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dog_ ,

It’s an Adult Easy Bake Oven

ItsAFake ,

Mine does both and rotisserie chicken. https://lemmus.org/pictrs/image/137ebffc-0589-4fa1-be66-2eb8e6fa72bb.webp

figaro ,

Air fryers have changed the game. My life is different now. I’m a changed man. I fry my food with the air. I will never go back.

olafurp ,

It’s small and powerful convection oven. I’d still prefer a microwave + oven

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Why not a microwave + oven + air fryer?

An air fryer is fantastic for things you’d normally cook in an oven, but it gets them way more crispy without all the oil. You can even “deep fry” by spritzing some oil on top.

If your oven has a convection feature, you can just use that, but it’s also way bigger (read: more energy to cook small portions).

Krauerking ,

Ok I hear you and offer the far superior, microwave + convection toaster oven (air fryer toaster oven ok just don’t get a bad one)

Toaster oven beats the issue of huge amount of wasted energy and heat and convection is basically 80% of the way to air fryer and also will make general baking faster and more even. So you can use them in place of the oven for lots of things.

Cheap air fryer toaster ovens are often crap though and more just garbage air fryer that opens differently. Don’t buy those.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Any idea if Cuisinart and Ninja air fryers are decent? I’m looking to upgrade to a larger one, and they have ones that look like toasters (Cuisinart and Ninja), but they’re advertised as air fryers.

I don’t really need a toaster since I just toast with my oven (has a “Toast” setting that uses the broiler), and even then that’s pretty rare.

Krauerking , (edited )

Cuisinart are perfectly awesome toaster ovens and even nice convection but their air frying is mostly just ok. I think their budget options are their best stuff since will work just as well and is as reliable as Cuisinart gets.

Ninja has some kind of secret sauce cause their air frying capabilities in their toaster ovens puts single purpose air fryers to shame. Shockingly good but I am always concerned about longevity since they always seem seconds away from throwing the baby out with the bathwater if they think they have a new device to sell. But these toaster ovens do seem to last. And it’s hard to make them proprietary like other products.

Tl;Dr: if you mostly just care about having a larger more capable air fryer ninja is your answer and they work great. If you want max size the Foodi XL is good and can be got on sale for around the same price as the smaller flip up one but is far more usable as an oven and more.

Edit: I own the new Ninja double oven air toaster oven and love it but I also bought it from a store that sells dented or returned items for half price and it’s my 4th air fryer toaster oven I have ever owned.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Awesome, thanks for the info kind stranger!

TheLightItBurns ,

I have the Cuisinart model basically right under the tier of the one linked. It doesn’t have a digital display, but it has knobs for controls and timers.

I absolutely love my machine and I’ve had it for about 4-5 years now. It toasts, bakes, and air fries. It does all of those things pretty well. When used to bake, it is so much more efficient than my oven, it is wild. Baking times are lower and the heat up prep time is easily less than half as long if not shorter than the oven, I assume due to the size of the machines.

I would focus on getting an air fryer than can toast and bake as well if you do get one. It fully replaced my toaster, and when reheating food or cooking small batches, I just do not use my oven anymore. Even toasting in it is quick due to the size of the cooking area and location of the pan locations close to the heating elements. It bakes a “take home and bake” style bagel wonderfully, which is now what I’m going to do for breakfast.

AnUnusualRelic , (edited )
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve never really found much use for a microwave, but I do too much pastry to be without an oven. And my cakes wouldn’t fit in an air fryer.

riodoro1 ,

„It makes way better fries then the regular oven” Well, have you also shaken the oven fries every 15 seconds?

Cqrd ,

I don’t shake air fryer fries at all and they’re still better, but I live in the US where convection ovens are very uncommon in households. That’s why air fryers are so popular here.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

I have one and the air fryer is still way better.

shirro ,

It is a small fan forced oven. Good for heating up frozen snacks but usually too small to cope with large families and probably not worth bothering if you have a good oven. Since I have a completely shit oven that cooks unevenly, never the right temp, takes ages to heat and heats the whole house up in summer just to make some chicken nuggets for the kids I think they are awesome. If I actually gave a shit about cooking I probably wouldn’t bother. If was single I would probably still rate the toaster oven as the most versatile benchtop appliance (though the biggest fire risk) followed by sandwich press but if you have to heat up manufactured rendered chicken waste shaped like dinosaurs for kids they are surprisingly practical.

merc ,

Good for heating up frozen snacks but usually too small to cope with large families

What would you recommend for cooking your whole large family?

androogee ,

A family barbeque

hobbes_ , (edited )

It is a bit more complicated than that. The WAY it moves the air is different than in a convection oven, so it “fries” a bit better.

