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stanleytweedle ,

Quick- somebody call the History Channel!

arin ,

They already covered it

catsarebadpeople ,

Believe it or not… Aliens

CaptPretentious ,

I mean yeah. They’re landing pads for ships!

But I really blow your mind when you find out what’s in Cheyenne mountain…

tfw_no_toiletpaper ,

“The great flood” 😂

The one which submerged the whole earth for what, 40 days? Wonder where the water went

genuineparts ,
@genuineparts@infosec.pub avatar

Down the drain into the hollow earth, duh!

Rhynoplaz ,

Hollow?!? That can’t even be possible!

How can a flat disk on a turtle’s back be hollow?

shuzuko ,

No no, the turtle shell is hollow, duh. The hole in the disc just empties into the turtle shell to keep the poor thing hydrated, it’s like a camel-turtle basically.

Rhynoplaz ,

Every time I think you people can’t get any dumber, you go and say something like this, and TOTALLY REDEEM YOURSELVES!

Swedneck ,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

as it says in the bible, god drank it all

boatsnhos931 ,

In my swimming pool

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Let’s say for the sake of argument for a second that it happened… can you imagine the stench from the trillions of rotting human and animal corpses when it all went away? Noah and clan would have to live with that for months.

L3mmyW1nks ,

So that’s why he became a drunk that got angry at his kids when they tried to cover him up while he was blacked-out and naked in his hut?

AngryCommieKender , (edited )

The Earth’s entire human population was only in the tens to hundreds of millions of people when the Younger Dryas Period happened… Where did the trillions come from? Also I would imagine the bodies got swept into the ocean, and were eaten by lobsters and other carrion feeders.

Edit: I see trillions including animals and plants.

ChaoticNeutralCzech , (edited )

Not the whole world. According to the post, water only rose by about 60 m (to the base of the Great Pyramid of Giza + some 100 m (¾ of its height) compared to current sea level. This would flood most homes back then but less than 25% of land area, so the majority of displaced people would just survive as nomads in the highlands.

MonkderDritte , (edited )

Supposedly the black sea area after the messinian flood (mediterranean was dry in the salinity crysis), where humanity was at the time. Though there’s no proof.

invisiblegorilla ,

Someone pulled the great plug

AngryCommieKender ,

Almost every culture worldwide has great flood myths. It’s probably because of the Younger Dryas Period. Glaciers melted, and dumped amounts of water that were larger than The Great Lakes in volume. You can see the evidence of it, if you aren’t speculating wildly.

Apparently it happened multiple times. Just not the entire world at once, but certainly from the ancient people’s perspective it seemed like it.

pixxelkick ,

In terms of the erosion, doesn’t wind erosion on raised surfaces behave very similar to how water erosion on shores behaves?

Since both are just fluids brushing up against surfaces, and the fact in the desert the wind will have a lot of silica dust in it, it stands to reason the wind currents around the pyramid would have very similar erosion patterns to water on a shore.

Fluids are fluids, air doesn’t behave to dissimilar from the ocean, and wind is not to dissimilar from water currents in terms of the physics.

Silica dust will kick up off the nearby dunes, carry in the wind, but due to its weight it’ll be less likely to erode higher elevations. So the tip top of the pyramid is high enough up sand in the wind won’t reach it as easily so it erodes way slower.

Much akin to how waves crash on a coastline, water has weight so the higher an elevation is, the less and less sea spray it gets hit by, so it erodes slower.

meco03211 ,

With no background in the subject my assumption is that it would be more punctuated or abrupt for water. However I don’t think it would be two lines for the troughs vs crests. I’d assume it would just be general water height. The reason is that water would obviously erode much quicker than air. Add on that the water level is much more definite than air and how high dust would get within the air to increase erosion.

Again, no background expertise. Just what I’d guess in the given subject in general.

Lemmeenym ,

I’m going to throw a little bit of a curveball at ya. Most of the damage to the pyramids in Giza isn’t from erosion. They were originally covered in white limestone and the tops were capped in hammered gold. An earthquake sometime in the early 1300s began dislodging the limestone and from about 1600 to about 1800 a quarry was established in Giza and the gold and limestone were removed.

jaybone ,

I thought the Roman’s started taking the gold like 2000 years ago?

