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Cyantraveller , in pugs are a cruel human creation
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Ed Bighead on the bottom Right.🐸

FlyingSquid ,
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“BEV! That wallaby and his WEIRD friends are looking at my MRI again!”

BonesOfTheMoon , in Lemmy.world's servers right now

Hey Lemmy admins, what can the users do to help?

Vexcil ,

I think the idea is to disperse to other instances. If lemmy.world has 70% of users then it makes a bigger target for attack.

If we are dispersed then, even if lemmy.world goes down it would only effect a small portion of your feed.

Either way, the more spread out our net of users is the stronger the fediverse will be. I am going to move instances myself, although my content will still be viewable on lemmy.world. such is the power of the fediverse

ewe ,
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I’ve done this to a degree as well. I used this LASIM tool someone wrote to auto-move all my user settings and subscribed communities. Pretty neat!

github.com/CMahaff/lasim

resurrexia ,
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Hope to see a kbin version one day!

AllonzeeLV , in When you’re sick, you just want to sleep it off

And if its too effective, they won’t be able to leave any bad reviews.

Checkmate.

csolisr , in Good neighborship

And in case they accidentally pull a Fukushima, they can just secede that part of the country and say “it’s YOUR problem now, suckers”

sgtlighttree ,

Plot twist: they create another Bir Tawil

MBM , in Glad to see Lemmy users appreciating diversity

Isn’t blacks (noun) considered dehumanizing?

Metanoia ,

I suppose it depends on context.

stebo02 ,
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what word would you use instead?

MBM ,

Just black, as in “the black version of gonewild”

stebo02 ,
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but thats what it says

troglodytis ,

Read it again.

stebo02 ,
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black gone wild, blacks gone wild, what’s the difference? just a single letter? how is one respectful and the other not?

paddirn ,

“African-Americans Gone Wild” or "People of Color Gone Wild " just don’t seem to have the same ring to it, I guess. I’m pretty sure almost any other term you might use would be frowned upon.

ShrimpsIsBugs ,

Not all black people are African-American or even African or American, you know? I’d be way more irritated if someone called me African-American than black, since one of these is true and the other simply isn’t.

paddirn ,

Yeah, that’s why I added the “People of Color Gone Wild”, since the other isn’t really all-inclusive. Race is so weird to talk about in the US though, it’s like no matter how you talk about it as a white person, you’re stepping on somebody’s toes somewhere. It’s like we can’t even discuss anything without the terminology itself becoming an issue, which just sort of derails any other conversations you might be having. I get why the topic is necessary in some cases, but it feels like it needlessly complicated things at times.

pyff ,
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Ebony, or GoneWildColor as the existing reddit community was already named.

Stinkywinks ,

Pretty sure they prefer black like native Americans prefer Indians. Can we call people white? I’ve never heard anyone wants to be called ebony. I only know the term ebony from porn

pyff , (edited )
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“Pretty sure they”…

Nope, I’ll stop you right there. And the context is porn. Note, again, the term being discussed is not Black, which is perfectly kosher, but referring to Black people as “blacks”, which is considered dehumanizing.

As for alternatives, the existing PoC-run reddit communities are called Ebony, GoneWildColor, GWBlackGirls, etc. Hopefully that gives you some insight.

Stinkywinks ,

Yeah because the majority of blacks use reddit and ebony porn sites. So do you call them ebonies?

pyff ,
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Not exactly sure what you’re asking, but no, collective nouns aren’t generally pluralized in English, nor is the term appropriate outside of a porn context. Are you a native English speaker?

Stinkywinks ,

Why is the term acceptable to porn, do they not use English?

pyff ,
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It’s far more acceptable than “blacks”. It also avoids the issue of associating general search terms for groups of people with sexualized contexts as has unfortunately been done to Asian women and others.

Stinkywinks ,

Pfffffft, sounds like a load of bs. What about Brazilians?

pyff ,
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Brazilian isn’t a race, and Black isn’t a nationality. Incredibly, it’s even possible to be both. I hope your confusion has been cleared up.

