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HeyThisIsntTheYMCA , in im not crying, you're crying
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

So that’s why your eyes are so tasty

AlecSadler , in Incorrect password!

This reminds me of when USAA would let you enter a longer password on the login screen than was actually possible to set, so if you generated a 14 digit password and pasted it into the password reset, it wasn’t immediately evident that it only took 12. But on login, you could enter all 14 characters and then it’d just say it’s wrong. I’m…90% sure they don’t do that anymore.

Also, KeyBank used to (or maybe still is? I closed my account years ago) not support case sensitive passwords. So whether your caps lock was on or not, or you alternated upper/lower however you wanted, your password still worked. I think they were converting to lowercase on the back end.

mtciii ,

There are definitely other sites that still have that problem, though, unfortunately.

reflex , (edited ) in Who are those people who still let Big Tech piss on their face, thinking it is the lord of the rain?
@reflex@kbin.social avatar

Big Tech: Drip, drip, drip.

woshang OP ,

Lmao, bro u good

m0darn , in It just needed a little tweaking.
pineapplelover , (edited ) in Who are those people who still let Big Tech piss on their face, thinking it is the lord of the rain?

“People who think Apple is private”

woshang OP ,
heimchen ,

This must be a meme

woshang OP ,

You should add some words on there

tyrefyre , in Villainous

Somehow I doubt the legitimacy of the headline on the second from the bottom.

macgyveringIt ,

How dare you doubt the depravity of Ohio man. nbc4i.com/…/ohio-man-arrested-after-trying-to-hav…

tyrefyre ,

Lol thanks for the link. I meant the actual words used.

Fizz , in Who are those people who still let Big Tech piss on their face, thinking it is the lord of the rain?
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

Some people just have other priorities. As soon as you start moral grandstanding like this you better check your squeaky clean because I bet there’s something like this that can be said about you.

Ghostalmedia ,
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

Speak for yourself. I have my own chip fab in my basement and I make my own smartphones and PC boards. I get all of the glass and silicon I need from local beach sand.

If you want one of my phones, graphics cards, or mother boards, visit my stall at the farmers market. I also pack my electronics in sustainable mason jars. If you return the jars I will give you a discount on my handmade hemp USB cables.

HootinNHollerin ,
@HootinNHollerin@sh.itjust.works avatar

But is the sand free-range?

Ghostalmedia ,
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

I never cage my sand.

assassin_aragorn ,

Do you take the sand calfs away from their sand mothers?

Ghostalmedia ,
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

I make sure to melt entire families of sand at once.

HardlightCereal ,

Hey, if we don’t let people in glass houses throw stones, then we’ll still end up with too many glass houses.

Ilovethebomb , in Incorrect password!

I’d be wondering if I really need to use that website, personally.

DreamHollow4219 , in Who are those people who still let Big Tech piss on their face, thinking it is the lord of the rain?
@DreamHollow4219@kbin.social avatar

Do you mean those people who will respect and applaud decisions of huge tech corporations no matter what?
No clue. Some people are willing slaves.

WorldlyIntrospection , in I'm trying to prove a point. Without looking it up, what are these?

Easy. The 80s and older crowd will know this from some inherent eldritch knowledge or have no idea. But everyone else will know this from Jimmy Neutron.
scrolling through the comments, seeing Phineas and Ferb everywhere

I’m only in my mid twenties. Y’all need to stop making me feel old.

m0darn ,

I know it from an Archie comic I read in the 90’s

Ganbat ,

I watched Jimmy Neutron, but I guess I never saw (or maybe just never processed) that episode.

ImADifferentBird ,

I know it from Justice League Unlimited.

https://youtu.be/QkEBvqaXXHc

TIEPilot , in Well shit. That should be it folks, I’m here now

They nuke 6 of my accounts the other day all at once then IP banned me. Some of these accounts had only posted one or two posts or were very specialized like Fallou76. No reason other than breaking term and ban evasion…

Spez is human clown shoes…

Deadeyegai , in Villainous
@Deadeyegai@lemmy.world avatar

Floridaman strikes again!

technicalogical ,

Obligatory Ohio

Deadeyegai ,
@Deadeyegai@lemmy.world avatar

Right? I know Floridaman gets a lot of it but the whole “Florida or Ohio” is definitely a thing

TristanFi , in looking forward to the comments

This always attracts pedants whining “the creator said to pronounce it like jif!” and it’s like, OK, A) That’s an appeal to authority, one of the best known logical fallacies B) The creator of Mother’s Day spent over 30 years trying to get people to stop celebrating it, but too bad, I’m still gonna wish my Mom a happy Mother’s Day, you know?

can ,

I won tell you you’re wrong just don’t say I’m wrong for saying with a soft g.

kryptonianCodeMonkey ,

^^^this. Nobody is “wrong”. Say it how you want to. Either way is fine. But get all cocky and tell me I’m wrong for using a soft g and you better be able to defend that assertion, because I’ve heard every argument for why a hard g is the only correct way to say it and they’re all bs.

daellat ,

Appeal to authority is a fallacy if a non-expert in the field is appealed to. However he was the creator, does he not get to name it?

