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Or switch to linux and you can make it always be an animated, sentient gauntlet

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on the other hand i hate using a word that is not a part of my dialect. it feels so goofy to say, and you guys has always been ungendered in my use

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Your opinions on Italian food are probably wrong and I love drinking piss

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What the fuck… I just commented on another post where I was failing to read a sentence. This was literally the next post I saw.

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lol it was ‘tell’ being used as a noun. its uncommon and i assumed the person just made a typo

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I disagree. It’s a moral issue. What if someone was wrongly convicted? Force them to go against their moral system? I personally couldn’t bear to eat the flesh of an animal. I get this dudes a criminal but like, I don’t think the issue itself is laughable.

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This is a completely different topic but okay.

Since you want specifics, veganism isn’t actually about animals, its about sentient beings. I wouldn’t eat a cow or a dog or a human, because they each have the capacity to suffer and the desire to live. Anything that has this capacity is off the table for vegans. Even bugs, while obviously being less sentient than a cow or human, still demonstrate this in some capacity. So no, I just eat plants and fungi. Technically I could eat a jellyfish or even an oyster (although vegans debate it), since this capacity has not been demonstrated by them. Why would I harm others for my own pleasure/sustenance when there is an alternative, especially an alternative that is cheaper, healthier, and far more sustainable?

Yeast is a fungus by the way.

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Gotcha, i just thought the laughable part meant like ‘we shouldn’t care’. Yeah the prison system sucks

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And? That’s one organizations definition, and the reason they say “all animals” is not because they give jellyfish moral value, but because most nonvegans only respect the rights of humans and a few animals like dogs and cats. So we say “all animals” to generally say we are being morally consistent. Jellyfish and oysters just happen to be edge cases of animals existing without sentience.

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and coined it before the vegan society existed. They aren’t the owners of veganism. Its a philosophy. Don’t ignore the rest of that comment either. Or stop making this stupid point that no vegan actually believes

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Didn’t call you stupid, I called your point stupid. Why couldn’t you consolidate these replies?

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Okay continue making a stupid point instead of listening.

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Perfect, now we can agree the vegan society is just an organization

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Source: I’m a vegan and interact with other vegans…

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well they don’t have fucking brains lol. why would an oyster evolve the capacity to suffer and fear and desire to live when they literally don’t control where they move? it would be a waste of energy. an oyster’s nervous system is about as complex as your finger…

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i didnt say i don’t agree with them. I’m saying your are overanalyzing the definition. this whole argument is opinion, everything is going to be anecdotal…

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i literally did not call you stupid, but now i am. you’re stupid

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this makes this conversation impossible to keep track of. you’re just spamming my inbox

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once again, called your point stupid. you are making shit up

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you are the one acting like a ten year old rn

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i know, im just calling you stupid

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you are misusing a definition. its like using newtonian physics for large scale systems. newton wasnt wrong but his equations aren’t great for talking about galaxies and black holes.

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the only one saying these phrases is you.

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i can do this all day, stupid

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if you saw a human from a tribe who spoke a language you would never understand, how do you know they feel pain and want to live? if you kick a dog, how do you know the dog didn’t enjoy it? maybe people who are asleep dont feel pain or want to live. lets just eat people in comas, or who speak other languages, and lets beat dogs because its so unclear whether they like it or not

Animals must just run from danger because the wind pushes them that way. Wonder why dogs wag their tails when they see humans. Strange. Nah no proof they have desires or fears

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no, you are just the only one stupid enough to think its unprovable

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Do you wish to feel pain, or be murdered? Probably not, so why would you do it to someone else with the capacity to feel pain and desire to live? Empathy is the basis.

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You’re one to talk. No you said “you cant prove” like a million times

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No it’s not the crux. Avoiding danger to protect their lives is pretty good proof.

A man follows a woman and she runs away.

The man: “she could still wanna have sex”

Maybe you’d be better seeing all the animals that mourn deaths of others.

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wow. you already made it clear you dont understand what evidence is for or how things are proven. its no surprise you dont understand science and theories. newton was not wrong. his physics are for a different scope than einstein physics.

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nope. you are just stubborn

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-said the man, still following the woman

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ah the “I’m not touching you” argument

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never said it would, stupid

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no, no i didn’t.

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but you havent spoken to all humans. you haven’t proven they feel pain. pain being a necessity or good is your opinion. If I think, “hmm i like being raped”, does that make it okay to do to others, or should i be smart enough to see that other people dont like it WITHOUT having to literally fucking ask them. What does this argument matter when you are the kind of mf who wouldn’t understand consent. “Uh your honor, they didnt say they werent enjoying it and thus there was no other way to tell they didnt want to have sex”

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weird how your comments got downvoted and mine got upvoted

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gets insulted

“ad hominem”

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i addressed it, you are just a stubborn fuck who has been in bad faith from the start. you have made so many assertions with no basis, then get mad at shit i literally don’t even say

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okay then name the fallacy you just made by using your degree as your entire argument there

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speak for yourself shithead

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not ad hominem. you just dont understand the point, or refuse to engage meaningully

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fallacy fallacy

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wow i can see how you argued like a 12 year old who watched a ben shapiro video and had many logical inconsistencies

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i feel like this is how one can discern whether someone is arguing to reach a conclusion or arguing to try to ‘win’ something. i insulted you, it wasnt an argument dumbass, lol. yet you still blurted out a logical fallacy name

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your degree isnt helping you understand anything

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nice job changing subjects. ah come on guys, im just spittin facts yo

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