Stinkywinks ,

You said Asians. So what about Persians?

Stinkywinks ,

Blacks and whites. Indians and Asians. Look, it’s plural. Add an S, guess it’s dehumanizing? I think the term daddy is dehumanizing. Please, only use dad. Do not add another dy.

pyff ,
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Yes, generally referring to groups of people as pluralized adjectives is considered dehumanizing.

Note that Blacks and the Blacks are both considered offensive and should not be used. Black people is the preferred plural form of Black.

www.archives.gov/research/catalog/…/black-person

[A]im to use Black as an adjective, not a noun. Also, when describing a group, use Black people instead of just “Blacks.”

nabjonline.org/news-media-center/styleguide/

This is for the exact same reason you would not refer to a singular Black person as “a black”. If you still have trouble perceiving the issue, consider how jarring the term “a gay” would seem in print.

Stinkywinks ,

I didn’t say “a black”, context matters no? Everyone thought saying Indian was offensive and came up with native American, until realizing that is more offensive? Just because it’s plural doesn’t make it dehumanizing. Black people says blacks, I don’t hear them say a group of black people.

pyff ,
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Are you under the impression that race and nationality are equivalent? If you’re asking whether the term is considered dehumanizing, that’s been answered for you, and if you’re asking why, that’s been answered as well. In English, racial and ethnic terms are generally used as adjectives, and we don’t use adjectives as nouns when referring to groups of people.

Stinkywinks ,

I think what is dehumanizing is a matter of opinion

pyff ,
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Exactly, and only one fucking opinion matters. That of the people affected. Glad we cleared that up, cheers.

pascal ,

When I lived in Kenya, basically every one called me musungu which is used for westerns but means literally “white face”, I don’t think I felt dehumanised, but that was years ago before Chinese people invaded Kenya.

pyff ,
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Okay

pascal ,

Oh, sorry, my point of view from another part of the world that doesn’t endorse your agenda is too much inconvenient for you?

Pyroglyph ,
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Calling black people “ebony” is like calling white people “porcelain”. It’s romanticising their skin colour. It may make sense for things like porn, but please don’t refer to any group with that sort of name in a normal context. It’s incredibly weird.

pyff ,
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Exactly right, but the context being discussed is porn.

Pyroglyph ,
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Yes, but you’ve also said that referring to people as “black” is dehumanising, and then you were asked what word you’d use instead.
At this moment it isn’t unreasonable to think the context has changed from porn community titles to your personal thoughts on how to refer to a specific ethnic group in any situation.
That’s how I (and I assume many others) read the situation.

pyff ,
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Yes, but you’ve also said that referring to people as “black” is dehumanising

No. Myself, and the commenter who was being responded to, said that referring to Black people as “blacks” is dehumanizing, which it is, and the context being asked for was an alternative term for an NSFW community. Hopefully that clarifies the issue.

DokPsy ,

I believe you’ll find that it’s Ebony and Ivory. … Side by side in perfect harmony

SRo ,

No

pyff ,
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Yes, it is.

benpo , in Sure it's artificial, but is it intelligent?

OK, but what happens to Sammy the snail?

instamat ,

Yeah I want to read the story

Zagorath ,
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Yeah after that summary I’m invested in Sammy’s tale.

ArbitraryValue , in What more need be said about it?

Eh, it wasn’t bad as a revenge fantasy. You might like it if you enjoy thinking about how all the people who don’t appreciate you would be screwed if you just left. The political philosophy being proposed won’t be too offensive if you already lean libertarian.

My main objection to the book (other than the infamous speech, which I admit I couldn’t read all the way through) is that it’s a sort of morality play with with exaggerated good and bad and no shades of gray, but it keeps denying this and insisting that the real world really is that black and white. The reader ought to take it with more than a little pinch of salt.

Oh, and that Ayn Rand’s self-insert has a BDSM fetish I really would have preferred not to know about. (Why do authors keep inserting their kinks into books? I’m looking at you, Robert Jordan. And especially at you, Piers Anthony.)

afraid_of_zombies ,

You might like it if you enjoy thinking about how all the people who don’t appreciate you would be screwed if you just left.

