as “the nerd OS”

    minorsecond ,

    What does that make Gentoo?

    PolarisFx ,
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    The nerd OS for irritable people. I could use Arch, but choose to retain what shreds of sanity I have left.

    minorsecond ,

    Haha, that’s perfect

    jman6495 ,

    The OS for masochists?

    DoctorZook , in Sometimes, I get tired of Linux

    Sometimes I get tired of people publishing clickbait videos to hustle ad revenue.

    julianh ,

    Sometimes I get tired.

    KrimsonBun ,
    @KrimsonBun@lemmy.ml avatar

    Sometimes

    LoafyLemon ,

    Some

    Solemn , in Coders, what is your workflow on Linux
    1. Setup my vimrc.
    2. Clone the project, and realize that whatever repo managing system they started using 3 years ago requires setup steps not in the README and breaks everything at the slightest touch.
    3. Build the currently relevant project in whatever build system they started using 3 years ago (CMake is quite nice).
    4. Fix my vimrc to be compliant with whatever tabbing they use.
    5. Realize that for some reason, someone made a commit in the file I’m reading that uses 3 space tabs. And worse, someone approved that PR.
    6. Make changes via vim.
    7. Debug via print because setting up gdb or JTAG on embedded systems is usually more effort than its worth.
    8. Realize it’s a timing issue and reluctantly go find the JTAG debugger.
    Croquette OP ,

    It’s funny how the JTAG debugger should be the first thing that we use, but just like you, I don’t want to use it until really necessary.

    But the moment I setup everything, then I wonder why I’ve waited so long to do the setup haha.

    flashgnash , (edited ) in Need Advice on a Distro for Gaming/Programming and Media Server

    Nobara’s probably the “it just works” one for gaming and you can code on pretty much anything

    If you want to tinker NixOS is the one imo. Has one config file with fairly simple options like to ensure steam is enabled it’s

    <pre style="background-color:#ffffff;">
    <span style="color:#323232;">programs.steam.enable = true;
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">programs.steam.openFirewall = true:
    </span>
    
    <pre style="background-color:#ffffff;">
    <span style="font-style:italic;color:#969896;"># nixos-rebuild switch
    </span>
    

    And it installs and configures everything for you

    Also because every time you are rebuilding your system it saves every iteration so if you totally fuck up your system you can just boot an earlier build and away you go

    As far as I’ve used it pretty much everything on NixOS “just works” as long as you’ve got the right config (which can be searched on search.nixos.org or just googled

    BitSound ,

    I like and use NixOS, but if this is the first time OP is using Linux, I’d recommend sticking with something like Pop. When something goes wrong, there’s a pretty good chance that there will already be a SO post for Pop or Ubuntu on how to fix it.

    flashgnash ,

    True yeah, this is why I suggested nobara first

    azvasKvklenko ,

    For basic stuff is pretty easy, but once you try to go outside of what’s in option, you might find yourself in a deep rabbit hole. Definitely not a beginner distro.

    flashgnash ,

    I’ve yet to find anything particularly difficult to do, 99% of things have options/packages and you can still install stuff with snap/flatpak/appimage if not

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