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Elden Ring Player to Sue FromSoftware Over High Game Difficulty

Another article that highlighs inherent flaws in the American legal system. How can this potentially be an actual lawsuit? How can “journalists” even entertain reporting on this?

Honestly I’m just posting to laugh at my fellow lemmings responses and watch see how the plaintiff is roasted for not gitting gud.

But, there is a real conversation here around continued ignorance of game development and the value of difficult games as a value proposition. Afterall, the person attempting to sue from did choose to purchase the games willingly knowing they’re not for scrub casuals like themselves.

What do you all think, is difficulty gating content a real issue? Should dev’s have some kind of legal requirement to appease players that can spec a build properly? Is it Thursday and I’m just looking for some easy laughs at a morons expense?

Sordid ,
@Sordid@lemmy.world avatar

there’s a guy on 4chan who’s planning to sue Fromsoft

Lol, no. There’s a guy on 4chan who’s saying wildly outlandish shit in order to have a laugh at anyone who takes it seriously.

Angry_Autist ,

In America, you can sue anyone for literally anything.

Doesn’t mean you’ll win, but it’s basically a highly enshrined natural right that only the rich can make best use of.

squirrelwithnut ,

People can sue for whatever reason they want, but that doesn’t mean a court will entertain it. I’m sure whatever judge this is put in front of will dismiss it immediately.

As for the difficulty discussion. Not all games are made for all players, and that’s OK. If it’s too hard for you, play sometime else. Soulsborne games do not need difficulty settings, and I’m glad they don’t.

jjjalljs ,

I refuse to believe this is real.

BruceTwarzen ,

I’m convinced that FromSoftware has the biggest weirdos as their fanbase. I never played a FromSoftware game before elden ring, and i wish i would’ve just played the game and never looked at forums or wherever they throw up their opinions. Before i bought the dlc i watched a video that was titled something like: the elden ring dlc is really bad or something like that. The video had a ton of views and a lot of people seemed to agree, so i watched it, because i wasn’t sure if i should spend the money or not. The video made me actually mad because of how absolutely stupid it was. The brain-dead dude even got mad because of the word “scadutree” “Yeah what is that, i’m pretty sure it’s supposed to be called shadowtree, they can’t even get that right.” These guys have some sort of disability where they can’t enjoy the game if they use anything but a stick as a weapon.

Imagine someone complaining about DOOM because it’s too hard, and you go:"i don’t know, once you get the plasma cannon… "I DON’T USE THE PLASMA CANNON, I ONLY USE THE STARTER PISTOL, WHY DO THE DEVS MAKE THE GAME SO HARD? SHOTGUNS ARE FOR BABIES JUST PISTOL.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Git…

…it for PC and cheat. That’s what I did.

BruceTwarzen ,

If only they realised that no one cared that they beat the game with only a club without upgrading it.

Abnorc ,

I’m suing you for cheating.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

I’m countersuing for emotional distress due to a frivolous lawsuit.

josefo ,

I agree with the general sentiment of my fellow commenters, however, coffee is hot, and there are labels on the coffee stating that because of a lawsuit like this. What a interesting precedent to games will this set. How you put a disclaimer in a game stating it’s difficulty level? Compared to what?

Angry_Autist ,

Plaintiff will have to prove some form of legally enshrined harm has occurred.

I can’t imagine what kind of results from not winning due to difficulty that may be appealing to a judge as a form of ‘damage’.

josefo ,

Emotional trauma? Discrimination? Ableism? With this games accessibility has been the ongoing issue, they could argue around that.

Angry_Autist ,

Significant uptick in fools to block today on lemmy.

It feels like reddit 2015 up in here.

GladiusB ,
@GladiusB@lemmy.world avatar

I’m suing Twister for my inability to be flexible

at_an_angle ,

I’m suing Pornhub for my carpal tunnel.

hal_5700X ,

What a joke. Git good, /v/ user.

Etterra ,

This is like suing an MMO because you want to solo raid dungeons so you can enjoy the content without having to play multiplayer.

