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Obonga ,

Tilting you windows is a nice option that i rarely use. Most if the time its STOẞLÜFTEN as we germans like to say (opening the windows wide up to really let in all the fresh air).

Huschke ,

Is that not something that Americans do too? As far as I know the need for STOSSLÜFTEN is because we’re building our buildings so air tight, that there is little circulation.

Knightfox ,

Yeah, being able to open the window just slightly from a different angle doesn’t seem like that useful of a feature. Also in the US we mostly have a different style of window (see below).

It’s rare that I want to open a window, but only slightly open it. Normally it’s all the way open and I probably put box fan in the window to pull air through.

You’re correct that many houses these days are built too air tight, but for older houses that were built before AC the house was often designed so that you could open windows on different sides of the house to create a cross breeze. So for example, you could open up windows on the East and West side in the morning and the temperature difference should create a convection breeze through the house.

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TheIllustrativeMan ,

many houses these days are built too air tight,

No such thing. You just have to make sure you use a proper ERV setup.

Knightfox ,

So what if they didn’t use a proper ERV setup?

Obonga ,

It is only useful if you have a bunch of stuff sitting in front of you window and you are able to tilt another window on the other side of the house but its really not that big of a deal.

sic_semper_tyrannis ,

I tried finding a company who sold those windows in my city here in the USA and failed.

TheSanSabaSongbird ,

You need to go through a window company and have them custom-made. They’ll come over to your house and take measurements then build them at their factory and then install them. It will take a few weeks and will be expensive, but for my money it’s worth it.

Where I live Andersen is probably the best as they come with a forever warranty on everything including the glass itself, but they may or may not be in your area. There are plenty of other reputable companies as well. Again, this is not a cheap option.

sic_semper_tyrannis ,

Thank you. I’ll look into that option

TheSanSabaSongbird ,

The cool thing about Andersen is that even if the glass on your window gets accidentally broken for whatever reason, it’s still covered by their forever warranty and they will come and repair it for free. The downside is that they are, again, very expensive.

I personally think it’s worth it and have Andersen windows on my house.

nifty ,
@nifty@lemmy.world avatar

Americans:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/3c469cc9-0790-464f-bdd9-898d3ce838a7.jpeg

baseless_discourse ,

Until a surgery

franklin ,
@franklin@lemmy.world avatar

I used to work for AT&t and it was all to common get someone cancelling while crying because their life is over and their credit is ruined because of the cost of a surgery that could never afford to pay. Sometimes we’d give them a couple months or something but a system like that shouldn’t exist

Lightor ,

Ya’ll ain’t seen the economy lately?

tootnbuns ,

Honestly, I think the verti slide windows make for a better breeze infrastructure than the tilt windows , because the tilt windows can be force shut by sudden strong winds.

And in the summer when I need a strong breeze at night and have to fully open the windows, I have to hold them open with a chair or something because they will slam-shut in the middle of the night.

I complain a lot about silly american building stuff but in the case of breezes, I think the verti slide is superior.

Also, they’re more adjustable. Euro windows can do tilt or open, but the vertical slide windows have a range.

GiddyGap ,

Yeah, it may have a sliding range, but only for half the window. The top part just stays closed all the time. The euro windows can open fully. That, to me, makes all the difference.

tootnbuns ,

That is a good point.

What about a double window, one EU and one US

LemmyIsFantastic ,

You realize we have AC in Merica right?

Like, have you been to half of Europe in the summer?

lauha ,

Never seen a tilting window in Finland

boredtortoise ,

Yeah but our specialty is triple panes. Insulation supremacy

intensely_human ,

Over here in the USA, we “tilt” our windows on a vertical access, minimizing the effort involved to friction. We call it “opening” the window, because ergonomically it’s identical to opening a door.

moon ,

This is not a flex, these are just worse then sliding windows lol. Something like bidets are clear upgrades, but this ain’t it.

psud ,

Agreed. A sliding window can be securely locked partially open. Tilt swing windows aren’t secure enough to leave a window open while away

rottingleaf , (edited )

I live in an area with -30 Celsius sometimes (once or twice in my life, haha, but -20 would work too), with sliding windows there’d be ice inside.

moon ,

How would sliding windows change that

siha ,

There isn’t a space where an icicle can grow, but you can’t reach it. If an icicle is inside a sliding window there is a high chance you can’t reach it. Tilting windows also (mostly) prevent the rain from being blown inside the room.

moon ,

Inside a window? They’re vertical? Also sliding windows are the best at keeping rain out.

phoenixz ,

European Window frames are heavy and sturdy, many times with thick wood or metal. The window is double paned, sometimes tripple Most window frames I’ve seen throughout Canada, USA and Mexico, are mostly flimsy aluminium frames that can warp super easily, most of the time with a single window pane in it

macbayne82 ,

I can’t help but notice Phoenix in your username, you from the south? Because up north, you’d freeze with those kind of windows. Most here are wood or steel framed, and double paned.

Ignisnex ,
@Ignisnex@lemmy.world avatar

I still get frost on the inside of my double paned windows up here in the great white north. No joke, windows are engineered to hell here

anarchy79 ,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

Frost on the inside indicates it’s not properly sealed, as far as I seem to recall. But I’m no window expert (I use arch btw).

Ignisnex ,
@Ignisnex@lemmy.world avatar

Normally I’d agree, but the glass just gets real cold when it’s -40 outside. Condensation freezes on it.

barsoap ,

Aluminium frames are actually the most long-lived, also, in case you didn’t notice aluminium is a metal.