This guy does a great breakdown of how it isn’t “just a convection oven”

youtu.be/yw--NLjZBNk

ElderWendigo ,

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    hobbes_ ,

    He literally cut one in half and showed how the air flowed and explained why it was different and more akin to deep frying. Maybe watch a video next time before critiquing it.

    Tldr, no. To everything you just said.

    ElderWendigo ,

    That was like 10 frames and he didn’t explain shit.

    Your a liar and a troll. Fuck off and stop harassing me.

    noli ,

    https://programming.dev/pictrs/image/1d29fcf7-a033-4839-988f-76347d815e79.jpeg

    hobbes_ ,

    This made my day ty

    yimby ,

    Just a heads up, the ?si=… part of the youtube url is a tracker linked to you and your youtube history. Youtube will recommend people who click your link other things you watch. The ? and everything afterward can be safely removed and the link will still work.

    sugar_in_your_tea ,

    Same is true for Amazon and other POS websites. Always try slimming your links before sharing with others.

    hobbes_ ,

    Thanks!

    wizzor ,

    Thanks for sharing this, interesting recipe too, I will try it. The cross section of the air fryer was cool.

    Bristle1744 ,

    If only there wasn’t a repository of human knowledge that could have cleared everything up before this meme was made:

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convection_oven#Air_fryer

    And BTW, it’s closer to an impingement oven

    Traegert ,

    Do you expect someone who posts on 4chan to know impingement? Shit I don’t even know what that means

    summerof69 ,

    Google Translate tells me it’s “collision” in my language. So we’re talking about CERN-level of tech here, a highly advanced cooking process.

    androogee ,

    I knew dino nuggies were the God Particle

    Agent641 ,

    Impinj makes RFID tags

    Krauerking , (edited )

    You mean the Wikipedia article that is literally about convection ovens and has a subheader for air fryers and literally a line where people agree that some convection ovens are better at producing crispier food than air fryers? That smoking barrel of an article?

    Man it almost looks like the OOP wrote both.

    KillingTimeItself ,

    they are literally just small ovens. They’re toaster ovens with a fan. Or maybe no fan at all, who knows. I don’t have on, on account of the whole oven situation.

    lone_faerie ,

    Mine is a toaster oven/air fryer combo and it’s amazing. I don’t even touch my normal oven anymore.

    cordlesslamp ,

    Would you share the model name please? I’m looking for something like that.

    Patches ,

    Ninja

    Marcbmann ,

    I got the cosori toaster oven. Quality is pretty good for the price. Customer service is great.

    lone_faerie ,

    Ninja Foodi SP101

    bitchkat ,

    I don’t like things on the counter so I’ll continue to use my oven. After 1.5 years, I just figured out that it has a pizza setting that actually works. No more soggy Totino’s for this chick!

    lone_faerie ,

    It actually flips up, so it takes up minimal counter space when you’re not using it

    affiliate ,

    air fryer seems like if your oven was smaller and then you had to wash it after every use. and also sometimes it’s made out of plastic (nonstick material)

    Synnr ,

    made out of plastic (nonstick material)

    So is it plastic or PFAS?

    sheogorath ,

    It’s PFAS all the way down, literally.

    Kit ,

    Why are you washing your air fryer after every use? Just put down aluminum foil or parchment paper, same as you do in the oven.

    vaultdweller013 ,

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    arc ,

    Air fryers are basically just small convection ovens. If you have an oven then an air fryer does nothing you can’t already do. That said, it does cook some things slightly faster due to the confined space. I’ve found mine will cook a chicken in just over an hour saving maybe 20 or 30 minutes on a regular oven. I guess it also saves energy / money but whether it ever pays for itself is another question.

