This is not at all a view that is based in reality, Germany has made it mandatory in their curriculum to learn about the atrocities committed by the Nazis in the war and bring the schools to concentration camps to drive home the depravity of their history.
What a bullshit take. Germany is noted for how they have handled their history, in stark contrast to Japan who do not acknowledge the atrocities they committed and shy away from public knowledge of them.
How many executives and shareholders were convicted for their crimes? Did any profits get dislodged? Seems like people who benefit front these crimes are still holding nice bags of profits and assets.
Also, you glossed over how BMW and other corps would import slaves to work their factories. Do they teach that in German schools or just topics in vogue like camps?
It's taught in schools, and anyway, you're glossing over the fact that the poster above proved your claim wrong (Germans are all uncomfortable with their history), which is just plain false.
This didn’t exist prior to WW2. While there certainly there are many, that didn’t face any punishment or got to keep their benefits, there also have been those that got punished. The allies had to form a new state and rebuilt and most available personnel had worked in the administration or economy of nazi Germany before and was guilty to some degree. There was nobody else and times were changing fast. A new conflict was on the horizon and life had to go on. So they had to work with what they had.
Mistakes were made but this has never been done before. Punishing a whole country and its people is what made the Nazis possible and successful in the first place. I’d not be so sure it would be done any different today. I’d say we’d probably struggle even more and fumble the whole thing even harder.
While I disagree with the person you’re responding to because I find it honestly a little bit disgusting to equate the population of Germany with big German corporations (no, BMW is not “the Germans”), it is true that Germany has historically had a blind spot for capitalist Nazi collaboration (and so has the US, by the way!).
Cory Doctorow wrote a great piece about this topic a few weeks ago. Really recommend reading it if what you’ve always heard is how well Germany does with its history.
I visited several concentration camps in different countries with my school (not mandatory on curriculum; but visiting Auschwitz is something that really brings home the horrors and that’s why the school offers it to older students (together with psychological staff))
I learned about Nazi-History for 2, maybe 3 years in school.
Therefore I can say that in general we are not afraid to learn/teach about the time; to prevent that it happens again (which seemingly didn’t work as a significant parts goes towards the right again… but I digress)
That said: There was never a focus on german companies. Sure, here and there you will find some references and images as a sidenote in a school history book; but nothing that was talked about long enough to got stuck in my brain.
So I wouldn’t deny that some of us are a bit blind in regards to the still-running businesses that were involved with the nazis. And if someone brings it up it’s often just dismissed with sth. alike “Well, at that time you had to cooperate with the nazis or ceise to exist”.
But saying we’re “uncomfortable” about the history is wrong in the way it was said; sure, we (at least those with my opinion) are not proud of what happened and it’s not our favorite topic, but it’s not like we just pretend it never happened
Iirc I’m pretty sure they haven’t apologized for all the horrible shit Unit 731 did to the Chinese and actively go out of their way to pretend stuff like the Rape of Nanking never happened.
I normally would say to look them up, but this one of the rare cases that I would say to do so if you can stomach reading some of the most disgusting shit.
When I was doing history in Year 11 & 12 (junior and senior?) I had this incredibly strict, serious teacher. He was known throughout the school for his intensity, and his lack of tolerance for bullshit. When we covered the Rape of Nanking, he had gone through and sharpied out a paragraph on a handout. He told us that he wouldn’t normally try to shield his students from a part of history, but that this particular part was incredibly distressing.
Let’s just not talk about it was very common practice for like 40 years after the war in Germany, too. But today it’s a totally different story (luckily). Can’t be remembered enough especially when looking at the political directions the western world is heading to right now…
North North North North Virginia should be North North North East North North Virginia, and that propagates through The State Formerly Known As New Hampshire and The State Formerly Known As Maine, too.
North North North North Virginia would be Old Canada.
Edit: I guess technically it would be North North East North North North Virginia; the labeling would track backwards from the current state to Virginia. East North Virginia would be 1 state east of “North Virginia”, for example, which would be The State Formerly Known As Delaware.
I’ve spent way too much time thinking about this already.
They list Ohio as “West North Virginia” when it should either be “North West Virginia” (North of [West Virginia]) or “West North North Virginia” (West of [North North Virginia, AKA, Pennsylvania])
It’s appropriate that they all be slightly wrong, though. Virginia extends slightly west of West Virginia, so West Virginia should really be North Virginia. To use the same naming convention means to carry similar errors.
Blue door would mean having to relive my childhood years being forced to go to church and Christian school, but without the indoctrination that made it feel like it was a good thing. That would be torture.
About 3 months ago I suddenly developed an indefatigable craving for olives. Since then I’ve eaten about a small jar a week. IDK if I’m pregnant (seems unlikely) or if olives are just a normal part of adulthood, similar to how everyone in college eats a lot of toast on occasion.
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