I see you have read my dream journal.

You really can’t win. If you people are dependent on you it means more work if/when you take time off. If people don’t need you, they don’t need you and this world is just that colder.

SCB ,

My main objection i similar to our but broader in scope. None of the main characters feel like real people. They are Platonic Ideals of Ayn Rand’s fantasy lifestyle, full stop

That always annoys the shit out of me when not one well. It can be done well, but it takes a significantly better author.

I think author-kinks are a bit misrepresented (especially with Jordan, who I read more as commentary on power dynamics) but the point is not invalid at all.

Rodeo ,

None of the main characters feel like real people.

Apparently she did that on purpose. From Wikipedia:

She wanted her fiction to present the world “as it could be and should be”, rather than as it was. This approach led her to create highly stylized situations and characters.

mosiacmango ,

I consider that to be a wishful revisionism on her part. The truth is shes just a bad writer.

The charactors in her first book “Anthem” are exactly as wooden and fake as the charactors in “Atlas shrugged.” She never developed any finesse or depth because real people aren’t as shallow as the imaginary people she dreamt about.

FlyingSquid OP ,
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The Fountainhead too. Howard Roark was just a cardboard cutout with a bunch of notes pinned to it.

Kolanaki ,
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Why do authors keep inserting their kinks into books?

Oh… I suggest you don’t read my books when they come out. They’re romance novels entirely focused on my kinks.

FlyingSquid OP ,
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Chuck Tingle? You’re on Lemmy?

Yosituna ,

Ugh, Piers Anthony. I remember absolutely LOVING Piers Anthony’s books as a kid; I went back a while back to reread them as an adult (and read the ones I hadn’t read before) and good god, but I could not do it. Even beyond the terrible puns (not as fun when you’re not like ten years old) and the really regressive ideas of gender roles, after the third book with a young teen girl seducing a virtuous middle-aged man because he was the only one who truly loved her, I was just staring at my old books in horror.

(A few years back someone linked me to his Hi Piers newsletter, which moved to the Internet a while back. I got as far as seeing him talking about the sexual attractiveness of girls at menarche - their first period, which can be as young as 9 - and I had to stop because of the full-body shudders.)

FlyingSquid OP ,
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He used to advertise that ‘Hi Piers’ newsletter on TV commercials. How weird was that?

Yosituna ,

What the heck, really? I just remember him always mentioning it in his author’s notes at the end of his books (and for a while there I think there was also a 1-800-HI-PIERS phone number or something?). I remember as a kid wanting to subscribe to the newsletter, but I’m glad in retrospect I didn’t, yikes.

FlyingSquid OP ,
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Really. It was bizarre to me as a non-fan that an author would go to that length. And yes, the 800-number was featured. I tried to find it on YouTube, but it appears to have gone down the memory hole. I think he only advertised on cable, but it still couldn’t have been cheap. Did that really translate into money for him?

EDIT: Also, it was just him sitting in a chair, talking. No fantasy scenes or even artwork.

Drgon ,

I hate how much I like the idea of the Incarnations series. Dead like me is one of my favorite TV shows (reaper was OK too)

But I cannot go back to all of the rape

thantik , in What more need be said about it?

Personally I love reading novels of worlds that have no basis in reality. I also love authors that repeat themselves over and over because I have memory issues and can’t remember the last sentence I’ve read.

Oh, and I also love reading novels of worlds that have no basis in reality.

SatanicNotMessianic ,

I don’t know. She sucks you in with the atrocious writing and two dimensional characters who are all just stand-ins for an opinionated author, but she really seals the deal with the fetishization of rape culture and how it inexorably ties in with hyper-capitalist American culture. It’s really the whole package.

sorebuttfromsitting ,

I can’t defend any of that, and I’m ashamed to say, that crap worked on me for a bit as a man barely a boy, in the 90s. What helped me was looking at other movements like scientology and Charles Manson.

Just trying to say, don’t throw someone in the trash just because they read trash.