    Corkyskog ,

    Air fryer is just pure convenience. I could cook the chicken in the oven and probably have it come out okay. But, I could cook it in the air fryer, have nice and crunchy skin and save a pan.

    EatATaco ,

    I find cleaning the air fryer to be a pain. It’s got the rack at the bottom that I have to scrum, and then the catch pan. If I cook a chicken in my cast iron pan in the oven, I have one flat surface to clean, as opposed to 1 flat surface and one complicated surface. What am I missing?

    Corkyskog ,

    Laziness.

    I clean it infrequently. Pretty much when grease from previous foods starts impacting the flavor in a negative way.

    I just heat it up and pour out the grease. Then scrub it, cleans up easily when everything is hot.

    I should add, small air fryers suck. You need a good sized one for it to be worth using.

    Ultragigagigantic ,
    @Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world avatar

    Put tinfoil at the the bottom. Throw tinfoil away if dirty.

    EatATaco ,

    The bin itself isn’t much of a problem. It’s the rack that holds the food up so the air can circulate underneath that’s the real bitch to clean.

    bitchkat ,

    Yeah the oven you just need to turn on clean cycle, leave the house for a few hours and then shop vac any ashes once it cools down.

    EatATaco ,

    My oven doesn’t even get dirty when I cook a chicken. I haven’t needed to clean mine in the 5 years I’ve lived in my house and we cook multiple times every week.

    But every time we use our air fryer, I need to clean it because it’s a mess.

    psycho_driver ,

    Also heats up considerably faster than a normal oven. It’s so good for reheating most stuff.

    Starayo ,
    @Starayo@lemmy.world avatar

    Generally it will cook a lot of things better than consumer ovens because consumer ovens are fucking garbage.

    But yeah, it’s just a small convection oven that heats faster and more evenly. I love mine. I mostly only use the oven for things that require a solid tray or don’t do well with the fan in close proximity (mostly certain frozen foods). And baking.

    bane_killgrind ,

    I have a convection hob that plugs in and it’s way better than the electric elements built into the stove for most stuff.

    I’m not going to cook a whole turkey any time soon. Bigger ovens like this are a product of post war consumerism.

    www.tasteofhome.com/…/354_Appliances_53.jpg?fit=3…

    arc ,

    I’ve had multiple airfryers, not against them per se. There are some things they cook better IMO. Cocktail sausages come out well. Whole chickens too. Anything you can fit the relatively small dimensions and either lays flat on the bottom or can withstand agitation/stirring AND has good heat dispersion / circulation. Small portions work better. Generally they’re easy to clean although steel baskets and plastic fixtures on tend to be very flimsy and they don’t last more than a year or two of regular use. I even had an airfryer which had this stirring mechanism in it which supposedly negated the need to turn stuff over but often it just caused some foods to disintegrate into starchy crumbs.

    As for consumer ovens, can’t say I’ve had any major issues ever with them, be they electric or gas. They’re less efficient and slower to warm which is their downside. Once they’re up and cooking I think they work fine and are obviously more versatile.

    Pick the best tool for the job at hand basically. I think also, that something like an instant pot (or similar) is a better and more versatile device to buy before an airfryer.

    acetanilide ,

    Yes but I have an air fryer setting on my oven. It was much more expensive and does nothing exciting!

    Socsa ,

    Even worse - it is a counter appliance and therefore the path of degeneracy.

    captainlezbian ,

    Mine folds up and is also my toaster oven

    sugar_in_your_tea ,

    Link? My wife wants a bigger one, and I don’t want to use that much space on such a thing. Costco has this one, but it doesn’t fold up.

    Are you maybe talking about the Ninja Foodi?

    captainlezbian ,

    Yeah it’s the foodi. My wife likes the air frying, I love the toaster oven aspect.

    UsernameIsTooLon ,

    I got a larger air fryer that has now replaced my small convection oven, microwave, and toaster. If anything, it’s reduced my counter appliances.

    zip ,

    That’s what we have. We found it when our previous microwave finally shit the bed and we got really lucky with the timing and everything; it was on sale and we had the money. It’s awesome! Especially in a very small apartment with barely any counter or cabinet space.

    sugar_in_your_tea , (edited )

    I’m going to have to try replacing my microwave with my air fryer. We mostly use the microwave for reheating food, so I’m worried the fryer will dry things out too much. Any tips?