Don’t get me wrong it’s a hard g for me too but it’s not a fallacy tbh.

vrighter ,

it’s not an appeal to authority, if the choice was his, not ours, to begin with. Tons of acronyms have letters that are pronounced differently. It could be arbitrary because an acronym is its own separate word.

Divers don’t dive oonderwater with their scuba gear. And when they take a camera with them, they don’t get the pictures saved as jaypheg files.

The choice can be arbitrary. Since it is, the creator gets to decide. Like whoever discovers a new species of creature gets to name it whatever they like.

dreadedsemi , in looking forward to the comments

The author calls it JIF. He intended it as Jif because he has butter fingers and like butter brand JIF.

I’m used to hard G though.

nothing ,

Yeah, I always read it as “Jif” then came the correctness police of Reddit and I was bullied into “Gif” by guilt.

And now some 8-40 years later, I feel anything but “Gif” is wrong. Help!

Dee ,
@Dee@lemmy.world avatar

Help!

Absolutely not, I don’t say this often but those bullies did the right thing.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA ,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

Do you pronunce it guilt or juilt? Okay bad question

Ryctre ,

I thought it was at least jood.

zefiax ,

How do you pronounce giraffe? or giant? or gin?

norawibb ,
@norawibb@sh.itjust.works avatar

And British people made English, but they don’t say anything right either.

Mr_Dr_Oink ,

Little ironic… but ok.

Butters ,
@Butters@lemmywinks.com avatar

But the food is delicious.

mookulator ,

I know he says it’s pronounced “jif”, but I just don’t care. It’s like “gift” without the t

EmoDuck ,

Let’s be honest here, English does not have that level of consistency. “Women” is pronounced with an “i” for christ sake

tryptaminev ,

Because the a in woman is pronounced the same way the e in women is pronounced…

Probably that was originally introduced by some medieval swinger society, so they could say that they are faithful to their women and technically not be lying about it. When the church figured out they introduced the o as an i thing.

Pyroglyph ,
@Pyroglyph@lemmy.world avatar

Because the a in woman is pronounced the same way the e in women is pronounced…

woman = wum-en
women = wim-in

Yeah I’m gonna have to disagree with you there, chief.

tryptaminev ,

i always eas taught the plural to be pronounced as “wi-men” I also cannot remember any english TV show or so to talk about wimin, so where the second ibis explicit as an i and distinguishable from an e

Raiden11X ,

Say the word “though” in your head. Then add a “t” to it. Would you really argue that “though” and “thought” are pronounced the same simply because they’re the same spelling save for a final “t”?

The easiest “rule” is that the creator can decide how to pronounce and spell it lol. Taking English rules that don’t even apply 100% of the time to its own words and trying to hold made-up words to the same standards just sounds silly to me haha

penguin ,

There are no rules to how new words come into being or how old ones change.

If everyone says a word a certain way with certain meaning, then that’s what it is. One person doesn’t get to decide.

LillyPip ,

Could easily be ‘thof’.

SimplyATable ,

Or like “gin” with an f?

ericisshort ,

Ginf? That’s a new one.

SimplyATable ,

Oh come on, you know what I mean

late_night ,
@late_night@sopuli.xyz avatar

No, you’re supposed to replace the letter, not add it, so “fin”

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

gfn

LillyPip ,

Never. No.

zefiax ,

It’s more like giant or gin or giraffe.

Rodeo ,

No, it’s more like give or get or girl.

zefiax ,

Get is not even gi

penguin ,

He made the format, not English.

tryptaminev ,

Nobody made english, nor is a language static. It is an everchanging result of millions of people using and evolving it.

A language that doesn’t change is dead, like latin is. So any rule of how something is supposed to be in a language is subject to time and place, but never absolute.

penguin ,

That’s my point. If everyone pronounces a word a certain way, THAT is its correct pronunciation. The first person to say a thing doesn’t get to tell everyone else they’re wrong.

Everyone started using the word “literally” to mean figuratively, so the official definition changed to mean either or.

Everyone says GIF similar to gift, then that’s the proper pronunciation. Creator has no say.

zefiax ,

Ya and in English, we pronounce things like giant, giraffe, gin, etc. with a “j” sound.

penguin ,

Find me a closer English word than “Gift” that uses a J sound for the G

zefiax ,

English doesn’t work that way. Man is the closest work to woman. Doesn’t mean you pronounce the “m” “a” “n” in the two words the same way.

thimantha ,

Gin

circuitfarmer ,
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Good thing word coiners don’t get full control over word usage.

zefiax ,

They do though when they are right.

MilitantAtheist ,

I don’t really give a fuck what he intended. If he wanted it to be pronounced JIF he should have named it that.

