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600 more active users in the last few days, from 47225 to 47827 in two days

Source: lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats

Context: Reddit made a few controversial annoucements, feel free to have a look at !reddit

For people wanting to discuss why some people focus on Lemmy’s growth, here is a recent thread from !asklemmy :

Shadow ,
@Shadow@lemmy.ca avatar

We’ve definitely noticed an increase in signups at lemmy.ca when that news was announced. Not all active users yet, but a lot of signups

Blaze OP ,

Thanks for the insight!

sunaurus ,

Interesting! We’ve had quite a noticeable spike of sign-ups on lemm.ee as well

Blaze OP ,

I have been mentioning it on Reddit a few times, so glad to see that helps!

kionite231 ,

I hope you are doing a good job of converting more Redditors to Lemmy :D

BlackLaZoR ,
@BlackLaZoR@kbin.run avatar

IMO fediverse is big enough now to serve as reddit replacement.

rglullis , (edited )
@rglullis@communick.news avatar

We already have instances that go down or suffer from intermittent federation issues when lemmy.world gets a bit more active. The most conservative estimates are putting Reddit at 75 million DAU. If we get to 1% of that, you can bet that our current network would choke, badly.

Not only we need more instances, we also need to be a lot smarter about their organization and how to architect this network. I think we will only be able to grow larger if we make a more intentional separation between topic-based instances and “people-home” instances, so that we can have a better spread of the load.

machinin ,

We need more instances, but we need to be a lot smarter about the structure. I think we will only be able to grow larger if we make a more intentional separation between topic-based instances and “people-home” instances, so that we can have a better spread of the load.

I don’t know if it would help with load-balancing, but I feel hash tags would be better than communities.

rglullis ,
@rglullis@communick.news avatar

This goes against the design of ActivityPub, which requires people to follow actors. A hashtag does not have a single name, so people would have to follow all servers and/or the servers would have to relay activities that are not originating from their actors. It is possible, clunky to implement.

ericjmorey ,
@ericjmorey@discuss.online avatar

Isn’t that just Mastodon and similar services? I prefer the community url scheme more that the hashtag scheme.

muntedcrocodile ,
@muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee avatar

The total federated bandwith is definatly a bottle neck we are starting to approach (ie what we see with .world and it overloading small instances). Not sure the solution here but I’m sure we can work past it without compromising on decentralisation.

rglullis ,
@rglullis@communick.news avatar

Not sure the solution here

I am more and more convinced that we will need something like what I outlined here.

ericjmorey ,
@ericjmorey@discuss.online avatar

Good article. But the trend of the internet it to not use a browser but an app that often emulates a browser.

Lojcs ,

It’s not the size, it’s the content. Lemmyverse is a lot more serious and honestly, gloomy. Average age seems to be quite higher too. If all you used reddit for was news, politics, technical discussion and porn lemmy might be perfectly fine but there’s way less meme or entertainment content here

rglullis ,
@rglullis@communick.news avatar

There is less of everything. Less sports, less hobbies, less local groups, less crafts, less academic discussions, less indie hackers and entrepreneurs, less fashion/brand/style enthusiasts…

Memes and entertainment are too shallow and can be found anywhere, we need to focus on getting some people focused on the deeper end. Reddit’s strength is in its long tail of interests. Instead of running blackouts or general protests, we should have focused on bringing one specific community to Lemmy (like e.g, knitting), figure out the issues and support them to migrate fully. If we pulled that off, other communities would have a template to emulate.

AstralPath ,

The way I see it is that when I’ve run out of content on Lemmy, that’s my indication to put down my phone and do something else. My buddy framed it in that way during a discussion we had the other day and I think he hit the nail on the head.

Lojcs ,

If I only browsed my subscribed feed that’d maybe amount to to 5-10 minutes of stuff a day. On the other hand if I open the all feed there’s an endless steam of the stuff I mentioned above. As I said, what’s lacking isn’t volume it’s the content of the volume

Blaze OP ,

entertainment

memes

I’m surprised by this, I feel like memes are everywhere

cheddar ,
@cheddar@programming.dev avatar

If anything, this only proves their point: there is less of everything. Compare this amount of content a similar sub on reddit.

https://i.imgur.com/nzoqnVa.png

Lojcs ,

I don’t mean discussion about entertainment, I mean communities that entertain you like damnthatsinteresting, unexpected, nextfuckinglevel etc. And considering how much of their content is in video form, I don’t think they can viably exist in lemmy.

memes are everywhere

Maybe generic and reposted memes are, but nothing of the sort of niche meme communities that constantly popped up in reddit

tehmics ,

Every time reddit announces something dumb I open Lemmy again. I’d rather be here on principle but the content/users just aren’t here yet. Where are the cross post bots?

Blaze OP ,

Which content are you interested in?

lemmit.online can be used to crosspost content from Reddit, but you won’t get much comments as people tend to prefer content curated by humans

!newcommunities has a weekly thread with active communities.

Elevator7009 ,

The content/users aren't here so I'm stubbornly trying to post content and comment whenever I can.

Even if I shout into the void, or get a few upvotes and little other engagement.

Although I understand it's not for everyone, I encourage you to help out with that ;-;

Blaze OP ,

Even if I shout into the void, or get a few upvotes and little other engagement.

For people in similar situations, !fedigrow

catloaf ,

Why not cross post some of the content yourself?

CMahaff ,

Out of curiosity, what content are you looking for? Discovery on Lemmy can be a problem, but sometimes the communities are there and even active, just buried.

But may I also suggest searching by Top Day/12-hour/6-hour to see the most active posts. Lemmy’s scaled algorithm still doesn’t get it quite right IMO.

Usernameblankface ,
@Usernameblankface@lemmy.world avatar

Cross post bots? Why cross post bots?

Etterra ,

Hey congratulations you discovered a statistical anomaly.

rglullis ,
@rglullis@communick.news avatar

It may be, but could you try making the same remark without sounding like a toxic asshole?

TrickDacy ,

Congratulations you discovered pointless negativity

MataVatnik ,
@MataVatnik@lemmy.world avatar

Is thus just for one instance or across many instances

Blaze OP ,

All of the instances

rickdg ,
@rickdg@lemmy.world avatar

Not saying it’s the bots… but it’s the bots, isn’t it?

dogsnest ,
@dogsnest@lemmy.world avatar

This guy bots.

willya ,
@willya@lemmyf.uk avatar

Was wondering what kicked off more signups.

BlackLaZoR ,
@BlackLaZoR@kbin.run avatar

Probably reddit announcing some shitty monetization scheme

CMahaff ,

The CEO said they were going to add pay-walled subreddits at an earnings call.

So… Yep.

CircuitSpells ,

Who didn’t see this coming from a thousand miles away when they announced they were going public? Here comes the endless churn of trying to keep shareholders artificially interested

Blaze OP ,

Yes, it’s in the post body

EddieTee77 ,

Love it!

xc2215x ,

Good to see.

ericjmorey ,
@ericjmorey@discuss.online avatar

Active accounts is not active users. We shouldn’t lie to ourselves. I wouldn’t be surprised if the number of active users is half of the active account number.

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