    The other thing we use it for is popcorn, but we eat that almost exclusively in another room, so I could totally just move the microwave there (or get a dedicated air popper).

    EmoDuck ,

    There are two kinds of reactions to trying out an air fryer:

    “Wow, this is so much better than a normal oven” and

    “Wow, this is so much worse than a normal fryer”

    I am very much of the latter opinion

    AFKBRBChocolate ,

    Eh, to me the thing is trying to do is cook food in a way that’s similar to deep frying, but with a tiny fraction of the oil. I think they do that reasonably well. It’s not for everything, but they really are good for a number of things - way better for reheating leftover fried food than either a microwave or regular oven. I like the way vegetables come out, too.

    webghost0101 ,

    Mine is

    “Wow, this can prepare so many different things in an easy and lazy way, i dont care if its not as tasty, beats not having food because i was to tired”

    areyouevenreal ,

    Deep fat fryers are fairly easy to use though. Also quite quick. They don’t need cleaning with every use (maybe every 5 or 6 uses). What they aren’t good for is having a clean kitchen. Creates steam, oil splatter, and they smell when in use. Can be a complete bitch to clean too, especially depending on the design. Even the easy to clean ones eat soap as the waste and dirt is oil saturated.

    HoustonHenry ,

    If your gonna list the pros of a deep fryer, list the main con- smells like grease all the time

    ltxrtquq ,

    There would probably also be some health complications if you deep fry half as much food as I air fry/toaster oven.

    HoustonHenry ,

    My god, I’d be huger than I am now

    areyouevenreal ,

    I said they smell when in use. If you’re not using it it has a lid on, so you don’t really smell it. Unless you just don’t put the lid on…

    HoustonHenry ,

    I meant they smell when not in use, lid or not 🤷‍♂️

    areyouevenreal ,

    You either have a very sensitive nose or your doing something wrong.

    HoustonHenry ,

    Definitely #1, but I also wouldn’t completely rule out #2 🤔

    webghost0101 ,

    Agreed on all of these points.

    The major difference in effort is to carry the smelly deepfryer to the garage because no way would we keep that on the counter top and cramped storage tiny kitchen.

    While the air fryer has can easily live on the counter’s top especially with all the extra stuff it can do. (The Easiest soft Boiled eggs ftw) we keep it right next to the equally life saving expansive rice coocker. Workspace is a plank on the stove, who needs pans and pots? (Exaggeration)

    captainlezbian ,

    Ok I love my air fryer but I do not understand the love for rice cookers. It’s just so easy to cook rice already. The hard and annoying part is washing the rice

    webghost0101 ,

    The difference is the cooker consistently makes better rice then anyone i know, we imported it from Asia and holy fuck have they perfected the science of rice cooking.

    captainlezbian ,

    But does it pilaf? I like to toast my rice in a seasoned oil a little bit before cooking it. Ideally with spices similar to what are in the curry or beans going with it

    areyouevenreal ,

    If you actually cared about space you wouldn’t have an air fryer and a rice cooker. You would use a convection oven and a pan respectively. Also how is it any easier to do boiled eggs? Surely the hardest part is peeling it. Rice cookers I can see being useful because they avoid cleaning pans with rice stuck to the bottom all the time.

    webghost0101 ,

    Each their own executive dysfunction i guess,

    I do care a lot about space but i cant hold a job and cook a semi healthy meal everyday. So i barely used the space and just ate junk food and takeaway. Sacrificing the space for these devices means a decent meal can be optained with no more then 5 min of prep and wasting for a “ding”, no concentration required.

    On some days just dealing with finding the right pan or pot and remembering that oh shit i have sm on the fire is believe it or not a challenge for me personally.

    For boilder eggs i just trow em in the air fryer for 6min and there consistently perfect.