JohnDClay ,

Copyright concerns?

zefiax ,

So how do you pronounce giraffe or giant or gin?

Lorela ,

How do you pronounce “graphic”?

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

How do you pronounce “underwater?” (It’s the “u” in scuba)

MisterFrog ,
@MisterFrog@lemmy.world avatar

This makes no sense. It stands for “Graphics Interchange Format”, do they pronounce it jraphics too?

Raiden11X ,

There are so many examples in this thread alone as to why this rule doesn’t work.

SCUBA: the U is for “underwater” and the A is for “apparatus”. We don’t pronounce it “SC-uh-B-ahhh”.
JPEG: The P is for “photographic”. We don’t pronounce it “JayFeg”.
LASER: The E is for “emission”. We don’t pronounce it “Lay-See-R”.
RADAR: The second A is for “And” (lol). We don’t pronounce it “Ray-Day-R”.

The easiest “rule” is just the guy who made it up can dictate how they want it spelled and to pronounce. The word is made up anyway, and isn’t subject to rules that actual English words have been subjected to for however long the language evolved.

omega_x3 ,

The guy that came up with with the acronym for unidentified flying object also wrote that it should pronounced you-fo but everyone spells it out because that is less confusing. So there is an example of the creator being ignored.

Perhaps ,

How do you pronounce JPEG? Jay-feg?

MisterFrog ,
@MisterFrog@lemmy.world avatar

Yep, I take your point

Seems an odd choice in gif’s case still, as you can use the starting letter sounds from each word and it doesn’t sound weird.

Not the same for jpeg. P by itself doesn’t make a ph sound.

Tater291 ,

He didn’t intend shit. He just wanted to watch the world burn!

jscummy ,

Can you really just drop a hard G like that though? Thought that was only okay for them to say

QuadratureSurfer ,
@QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world avatar

I’m sorry, but he waited 26 years to tell everyone how it’s pronounced… at this point you can go with the majority, or stick with however you want to pronounce it.

napalminjello , in looking forward to the comments
@napalminjello@kbin.social avatar

We were literally told it was pronounced "jif" by the creator. Sorry if it hurts your little feelings

norawibb ,
@norawibb@sh.itjust.works avatar

Whoever invented all the words in that sentence certainly didn’t pronounce them like you do.

napalminjello ,
@napalminjello@kbin.social avatar

I mean, id pronounce them the way the creators said if they were here and specifically told me how to pronounce it 💁🏻

norawibb ,
@norawibb@sh.itjust.works avatar

ok chaucer, lol. you’d sound weird to everyone else

napalminjello ,
@napalminjello@kbin.social avatar

But I would be correct, and isn't that what's most important in the world?

norawibb ,
@norawibb@sh.itjust.works avatar

No you’d be goofy

danwardvs ,

The British are the creator of the English language but they pronounce nearly every word wrong.

MossyFeathers ,

I’m 99% sure the creator was either being sarcastic, or he decided to be a contrarian for the internet clicks. “GIF” is an acronym that stands for “Graphics Interchange Format”. It makes very little sense to intentionally pronounce it like a peanut butter brand.

Reliant1087 ,

It’s SQL all over again.

Rootiest ,
@Rootiest@lemmy.world avatar

The sequel if you will

Reliant1087 ,

🤣 I remember hearing that for the first time and thinking wtf are they talking about.

HeckGazer ,

Of all the arguments this one always feels like the absolute weakest. There are so many acronyms that are not pronounced like that it’s unreal. Unless you commit to pronouncing it jayfeg for the rest of your life…

britishblaze ,

Yeah not everyone is from the US and had that brand. The soft g has always made sense as much hard g, especially if you say the words Gin or Gym besides it.

napalminjello ,
@napalminjello@kbin.social avatar

Contrarian when he said "choosy developers choose gif" (implying the soft g) in 1987? I think that precedes the internet debate a little

vrighter ,

actually, gif is an acronym. Specifically not an initialism. That means that it is pronounced as a single word (like “scuba”, but unlike “fbi” or “nsa”).

The pronunciation of the acronym does not have to conform to the original pronunciation of the letters.

Examples:

the “p” in jpeg stands for the “ph” sound, but we pronounce it as a hard “p”.

The “u” in scuba stands for “underwater”. We still pronounce it as “scOOba” not “scAAba”

So why is “gif” any different? Its creator chose the soft G for the pronunciation of the acronym (not its expansion), and therefore it is the correct one, simply because there is no rule about how it should be pronounced, so the choice was his. He made it

CrypticFawn ,
@CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I’m also convinced he did that just to be an annoying contrarian back in 2013 when he announced how he pronounces it.

Dude likely never actually cared.

kaffiene ,

So?

Thulcander ,

he dead though

CrypticFawn ,
@CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

He waited til 2013 to come out and say that though, when he made it back in 1987. What he wants doesn’t matter.

The most popular way to pronounce a word wins; Sorry if it hurts your little feelings.

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