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JohnBrownII , in Check the facts

The 13th Amendment did not abolish slavery. It made it a punishment for a crime

atocci ,

Sounds like Jonathan still has a chance to redeem himself then

Atelopus-zeteki ,

I mean, Big J IS a tortoise. I'm pretty sure he's been working on social justice, but you know, it's going kinda slowly.

ivanafterall ,
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Of course he only cares about soshell issues. Typical self-serving reptile politician.

ivanafterall ,
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Why do you assume Jonathan isn’t the reason the 13th amendment doesn’t abolish slavery?

Blackout ,
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Slavery is still the best way to make money if you own slaves. Elon Musk knows this.

merc ,

No, it abolished slavery with an exception carved out for punishment for crime.

The difference is important. Saying it was “made a punishment” suggests that before the amendment that option didn’t exist. It did. The 13th amendment just clarified that that use was allowed to continue.

But, it’s also worth noting that in the late 1700s and early 1800s imprisonment was uncommon, and a lot of crimes just carried the death penalty. In England, pickpocketing more than the modern equivalent of about $40 could result in a death penalty. Same with cutting down trees, or stealing from a rabbit warren. For less serious crimes there were the stocks, whipping, and fines. England had an option that wasn’t available to the US: transportation. Australia was originally a penal colony, and the people sent there were forced to labour until their sentences were up.

Prisons (along with their work programs) were seen as a new, progressive idea that could potentially reform a prisoner, rather than just killing / punishing them.

JusticeForPorygon , in Check the facts
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Johnathan shot President Garfield

theangryseal , in I said 'That's my purse'.

Just watched this one again last night. It is absolutely among the greatest television ever made.

henfredemars , in Check the facts

He did nothing that we know of.

Zachariah ,
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Slow and steady wins the race.

Michal , in Go already

Drivers love their cars so much they will make traffic jams to spend more time in them.

randomsnark , in I said 'That's my purse'.

bobby hill managed to make perfect cell double over in pain, so I’m pretty sure he could annihilate namek-era goku

kamen , in Oops!

My sincerest condolences.

mariusafa , in Oops!

So real

nifty , in Go already
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I feel like HOV lanes are more trouble than they’re worth because they disrupt traffic flow since people need to slow down when the HOV drivers enter/exit

Mwa , in Looks like it was a ... boobie trap
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gay touhou players after finding out there is no boys in touhou /lhj

drunkpostdisaster ,

What are you, my wife? It’s not gay if it’s a trap.

portuga , in Looks like it was a ... boobie trap

“Woman online is actually a woman online”. More after the break

portuga , in Toot toot

I can’t believe you’re writing this either. Advice? Stay clear of the toot toot exhaust pipe? Or you know, get a new boss that doesn’t leak so much

azalty , in Toot toot
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Why remove the credit for the OP?

Brickhead92 , in I said 'That's my purse'.

That boy ain’t right

Johanno , in Looks like it was a ... boobie trap

And where is the problem? I mean obviously being a liar is bad. But what difference does this even make?

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