    Once their on my plate most of my personal executive dysfunction disappears, i never struggled opening eggs up.

    areyouevenreal ,

    I am a bit lost on what you can do with one that an oven can’t. I get they are slightly faster and more energy efficient, but functionally I thought they were basically the same. What am I missing?

    webghost0101 ,

    Technical abilities aren’t all that different towards an oven but convenience is at least compared to my conventional oven

    Airfryers are alot quicker. modern models dont even require preheating so there is much less need to plan ahead.

    The results is also much crispier (from trying to simulate a fryer) so some stuff intended for oven actually tastes better from an airfryer, i find more and more boxes of fried stuff like chicken nuggets that are intended for air fryers that ovens used to struggle with. (At least subjective tastewise) there is one exception which is pizza, i am rather peculiar in how i like my pizza. Reheating a slice does work but conventional oven absolutely wins the pizza game.

    Its somewhat easier to clean and maintain, most parts fit in the dishwasher, may vary by model.

    bonus is energy efficiency but admittedly the real major reason i and my household love it is the super low bar of a quick easy meal where before we defaulted much more to junk. It made a measurable positive difference to our diet without to much conscious effort.

    merc ,

    Yes, it’s good to cook rice in a, [checks notes], pan.

    areyouevenreal ,

    Are you saying you have never cooked rice in a pan?

    merc ,

    I’ve fried already-cooked rice in a pan, but when I cook rice it’s in a pot. Have you cooked rice in a pan?

    areyouevenreal ,

    Are you an American or something? A pot is just a subtype of pan to me. Does pan only mean frying pan where you live?

    merc ,

    I live in Canada, where a pan is shallow and has 1 long handle and a pot is deep and typically has 2 small handles. A pot isn’t a pan, although you can get crossovers like a saucepan which is typically deep like a pot but has a single long handle like a pan. If it’s not shallow it isn’t a pan. Pans can include frying pans, skillets, saute pans, even a wok would be considered a pan. Pans are for cooking at high heat. Pots are for boiling things or for preparing something that’s mostly liquid: soups, stews, sauces, etc. You can also have roasting pans or cake pans for use in the oven, but once again, the key thing is they have shallow sides compared to the bottom.

    To me, a pot being a subtype of pan is like saying a knife is just a subtype of spoon. They’re completely different things.

    areyouevenreal ,

    Yeah I am English. I would never call a cake tin a cake pan. Same with a roasting tray is never called a roasting pot. For it to be a pan it has to go on a hob. Even the way you describe things like a sauce pan seems contradictory, by your definition it should be a pot rather than a pan. It’s interesting to note what local differences exist in the use of language.

    You definitely can do high heat cooking in a pot. Most of them are stainless steel or cast iron after all, the material doesn’t care.

    merc ,

    You definitely can do high heat cooking in a pot. Most of them are stainless steel or cast iron after all, the material doesn’t care.

    Sure, but most of the time when you’re doing high-heat cooking you’re not using a lot of liquid so a pan with its shallow sides makes it easier to get a spatula or tongs in to move things around. The high sides are only useful when you want to heat a large volume of stuff. Typically that means you’re using a water-based liquid (even something like a tomato sauce is mostly water based), so the heat will be at most 100C.

    I suspect the British version of “pan” including what I’d call a pot must be from after North American English and British English diverged. The etymology of pan says that it has referred to a shallow thing since even before ancient Greek:

    This is supposed to be from Latin patina “shallow pan, dish, stew-pan,” from Greek patane “plate, dish,” from PIE *pet-ano-, from root *pete- “to spread.”

    I guess the North American English dialects kept this meaning of a shallow thing, whereas British English focused on whether or not it goes on a burner (which apparently you call a hob).

    areyouevenreal ,

    I’ve heard differing interpretations even in england. According to my dad for example a pot is made of ceramic, so if it’s made of stainless steel it’s a pan.

    bitchkat ,

    When my mom had a deep fryer, she made us put the used oil back in a bottle and clean the fryer after every use. She just went back to using a pot after few times because it was less hassle.

    bitchkat ,

    The only time I used an air fryer was when my appliances got destroyed during height of covid. I ordered new ones right away and had to change my order after 5 months because none of them had arrived or had a possible date. I borrowed an air fryer to get me by. I ate a lot of pizza rolls.

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