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aniki , in When I fry my eggs in a small non-stick pan, they leave a plastic film around the egg. Why??

You have the heat too high and no surface liquid to transfer heat from pan to egg (like a fat) so the part of the egg that hits the pan first is denaturing super fast into a puck while the rest of the egg cooks slower. First, ditch the non-stick or be ready to spend a LOT more, second, cook your eggs with a spot of fat.

Revan343 ,

In a shitty non-stick like this, a ton of fat rather than a spot of it would probably also do the trick.

But I suggest well-seasoned cast iron

surewhynotlem ,

If you use seasoned cast iron do you not need to add oil?

BearOfaTime ,

You do, it’s more a matter of it being pretty stick resistant and the pan density stabilizes the heat from the stove.

Revan343 ,

What bear said, and also oil isn’t just about preventing sticking, it also helps transfer heat to the food

aniki ,

Fat is the thermal paste of the cooking world.

robolemmy , in When I fry my eggs in a small non-stick pan, they leave a plastic film around the egg. Why??
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that is what you get when you burn an egg, in my experience. I’m not sure why it’s happening no matter how low you have the heat, though.

Is it a super cheap, all aluminum (or aluminium) pan? If it’s very thin and extremely heat conductive, you might not be able to get your heat low enough to not burn the egg.

First thing I’d try is adding some fat to the pan before putting the egg in. Even with supposed non-stick, throw some butter in there.

SnokenKeekaGuard , in When I fry my eggs in a small non-stick pan, they leave a plastic film around the egg. Why??

That’s the egg sticking to the pan, try using more fat, that worked for me. Or maybe I just needed to break in the pan. Either case, stop using metal on non stick. Use a silicone out wooden spatula

Galapagon ,

Stop using non-stick* Switch to cast iron for cheap or stainless steel for fancy

Hawke ,

Not sure why you’re downvoted here, but you’re right.

ApathyTree ,
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Probably because of the steep learning curve, especially for stainless.

I’ve been using stainless for years and I have a stoneware nonstick for cooking sticky stuff like potatoes and eggs. I just don’t have the skill down for those yet.

Also cast iron being cheap is kinda laughable. It’s really expensive, even though it will last forever.

Hawke ,

It’s not particularly expensive. Cast iron and stainless steel are both about $50 for a pan, with prices going basically as high as you want for either.

umbrella ,
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why? whats better about cast iron or stainless steel?

in my experience stainless steel is awful and its always a mess to clean.

Kbobabob ,

I used to think this too. It just takes a little bit of time to learn the proper technique. Managing heat and a little bit of fat will make them more or less able to be wiped out. I pretty much only use carbon steel and stainless now. I used to use cast iron but I got tired of lugging it around, so it only comes out if I need to sear a steak now.

agent_flounder ,
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I only ever cook eggs in my cast iron skillet. If I am patient enough to get it hot enough and cook with butter, and don’t mess around with the egg too much very little sticks and what does is a cinch to clean. The pans are heavy as hell though. I don’t lug except car camping. I haven’t tried stainless yet but it sounds like it would be worth doing.

Kbobabob ,

I have found that I prefer the better temperature control I get from carbon or stainless. Plus they weigh a lot less.

umbrella ,
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please elaborate on your technique!

usually i have to use more oil/butter/yadda but it ends up still sticking.

Kbobabob ,

I remember someone once saying, “hot pan, cold oil, food won’t stick”. So I heat my pan, put a little butter in it. It should sizzle and melt but not brown. If it starts browning then the pan is too hot. Swirl it around a little then add egg. Temperature control is really the biggest factor I’ve found. It’s also ok to take the pan off the burner if it’s too hot. This is especially true if making scrambled eggs.

Sunforged ,

A single steelwire sponge can clean a cast iron easy in 60 seconds for even the biggest messes.

Most people that say cast iron are difficult just haven’t been properly taught how to take care of one (including myself in the past). They are a buy for life product, my wife has skillets that have been in the family for generations.

agent_flounder ,
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I just use a lodge bristle brush. But yeah they’re easy enough to clean.