Cheap European windows tend to be plastic, expensive ones wood or aluminium though the latter aren’t generally used in domestic settings. The plastic ones often have wood in them for structural reasons but it’s so ugly noone would ever expose it.

Generally speaking the frames could hold longer if built better, but then you’d pay out of your nose for window panes that don’t fail earlier those inert gases aren’t easy to seal in for decades on end.

TheSanSabaSongbird ,

As someone with nearly 30 years experience in various types of construction, I can say for a fact that this is objectively incorrect. There’s a trope about any kind of social media content that touches on a subject about which one has real expertise, don’t remember exactly how it goes, but anyhow, let’s just say that the ignorance in this thread is absolutely astonishing.

Go down to your local big box hardware store and try to find a single-pane window, for example. You can’t because nobody makes them. If you want a single-pane window you have to buy a sheet of glass and know how to install and glaze it yourself.

Smokeless7048 ,

I love EU windows, and i looked at them when i redid my windows recently… but i just couldn’t justify the increase i price.

Of course, my windows are horizontal sliders

Dotcom ,

I’m not sure why this would be an advantage? Does the tilt cause more draft than opening it a different way?

hOrni ,

Try any different way during a rain and You’ll realize the difference.

Rodeo ,

It’s never warm enough when it’s raining to warrant having the window open though. Maybe if you’re in Arizona or the south of Spain.

CaptainSpaceman ,

Most Europeans dont have AC units, so windows being open is a necessity.

This post misses the entire reason for the difference and instead makes it a divisive topic.

Rodeo ,

I don’t have AC and I manage the temperature in my house just fine with windows alone. My point stands.

hOrni ,

You don’t only open the windows to cool down. You should regularly let in some fresh air.

psud ,

It is a security opening. People cannot climb through a tilted window

There are, of course, tools to defeat those windows since they’re popular.

ExLisper , (edited )

If you want to really confuse Americans show them European showers. Imagine a shower with fixed pressure only…

Edit: I see people are confused. I meant that typical shower in US doesn’t have adjustable pressure:

https://linux.community/pictrs/image/b8ef14a0-7f55-45f4-b2de-a5d68e2aac80.png

SpaceNoodle ,

TIL all Americans have showers with multiple pressure settings

I’ve only been an American for a few decades, still kinda new at it

Zorg ,
@Zorg@lemmings.world avatar

They do? Practically all US showers I’ve come across, have this stupid shower single handle bullshit.Leave the shower on your preferred temperature between showers? Adjust the pressure of the water? Nah, that sounds stupid; why would anyone want that…

FartsWithAnAccent ,
@FartsWithAnAccent@kbin.social avatar

I usually only see those in hotels. Every place I've lived in allowed the adjustment of pressure and temperature. If you live in a place that doesn't, you can also buy shower heads that can adjust the pressure btw.

TheEntity ,

Wait, what?

TCB13 ,
@TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

European here, I’ve had showers with multiple pressure and flow levels since… ever.

TheSanSabaSongbird ,

That’s not true at all. The ignorance in this thread is absolutely astonishing. It’s like you went to the US once, spent a week in Florida and now somehow think you’re an expert in American homebuilding techniques and practices. WTF?

ExLisper ,

It absolutely is true. I have a PHD in early XXI century north American showering practices and I know for a fact that 65% of showers in the North East and 66% of showers in the rest of the US look like this, thus, making it a typical American shower. I will admit that there is a debate within my field of research as to how public and hotel showers should be counted but most experts agree with my position that what should be taken into consideration are the shower units, not the number of uses they get per year.

TheSanSabaSongbird ,

Well played, sir, or madam, as the case may be. Very well played.

brianorca ,

There are plenty of options in the US for adjustable pressure. Mine has pressure on the big lever, and temperature on a smaller level. It even has pressure compensation when somebody flushes a toilet, so there’s no temperature change. But the type you show there does seem to be the default selection for new construction.

notsofunnycomment ,
@notsofunnycomment@mander.xyz avatar

Tilt it baby

fellstone ,
@fellstone@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

My windows can tilt. Not in the same way, but you can either slide them up or tilt them in. And besides, is being able to tilt your windows really that great?

menemen , (edited )
@menemen@lemmy.world avatar

Yes

rottingleaf ,

Sliding windows may not be optimal for a hard continental climate.

For me it allows to not move anything on the sill while venting the room.

Still ,
@Still@programming.dev avatar

I can do the same thing with my double hung windows, just open the too

rottingleaf , (edited )

You’ll get ice on the sides, these can’t be sufficiently hermetic.

EDIT: With some -30 Celsius outside (EDIT:happened only once or twice in my lifetime, 20 would be something more real) and +15 inside, for example, and usual humidity for a living place, where people cook etc.

Still ,
@Still@programming.dev avatar

only time I’ve ever had ice build up on the inside of a window was when the window was end of life and the AC broke and it was -35 F

rottingleaf ,

What was the temperature inside (don’t think anybody remembers or even measures humidity)?

It seems common sense to me that on the sides of a sliding window there’ll be very thin gaps, while with a “normal” window there is pressure between parts at all sides.

But I can’t say I’ve seen many sliding windows in my life.

Still ,
@Still@programming.dev avatar

like 65 F, probably around 35% humidity

there’s a seal around the windows that slides up and down when you open it

rottingleaf ,

OK, maybe I’m wrong. I’m not very good at physics and easily believe what other people say, but since this thing is really uncommon here - I shouldn’t.

Tier1BuildABear ,
@Tier1BuildABear@lemmy.world avatar

Am I the only American with tilting windows? We definitely have them

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