Don’t get me wrong, their opinion is fine. But the lawsuit is idiotic. Just do what the rest of us do when we’re screwed over by circumstance and choices: build a bridge and get over it.

The only circumstance I could see a “too hard” lawsuit maybe possibly hypothetically working out is if the customer was disabled. They might have a slim chance if they could use the Americans with Disability Act (ADA) to sledgehammer the game developer with. I personally don’t believe it would work, but I’m not a lawyer so what the hell do I know.

Crikeste ,

I don’t even think the ‘too difficult’ crowd will get behind this person. What an insanely stupid thing to try and pull off.

And if it is successful, all it will do is harm the gaming industry into hegemony.

Angry_Autist ,

Pretty sure people have actually sued MMOs over group content, several times if I recall.

None of them won, of course.

AceFuzzLord ,

I’d say it’s absolutely insane that someone might actually be able to take the creators of Elden Ring to court over the fact they’re not good enough to beat a game intentionally made to be hard. I imagine they’re the same people who would try and sue Sintendo over a Mrio Mker level that they can’t beat first try.

RobotZap10000 ,

Psst! Your censors are making italics! Add a backslash to both of them to mke it wrk.

AceFuzzLord ,

Thanks for the heads up. This whole text formatting thing can be annoying.

Cethin ,

I the US you can sue anyone for anything. You’ll lose for stuff like this post, but you can do it all you want. The fact anyone is reporting on this is the issue. It should be ignored.

MirthfulAlembic ,
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The article is using as a source a 4chan post that had a docket number that didn’t check out. I’m pretty sure this is a joke someone took seriously because they needed to publish something today.

This would get almost immediately dismissed by any judge.

johannesvanderwhales ,

You can file a lawsuit about just about anything. It doesn’t mean it’s going anywhere.

lolola ,
@lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Where article? Am I stupid?

Broken_Monitor ,

It’s not even that hard. I seriously was bracing for some ridiculous bullshit based on the response but I haven’t struggled at all through it. Sometimes I do hit a hard boss and explore to come back later, but nothing insurmountable. I still have yet to finish but Sekiro still makes this games seem like a walk in the park. Hell, all the Dark souls games are far harder too.

Katana314 ,

Given its open world nature, I would bet the difficulty of the game varies greatly depending on where someone randomly decides to explore.

And, any repeat attempts won’t reveal much because on a second go the player will have experience with systems that will keep them safe or at least better conditioned around their losses.

Broken_Monitor ,

I guess that’s the thing really, is all you gotta do is recognize you can go somewhere else. Come back and practice the hard part occasionally. Go find more scadu fragments, new weapons, spells, tools, experiment a little. Hell if you really need go respec and make a focused build. Or summon people to help you. There’s so many options, I hit some hard stuff but it never felt like a brick wall.

Katana314 ,

This once again tires back in with patience and recognizing which parts are hard by comparison.

“Time to try Elden Ring! Hm. This first area I’ve spent 20 minutes in is too hard. I’ll go somewhere else. Actually, this other area I spent half an hour in is also too hard. I’ll go somewhere else. Hmm…actually…”

Not to mention, understanding the stat systems enough to respec can be hard itself. And, summoning people to help you often means you’re not learning or engaging with the game mechanics yourself (or, getting slaughtered by invaders - patience again)

There’s genuine reasons why those things as a form of difficulty adaptation do not work well for everyone. People get an inconsistent and unreadable experience, and conclude simply “The game is too hard.” Often, that statement is made with incomplete information, but that’s what they’ve got from trying to learn it themselves. Obviously, if you look up walkthroughs it’s boringly easy and has no sense of discovery.

braindefragger ,

Source?

LostWanderer ,

It’s the oddest choice to sue FromSoftware because Elden Ring, a Souls-like which, is advertised to be a very difficult game. Personally, I stay away from Fromsoft games because of their difficulty, I play games for fun; any game that requires an extreme amount of skill right out off the bat is simply not it to me. I guess this person can waste their money doing whatever they’d like; I don’t see them having any hope of winning this frivolous lawsuit.

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