VindictiveJudge ,
@VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world avatar

Silica dust will kick up off the nearby dunes, carry in the wind, but due to its weight it’ll be less likely to erode higher elevations. So the tip top of the pyramid is high enough up sand in the wind won’t reach it as easily so it erodes way slower.

That, and the pyramids were stripped for building materials later on. Lower levels were easier to access, so people didn’t generally bother going all the way to the top, except for the ones with gold covered peaks.

SkyezOpen ,

Not to mention, according to the Bible the world was only flooded for a few months. I’m not an expert on erosion, but this guy definitely is dumber than me.

pixxelkick ,

Also even going with the flood theory, pretty sure Egypt comes after Noah even in the Bible itself >_>;

The world did flood when humans were around (most cultures have great flood stories from ancient times), but that was way way before Egypt.

Amusingly iirc the Nile nearby however is a great example of proof the earth once was covered in ice the melted and flood, as I believe it’s a giant striation or whatever the term is, huge gouge left behind by receding ice, no?

That’s why it’s so big and runs so far, it’s ancient from countless years of erosion and meandering after being carved out during the ice age.

AlotOfReading ,

Genesis is pretty clear that Egypt came after the flood. Noah had sons with him. One of them, Ham fathered Africans. Noah’s grandson Mizraim was the father of all Egyptians.

Some early Christians reconciled that with the obvious age of the pyramids by guessing that the pyramids predated the flood and modern Egyptians were simply a new population, but no one’s seriously argued that in literal millennia.

glimse ,

Ethical Skeptic

Thinks The Bible was real

kn0wmad1c ,
@kn0wmad1c@programming.dev avatar

I’m not anything that can be remotely considered religious, but flood myths are fairly common in ancient folklore, so if anything from the Bible might have been true, then there might have been a great flood at some point.

Seleni ,

There was. The Tigris and Euphrates flooded several times. Noah’s Ark is a retelling of an older Sumerian myth.

Maggoty ,

Isn’t there also evidence the red sea was a below sea level valley at one point? Until the ocean eroded the barrier?

Asidonhopo ,

I’d heard this about the Black and Mediterranean Seas but not the Red. Maybe?

kromem ,

Noah’s ark was probably originally a famine narrative.

After the Babylonian captivity we see the Babylonian flood mythos in the extant version of the story.

Sometimes similarities between world religions can be explained by common physical features, like stories of resurrection associated with snakes (who shed skin) or with the planet Venus (which dips below the horizon for several days before reemergence).

But sometimes it’s because people are just plagiarizing.

Swedneck ,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

there definitely wasn’t some earth-covering flood, since that would take a stupendous amount of water that later just vanished.

What is likely however is raised sea levels, drowning low-lying areas like the dogger bank. It’s pretty insane how much more land we used to have, doggerland is/was about the size of the netherlands and since it would have been extremely fertile it’s likely it was a very important area for people in the past, so frankly it could very well be the source for the atlantis myth even.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

There are lots of flood myths because humans generally settle near large bodies of water. Large bodies of water tend to flood, sometimes catastrophically.

The Atlantis “myth” was made up by Plato to make a point about what would happen to Athens if they got too big for their britches.

Semi_Hemi_Demigod ,
@Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world avatar

Civilizations that arose around rivers that flooded annually had gods that were largely unconcerned with human matters.

Civilizations that arose around rivers that flooded randomly had angry gods who wanted to punish people.

VindictiveJudge ,
@VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world avatar

Atlantis was a hypothetical society thought up for an argument that everyone immediately took way too seriously.

protist ,

Democratic People’s Republic of Korea naming convention

DPRK_Official ,
@DPRK_Official@lemmy.world avatar

Quiet, fool. Let it be known that no country is more democratic than the DPRK.

It’s merely a coincidence our Dear Leader received 100% of the votes.