Galapagon ,

You can get similar non stick properties from learning to use cast iron or stainless steel. If you’re interested, I’d say start with cast iron, it’s cheaper and while you’re still learning how to make it non-stick super easy to clean by literally scratching it with chainmail!

FatLegTed ,
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And it'll strengthen your arms!

umbrella ,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

i actually have an almost unused stainless steel pan.

how can i make it non stick?

Galapagon ,

Google “stainless steel water test” but basically the water starts sliding around on the pan.

For eggs it needs to be hot enough to just maintain this effect, or else they can burn and start sticking again. You can also add a bit of oil at this point but it’s not strictly necessary and can cause smoke depending on the oil used.

Unfortunately the quality of your pan also has an effect here. 3-5 layer “all clad” is best. But if you wound up with partial clad like me (the kind with a visible disk on the bottom) the section that isn’t clad will almost always get at least a bit of food stuck to it.

Learning stainless steel imo also takes more patience if you’re on electric, because you’ll need to wait longer for the temperature to settle, but not impossible. I switched to magnets! If you want to give magnets a shot, but don’t want to spend $2000+, you can get an induction hot plate online for ~$100

umbrella ,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

I looked that up and it sounds mighty hard! It seems I just opened a pandora’s box of stuff I need to learn to actually do this.

And the quality of my pan is probably not the best either.

Galapagon ,

It’s okay, just practice getting the water to bead, that’ll help a lot, and if something gets stuck, plastic or wood scrapers and barkeeper’s friend will help.

Sometimes I’ve also boiled stuck on food, that’s helped it release too.

And worst case, you make mistakes and can learn from them, no harm no foul I’d say!

Galapagon ,

My wife still does eggs in the cast iron, which is fine, anything that gets stuck on we just scrape off.

Cast iron is extra post cleaning care Stainless steel is extra cooking and cleaning care. Get barkeeper’s friend.

douglasg14b ,
@douglasg14b@lemmy.world avatar

I like how you’re downloaded for asking a perfectly fine question.

This really is just Reddit v2

Galapagon ,

No toxic forever chemicals for me.

If you don’t use metal, and don’t overheat the pan it should be fine, but once I learned ss/ci I got rid of all my non stick and never looked back.

NataliePortland , in When I fry my eggs in a small non-stick pan, they leave a plastic film around the egg. Why??
@NataliePortland@lemmy.ca avatar

I’ve never seen anything like that. Weird!

merde , (edited ) in {Discussion} Shitty Knives

i wouldn’t consider the kiwi a shitty knife. It’s a cheap knife, yes, dulls quickly, yes, but it’s a perfect slicer.

We have knives that cost 10 or 15 kiwis, with good steels and impeccable handles, i still reach out to kiwi for quick preparations

mycatsays , in [Question] best ways to freeze lunch meats and cheeses?

If you already have the cheese on hand, do an experiment. Cut off a piece and freeze it overnight. Next day, defrost it and see how it is. Because the issue you’re concerned about is change to texture or taste after freezing and thawing, you only need to leave it long enough to be fully frozen through - not as long as you normally would for storage.

(You wouldn’t want to buy a bulk size piece of meat/cheese just to experiment, but if you already have some on hand it’s worth trying for yourself to find out if you’ll find the result satisfactory.)

Baguette , in How can I make (east) asian food healthy?

You could maybe sub half the doubianjiang with low sodium miso, its not an exact subsitute but i figure it’ll still provide that strong flavor you want

Pat12 OP ,

hmm this may be an option, thank you! can’t find low sodium for other pastes

lqdrchrd , in How can I make (east) asian food healthy?

I don’t really know anything about cooking Asian food past a curry, but in general I tend to just skip out on unhealthy stuff I won’t miss when I cook at home for my family.

For example, if I was making barbecue chicken for a gathering, I’d use a good amount of brown sugar for a nice caramelization and depth of flavor. I made it at home for myself last week, however, and just didn’t add the sugar. Was it worse? Sure, a little, but I likely wouldn’t have noticed if you didn’t tell me and it’s one less meal full of sugar.

I am trying to train myself that not every meal I make has to be a treat, and that sometimes just being healthy and filling is enough.

