Generally, for freezing anything, the faster you can freeze it, the better. Ice crystals grow as things freeze, and if they grow slow, they grow big, and they disrupt the structure of the food, and make the texture mushy.
Something I frequently freeze is greens like kale. I’ll harvest more than I can eat from my garden, so I freeze it. I basically wash it, then lay it out on cookie sheets in a single layer, and put those in a chest freezer. After I’ve had enough time to wash the next batch, I’ll go down and peel the frozen kale off the cookie sheet and put it into a container of some kind.
Everything freezes fine, just a matter of how it’s packaged and how long it’s frozen. Only thing you’re sacrificing is quality of texture and flavor over long extended periods—if frozen properly, food is safe to eat indefinitely (whether previously frozen and then thawed food is enjoyable to eat is another story).
Freeze the meats in small quantities that are easily consumable within a couple of days. Absolutely do not freeze and then thaw and refreeze larger chunks of anything—if something previously frozen is thawed and is past its sell-by date, it’s usually safe to eat for only a day or so.
Also if you’re running into the issue of having too much bulk meat—stop acquiring more bulk meat. Influencers love to sell the idea of DIY bulk food prep but most of the time that doesn’t make sense for people, for a multitude of reasons.
Yeah, when I talk about freezing chunks of meet to thaw and slice later, I’d be cutting into 1-2lb chunks to slice as needed, not trying to thaw and refreeze a whole 5+lb log of meat.
And it’s really the quality I’m worried about, I understand it from a food safety standpoint, I’m just trying to figure out the best ways to freeze which things, don’t want to take a pack of meat out of the freezer and have it be tasteless mush or dried out or whatever.
Also the savings doing this are pretty nuts, in some cases I’m getting the whole thing for the price of just a couple pounds if I got it from the deli counter. I think I got a 6lb pastrami for about the price of what maybe 2lbs at the grocery store would have cost me, cheaper per lb than some of the cheaper lunch meats, so sadly even if I end up throwing half of it away (which is what I’m try to and so far successfully avoiding) I’m still saving money.
I hate “recipe websites” that bury the instructions in unrelated bodies of text. Enjoy.
“Making vegetable stock
Get three large carrots, an onion, two leeks, and a bulb of fennel. Peel the carrots and onion; discard all but the white and light-green part of the leeks. Wash the leeks and fennel. Chop everything up finely and put it in a big pot with a few glugs of oil.
Now you’re going to sweeten up these vegetables by cooking them over low heat. You don’t want to brown them—that will make a darker, richer variant of this stock, which should be bright and clean. Add a large three-fingered pinch of salt to draw out the vegetables’ juices and turn the heat to low. Cook, stirring occasionally, for about fifteen minutes. Taste an onion. It should be quite sweet.
Add enough water to cover the vegetables, then add that amount of water twice more. Bring the water to a bare simmer and then let it cook for forty-five minutes.
That absolutely applies to harder cheeses. Cheddar, provolone, parmesan all freeze and defrost with no issues. Cream cheese changes the texture and will not be that good anymore. Brie and camembert get a bit funny too.
I guess I can understand what you are saying. I have lived out of my vehicle off and on for about ten years, and having a full tine, good "chopping" knife that I can sharpen with what I might use on a shovel is really nice. I have had the same maine knife for 15 years. It is ok. I don't have to work on it much. It says "Chicago Cutlery" on it. It has been put up wet, been used in snow, and I have no money invested in it. It works great.
I also worked in a kitchen once, with really nice knives, it isn't that nice. But it was cheap. Full tine, and not that weird serrated but not serrated.
I’m not speaking on cooking knives as I already have a set of handmade carbon steel knives from a local blacksmith. I also have a cheap chinese made 1075 carbon steel cleaver from amazon. (One I had to modify to get it to be what I wanted.) I’m speaking from pocket knife experience.
I daily carry a Spyderco Tenacious, which if you know steels, has a pretty soft steel in the grand scheme of things. (8cr13MoV)
I’ve attempted trying knives with the “super steels” and it’s such a chore to sharpen them when they get dull that the time just isn’t worth it.
I honestly prefer the D2 from Boker as it holds an edge far better, but still is only slightly annoying to sharpen.
There are pros and cons to all these metals but that harder crap I tend to save for jobs that actually need that kind of steel. (Lean meats, etc.) Chopping some veggies wouldn’t call for me to break out my nice knives as they take too much care to keep in good condition for just chopping up some spring onions or what-not.
There is something to be said for a knife to be able to make a simple job that much smoother and easier for sure. Not worth the trade-off in total time consumed though. Cheap, shitty wal-mart knife and a honing rod > $800 1095 carbon steel Japanese super knife.
Had to remove that tab behind the edge because it was annoying. Had to chamfer the spine because it was sharp as shit. Then I had to stabilize the shitty handle it came with because it had splits and holes in it from their shitty attempt at stabilizing it.
Even after all that though it’s still a great knife for the price. Just needed a little love.
I’ve actually made a pretty similar gravy (I like it with meat loaf). One thing I’ve done is, rather than thickening with corn starch, try a roux made with beef tallow as the fat.
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