Honytawk ,

If the tips of those pyramids were above water during Noah’s flood, wouldn’t that mean there was still a ton of land left?

venoft ,
@venoft@lemmy.world avatar

There are higher hills in Egypt, let alone mountain ranges.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Not only are there higher hills, the Pyramid of Djedefre, which is now mostly gone, was put on a plateau overlooking the Giza pyramids specifically so Djedfre, who was the sun of Khufu, who built the great pyramid, could say that his was higher than his father’s.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExaWp0bHNxY3llemszd2VvN3Z6djZpYm9lZW1iZDJ2ZzUzZHFucDg0ciZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/Nof8ZnH1ySTnEhYUS8/giphy.gif

kromem ,

Yeah, but they didn’t build oars or sails, so they were kind of stuck.

Also, everyone else and the other animals didn’t know about gravity, so they didn’t realize they could have just walked uphill to not drown.

It’s the contextual details that matter.

Crack0n7uesday ,

Noah was before Moses so I don’t the pyramids were built before the flood.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

The Bible doesn’t actually say that the Israelites built the pyramids, but the entire Egyptian pharaonic line would have post-dated Noah, so it still doesn’t make chronological sense within the Biblical narrative.

kromem ,

I sometimes wonder if the other wonders were still around if we’d have wild haired guys on the History channel asking rhetorical questions about who could have possibly built the gardens of Babylon.

AngryCommieKender ,

I saw a video recently that claims that archeologists can’t find the ruins, and are starting to believe that the gardens were a myth.

YurkshireLad ,

If it was water, wouldn’t everything be smooth?

clay_pidgin ,

Like sharks?

Stalinwolf ,
@Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca avatar

Are you okay, colleague? You’ve barely touched your cab ride…

lemmy_get_my_coat ,

I’m amazed that they draw the Earth as a globe

ChaoticNeutralCzech ,

But still think its “geographic center” is on the surface, in Turkey of all places. Perhaps because it’s near the threshold of the 3 old continents, which is where the Mediterranean (“Mid-Earth-ean”) Sea got its name from?

ChaoticNeutralCzech , (edited )

But still think its “geographic center” is on the surface, in Turkey of all places. Perhaps because it’s near the threshold of the 3 “old” continents, which is where the Mediterranean (“Mid-Earth-ean”) Sea got its name from?

Well, I think we’re not advanced enough to understand. We still use this primitive old technology called “cryptographic keys”, whereas the calculation provided documents a yet-unknown authentication technique for the future of man. Whoever is entombed in the Pyramids sure is authenticated af, which comes in handy because of the KYC laws Charon needs to follow.

harrys_balzac ,

Or…or…now hear me out…just maybe… possibly…the outer stones were looted and used to build structures in the area?

saltesc ,

Romans 8:28 lol

looks at a picture on the internet

“Well, that’s that. The pyramids pre-date us. Something’s going on.”

Yeah, Big Archaeology! Tell us what you’re hiding!

kromem ,

So Romans 8 isn’t in the earliest recorded version of it (Marcion’s copy).

There’s a pretty good chance this armchair detective of world mysteries has a username citing a forged chapter of a text.

The Internet is not lacking in irony.

blueamigafan ,

I used to work with someone who believed the pyramids are fake, also I have seen a photo of the same person visiting the pyramids on holiday when they were younger. There was no changing their minds either, so weird.

TropicalDingdong ,

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/e7e7ce74-1969-4646-aab8-735cbfccb5cd.png

edit: if you’ve never seen it…

gregorum ,

We actually went over this whole thing when I was in design school. Later, I interviewed with a company that had some e who used to be on the Pepsi marketing team in the room that was responsible for green-lighting this.

It was an interesting conversation.

TropicalDingdong ,

So this thing isn’t parody?

gregorum ,

Nope. When Pepsi redesigned its logo in 2015 or whatever, the designer put together this huge style guide book that was full of this crap about the logo. It was ridiculous.

Pages and pages of it

TropicalDingdong ,

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/e97e8061-f14f-4c11-b925-61242f4fdc49.gif

sawdustprophet ,
@sawdustprophet@midwest.social avatar

Behold, the glory of the Pepsi universe.

LesserAbe ,

I like it. I like that different variations of the Pepsi logo are derived by imagining Pepsi planet, imagining rotating it and taking a 2d snapshot.

rothaine ,

52 + 52 = 104

Sure, sure. But what if I told you…

52 + 53 = 105

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