I don't see how getting rid of ad blocking would help Google. The people that know tech enough to always install Adblock first thing when installing a browser will just jump to the next browser.
And the people that don't know tech enough to do that wouldn't have used Adblock either way.
They're losing out on a much larger userbase (People that know tech) in the hopes of keeping the subset of that userbase that knows their way around tech but doesn't care if adblock is installed or not and making them 'pay' by watching ads.
That would at least be my opinion if that's what's actually happening, because I personally didn't gaf about these news until now and I only read the text from the meme. And quite honestly, I'll continue not giving af in the future.
My question is will Google/YouTube be able to block all ad blockers no matter what browser is used? Or will using an alternative browser circumvent it all as everyone seems to be saying it will?
I haven't migrated away from Chrome yet, but will do so if that is the easy of a solution.
It's a question that only time will probably tell. But I'm 100% sure that, as long as alternative browsers exist that allow adblockers, they'll find a way to block ads on e.g. Youtube.
Unless they start injecting the ads into the video directly (kind of like some apps do that display ads even when your device is offline), even then though, Sponsorblock theoretically exists.
In its current form, it would only work if each video had the ads injected at the same timestamp and with the same duration everytime, which I find unlikely.
It would have to implement some dynamic behavior. It is however in at least some countries required to visibly and clearly mark ads, so a check for that marking could possibly be implemented. But that's more of a thing I'd expect uBO to do instead of Sponsorblock.
Going by recent internet history, every anti-adblock measure will have its according anti-anti-adblock measure within at most a few weeks by now. That's the beauty of community-driven open source projects.
The manifest v3 situation does mean other browsers will continue to be able to block ads on YouTube; however, the new drm that Google is proposing for websites would effectively allow YouTube to block any browser they didn’t like from viewing the site at all.
And in comes Google’s ‘DRM for websites’ plan to force you to use a chrome based browser. Sure, the websites still would need to opt in to integrity API, but how many will turn down guaranteed ads and tracking.
Yeah if Google can get big websites like Facebook or Xwitter to use their DRM, then the average user will be forced to use Chrome for those sites, and it will be an advertiser free-for-all.
Strict tracking protection makes Firefox on Android a ton faster, especially on any website owned by Google or any link that has a Google wrapper (e.g. clicking a link on the Gmail app)
According to this GitHub discussion PrivacyBadger is pretty much redundant if you use uBlock Origin, can even hinder performance and cause opposite effect than expected.
To add to this, I have uBO installed on FF Android, but Strict Protection still makes things much faster for me. I’m not sure if it’s because of my other Addons, but FF Android is so slow otherwise with certain sites (mostly just Google’s)
Strict protection on iOS was literally the difference between “I can use this phone” and “brick”. I had an old iPhone, 6 Plus, and Safari lagged to death because it tried to load ads. Firefox didn’t.
Because Google is trying to add internet-wide drm which would make ad-blocking difficult, if not impossible, and they have a large enough marketshare to potentially force it.
Tbh I don’t think that’s totally outside the realm of possibility as it takes control out of Apple’s hands. However, I’m not sure if Apple’s userbase is really large enough to stop Google.
Supposedly Safari makes up about 20% of global browser usage (chrome is at 63%, Firefox is about 2.8%) which could be large enough to stop Google, but that’s also assuming that Apple won’t cave to users and/or corporations complaining about how their site doesn’t work on Safari. Apple might even create their own alternative system that lets them maintain control while still providing drm.
As a user of Linux and primarily FOSS software for 2 years, each time I recommended something FOSS, others had bad luck.
I tried switching someone to Linux but I couldn’t achive %100 funnctionality on a Windows only app I set up via Wine. (it is an obscure program, not sth like Adobe or MS Office)
I recommended Kdenlive to a Mac user friend, he couldn’t export a video he spent 30 hours on it.
I convinced someone to use Libreoffice but they lost data in only 30 mins because I forgot to tell that if you draw more than a few strokes in LO Draw it enters a save loop. This is fixed now thankfully.
I recommended VLC for DVD ripping, it entered some sort of loop and failed to export.
Each of the above examples involve completely different people, by the way.
I set up 2 fresh Windows installs for family but installed Firefox with strict protection and uBlock Origin instead of Chrome and… it worked?! They still use Firefox. Maybe the alpenglow theme is too good, I don’t know.
You’re right and it’s that sort of stuff that people like you and me will deal with and figure out and move on but unfortunately it’s not the case with regular people. That’s why I never recommend that sorry if stuff to ‘normies’ ie. My mom. Instead I set them up with the lesser of evils that will give them convenience and make them more likely to trust me in the future. That way, if I ever REALLY need them to move on from something they will be more likely to just listen to me and not fight me about it. I just got a couple of friends to switch over to Firefox even though they were chrome fans, all because I have years of goodwill. Ported their bookmarks and got them ublock and they barely even notice a difference.
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So I switched to Firefox for privacy reasons but fuck if it isn’t buggy as hell on my old phone. I’m keeping it, but it’s a huge reduction in usability compared to Chrome.
I use Firefox exclusively on both android and my PC. And have no idea what you’re talking about. Are you also on android? What’s been buggy in your experience?
Not the person you’re replying to but I sometimes have issues with PWAs not loading when I open them and then I have to close it and re-open to get it to load
That’s the only major issue I have and I find the ability to use ad blockers as well as the nice reading mode to make my overall mobile browsing experience leagues better than with Chrome
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