PlantJam ,

Going a different direction with the flavors is another option. Lemon pepper chicken instead of barbecue chicken, or a vinaigrette dressing instead of a cream sauce. Some of these alternate recipes still have plenty of intense flavors without being as intense on the calories.

Pat12 OP ,

This doesn’t really answer my question, these sauces are staples/basics in Asian dishes, we cannot just eliminate entire categories of dishes

PlantJam ,

Sorry, it was more of a response to the parent comment than your original question.

Rentlar , in How can I make (east) asian food healthy?

The Lemmy answer is beans. Japanese food I know, but also Korean and Chinese food use beans in every which way which taste great.

PrivateNoob , in How can I make (east) asian food healthy?

Most probably you need soy sauce for asian dishes. Luckily there are a bunch of soy types. Maybe you could check out sweet soy sauces, perhaps those have lower sodium content.

Pat12 OP ,

I am not referring to soy sauce, I don’t know about gochujang but I have not seen low sodium versions of doubanjiang anywhere, maybe I can’t look around

This is one of the sauces I mean: malafood.com/…/essential-guide-to-doubanjiangs

Bennettiquette ,

are you by chance an enterprising individual? it sounds like you’ve stumbled onto an underserved and untapped market: healthier alternatives to traditional base ingredients. i’d be very surprised if there were not methods waiting to be discovered for prepping bean paste, fish sauce, doubanjiang etc in more health-conscious ways. the question is, who can combine culinary expertise, fermentation knowledge, cultural respect and a drive to innovate?

Pat12 OP ,

i’d be very surprised if there were not methods waiting to be discovered for prepping bean paste, fish sauce, doubanjiang etc in more health-conscious ways.

i think the problem is all of these pastes are fermented and i at least don’t know how to ferment something without using a lot of salt. even make your own doubanjiang paste will tell you to use a lot of salt to ferment the beans

Bennettiquette ,

i don’t know either, but i do know that with the kimchi and kombucha trend train taking over the west, learning about fermentation should be much more accessible. maybe there are some creative alternative prep methods, like pairing less salt with celery juice, or even seaweed - or starting with leftover whey/brine from a previous fermentation. if i were you i’d try a deep focused dive on fermentation methods around the world and experiment. hope you figure something out and when you do, brand it and revolutionize cuisine!

xmunk , in How can I make (east) asian food healthy?

Professionally cooked western food also uses a lot of sugar and salt - especially frozen foods. Sugar is really fucking addictive so eating high sugar foods regularly will lower how much sweetness you’ll get from it - this sounds especially relevant if you’re directly adding sugar in addition to the sauce.

Sugar and salt both have very negative side effects if over consumed but a moderate amount of them is fine. I’d suggest trying to scale back the total sweetness to whatever level you can tolerate without it becoming bland and use more flavored spices to make up the difference. Additionally, not all sugars are created equal and it might benefit you to try switching off of refined sugar to one of the alternative sugars so that your body can more easily process your sweeteners.

Opinions may vary but I think it’s incorrect to try to completely eliminate sweeteners from your diet, usually I’ve seen people suffer from extreme cravings that drive them to occasionally binge eat candy before returning to a “sugar free” lifestyle. It’s important to respect yourself and allow for moderation rather than trying to cold turkey yourself. Duck sauce is extremely sweet but having a small quantity of meat smothered in duck sauce among an otherwise balanced meal can be a nice and reasonable treat.

Pat12 OP ,

Many western foods made at home can easily made with less salt and rarely require sugar to be added.

I can’t reduce the salt or sugar in the premade sauces that are required in east asian dishes. I don’t know what duck sauce is but we don’t eat that in asia; it’s also a condiment and not a required ingredient in our dishes like fermented bean paste

this sample recipe for taiwanese spicy beef soup which is a classic taiwanese dish as you can see requires both rock sugar and salt to be added to the already salt doubanjiang: seonkyounglongest.com/taiwanese-beef-noodle-soup/

daddybutter ,

Duck sauce is a name that was adapted in American Chinese cooking. The original product, which is used in Asia (particularly known with Canto food), is plum sauce. Same thing, though you may get a slightly different product depending on where it was made.

just_another_person , (edited )

There’s a huge difference between using salt and sugars, and adding TOO MUCH of them. Just cutting the suggested amount added in half gets you closer to what you’re asking for. As for the premade stuff, just add less, or dilute them a bit maybe.