SatanicNotMessianic ,

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs."

afraid_of_zombies ,

Fountainhead worked on me a bit. I still think integrity and innovation are important, but I bet I would have gotten that way even if I hadn’t read it.

I don’t make weapons, I don’t work for Twatter or Faceboot, I do make an effort to keep refining and upgrading designs instead of endlessly recycling the old, I do pull out dead useless code. I don’t win every battle and I don’t even fight every battle. And very generally speaking I do think if you do work you are proud of you will be happier.

At the same time you should not assume you are the smartest person and if everyone is doing X you need to at least consider that they are on to something.

See? You don’t need a 400 page novel. A paragraph works.

FlyingSquid OP ,
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Yes, but your paragraph has less rape, which Rand would consider a minus.

pomodoro_longbreak ,
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I just think it’s fascinating that racists can write. Like, good for them.

tea ,

“This book is a testament to how even the most stupid among us can write a fully fledged book with words, chapters, and everything.” ~@tea

HawlSera ,

I struggle to see how anyone could have written the Turner Diaries and not have either been trolling or gotten some serious “Are we the baddies?” Energy in the process…

PersnickityPenguin ,

I like science fiction too!

blivet , (edited )

Yeah, honestly, I don’t mind reading novels that argue points I disagree with, but the repetitiveness is unbelievable. One of the reasons John Galt’s 60 page speech is so tedious is that all of the points he makes in it had already been made two or three times before by other characters.

HawlSera ,

Does he actually have a speech, that lasts 60 God damn pages?

FlyingSquid OP ,
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Yes. And I really hope whoever shelled out cash to see the Atlas Shrugged 3 movie had to sit through every agonizing second of it on screen.

afraid_of_zombies ,

If it wasn’t it sure as heck felt like 60 pages.

Tb0n3 , in Good neighborship

How many French nuclear plants have melted down?

bernieecclestoned ,
cooljacob204 ,
Tb0n3 ,

It’s possible it’s about the explosion at a 30 years decommissioned plant. That’s the only “France” search result besides a French owned mine.

supercriticalcheese ,

In 1969!

bernieecclestoned ,

And 1980 iirc

LetterboxPancake , in Lemmy.world's servers right now

I see the issue. The ram isn’t oriented correctly. And to overclock they should let the potato sprout.

LouNeko ,

The CPU is also set to Mini, they should turn it to Wambo.

LetterboxPancake ,

Some stickers would probably help as well.

LouNeko ,

Yeah, flames on the side make it go faster.

LetterboxPancake ,

You obviously know how to finely tune a spaceship.

jelloeater85 ,
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Mmm, baked potato 🤤

bh11235 , in Sure it's artificial, but is it intelligent?

An old anecdote from my alma mater – in an introductory course to discrete math, the professor was teaching combinatorics and began: “Suppose you have an urn with three balls inside colored red, green and blue…” At this point one of the students interjected: “Half the class are electrical engineering majors, how is any of this relevant to our studies?” there was a beat and the professor corrected himself: “Suppose you have an urn with three resistors inside colored red, green and blue…”

danieljoeblack ,

Gottem

KpntAutismus , in When you’re sick, you just want to sleep it off

if it works, it works. if you wanna be conscious, you better take some pervitin.

DoubleOwl7777 , in pugs are a cruel human creation
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short nosed dogs signify how messed up humanity is.

Cfrolich , in Sure it's artificial, but is it intelligent?

Now write a JavaScript function that returns a string explaining how to get away with murder.

db2 ,

<span style="color:#323232;">function murder() {     
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    return "Be a politician.";    
</span><span style="color:#323232;">}
</span>
3laws ,

function paidvacations() {
return “Be a cop.”;
}

supercriticalcheese ,

Function paidvacation()?

Why would someone take unpaidvacations ? Is that a cop privilege in the US?

instamat ,

function paidvacations() {
return “Be ✨rich✨.”;
}

jerome , in When you’re sick, you just want to sleep it off
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skillfully combined …by measuring cups. lol

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