Pat12 OP ,

I think you were the only one who understood my question

Cutting down on the sauces is a good alternative and what I’m doing in the meantime; unfortunately I think these sauces are heavy contributors to the flavour of the dish so the result is the flavour is kinda weak in the dish. Doubanjiang or gochujang for example are staples of the respective Asian cuisines and dishes.

angrystego ,

I think some kind of food is just not designed to be healthy. It was made to be tasty without thinking about health. You can either make it more healthy and less tasty or you can eat it less often (as a treat).

Pat12 OP ,

I think some kind of food is just not designed to be healthy. It was made to be tasty without thinking about health. You can either make it more healthy and less tasty or you can eat it less often (as a treat).

yep, that’s true. our typical dishes are actually not much meat and have a lot of vegetables like water spinach dishes

TheGiantKorean , in [Discussion] What are some of the nuances of cooking from world cuisines?
@TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world avatar

Just wanted to note that Indian cuisine is as varied as cuisines from China or many other countries. My wife is Goan, and her family loves meat, especially pork. Their dinners are very meat or fish centric.

Korean cuisine tends to be salty, hot, sour and/or sweet. Something like jjimdak is primarily salty and sweet, maybe with a bit of heat. Kimchi is of course sour and hot.

FuglyDuck , (edited ) in {Discussion} Shitty Knives
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I had a pair of $40 knives from ikea that lasted years (more than a decade, maybe close to two). They were moly steel so they didn’t loose edge quickly, and had decent balance.

I eventually upgraded to Whustoff ikon classics (the POM handle,) for the 3 knives I use (8” chef, boning, pairing.)

The reality is you can sharpen a shitty Walmart butter knife to a razor’s edge very easily. Being sharp doesn’t make a good knife- it’s the steel quality that affects edge retention; as well as the balance and the grip’s contour/shape; the stiffness and thickness of the blade, etc.

Imo, the cheapo ikea knives performed just fine. For their value… they’re quite probably better than whustoffs, no question. They’re both made with reasonable quality steel, both full tang, with similar contours in the blade profile and handle, etc.

But if you consider side by side, the whustoffs do perform much better. It’s not any one thing- the balance is better, the blades are thinner, stiffer where they they’re supposed to be, etc.

There are a lot of small things that add up to that. The distal taper, the taper from spine to edge (in the ikeas they’re flat in both directions,); the steel is better and holds edges longer while being more easily, less strain on my hand;

Ultimately, you don’t need whustoffs or anything expensive- and a lot of your expensive knives are shit knives with marketing (especially “japanese” knives of dubious provenance).

But if you can afford them, they are better. Especially if you cook a lot. If they’re “better enough” to justify their cost is a personal decision. My mom uses Costco steak knives for everything. (And in part because they can’t keep knives sharp so don’t see the point. They float around the sink… get stuffed in the dishwasher, etc,)

Cheradenine OP ,

My favorite knives are vintage MAC. The handles suck, the tip is rounded, and they have a stupid hanging ‘cross’ thing at the tip which just catches debris. Use a magnetic knife rack like a normal person. They were $90 new. If blood clots on the brain were your thing I’m sure that was a good deal. It’s a $20 knife.

I had a few from the flea market. I ground tips on them and made new handles. They have a great balance between whippy and thin enough to do nice slices of Shitake mushrooms or Shallots, and strong enough to break down Squash.

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/451d40b1-353b-4751-92c6-7e46c71078c3.jpeg

FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

That’s an example of an overpriced Japanese knife, yes.

That doesn’t mean all knives more than $20 bucks are overpriced, however. I would also contend that the modifications you made; make it no longer a MAC.

berryjam , in [Question] best ways to freeze lunch meats and cheeses?

I cut cheese into little cubes and freeze it, it does pretty well imo

TheGiantKorean , in [Question] - What are things you like to cook that are better the second day?
@TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world avatar

Chili is much better the next day. There’s even a chili restaurant in Virginia that makes their chili the day before, refrigerates it, then heats it back up specifically because of this (the name of the restaurant escapes me at the moment, but I used to love going there).

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