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skybreaker ,
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I want to see some Brandon Sanderson novels made into movies or TV shows. Preferably animated as I don’t think a live action would work.

maegul ,
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Word is that it’s coming. And he’s probably the most well known speculative fiction author without an adaptation.

kambusha ,

Yes! The graphic audiobooks have been awesome.

Pons_Aelius ,

The Culture series by Iain M Banks.

Though I am not sure how you would translate some of them (Excession...) into a visual story.

Encromion ,

They turned the inside the suit moments of Iron Man into pop culture. They could figure it out, I bet!

Lophostemon ,

I honestly think that would ruin it for all the Culture fans. Much as I love Banks’ work, I like the movie of the books that I’ve produced in MY head more than what anyone else could make.

los_chill ,

I’m kinda in this boat too. I’m glad Banks’ estate didn’t let the Amazon series go through. Something about a guy like Bezos hailing the books while being a billionaire capitalist egomaniac just makes me uneasy with the whole idea.

PsychedSy ,

Post-scarcity communism is fine. I’d actually consider the culture just lib, not even left or right. It’s a totally voluntary society. Except maybe for some special circumstances.

Pons_Aelius ,

Post-scarcity communism is fine.

Post scarcity makes labels like communism/capitalism meaningless. They are both systems to deal with the scarcity of resources.

One of the best lines in Bank's work to describe this is from LTW:

"Money is a sign of poverty"

Ie: A society that needs money to apportion scarce resources is always poor as there is never enough to go around.

PsychedSy ,

It certainly has shaped my own ethics and ideas.

Pons_Aelius ,

I understand your point but feel it is a bit selfish.

I honestly think that would ruin it for all the Culture fans.

But it would also create a lot more Culture fans. Just as the LOTR movies got a huge number of people to read Tolkien.

I would love to see more people read Banks.

I like the movie of the books that I’ve produced in MY head more than what anyone else could make.

If they are ever adapted no one is going to force you to watch and you can reread them when ever you want.

CybranM ,

Totally agree with you, many people said the same about Lord of the rings before Peter Jackson made an amazing adaptation. That doesn’t mean every adaptation is good, far from it, but that shouldn’t stop people from trying.

Cheradenine ,

My first thought. Though you could do Use of Weapons, Inversions, and The State of the Art. The Algebraist, Feersum Endjinn, The Player of Games, could all be their own trilogy. Use of Weapons, Look to Windward, Surface Detail etc.

Hackerman_uwu ,

I always thought the drone scenes would be so interesting on film like a mix between bullet time and 10000fps. Also weird storytelling seeing the other scenes pop up in drone time.

Donebrach ,
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The Witcher but they actually follow the source material.

BellaDonna ,

It does exist actually, it’s just Polish media.

Donebrach ,
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Not really, what you’re referencing is like a half-remembered retelling of a few of the stories from The Last Wish and Sword of Destiny.

kratoz29 ,

I have only played The Witcher 3 and its DLCs and watched The Netflix show up until S02, so far I like it (especially the game).

I’m slowly introducing in the books/reading field, and just started with classics like Dracula (so far liking it) are the books of The Witcher stand on their own as a good entry point for my “current phase”?

aubertlone ,

yes

Donebrach ,
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I also had only played the witcher III when I started the books. The games are all set after the events of the witcher saga (books), and are honestly just really really good fan fiction based on the characters (like, really the best fan fiction you could think of), so you can feel free to just read the books.

If you’re not a big reader (if I understand the note about dracula correctly) the witcher audio books are really well done, and the stories lend themselves very well to being listened to.

Finally, I could write a treatise on the failures of the netflix show, but it would all be old news—about 10% of the show is accurate to the stories told in the text (and the text is so much better), the rest is a bunch of made-up nonsense that serves nothing other than to muddy the narrative.

In short, yes, read the books (also why do people need to ask advice about reading books these days. just read books).

kratoz29 ,

Thank you for the explanation! If they are a prequel of The Witcher III then that’ll make it better for me!

(also why do people need to ask advice about reading books these days. just read books).

About this, well, there is a reason why book communities exist right? I am not asking for validation in this matter but definitely like to hear all opinions and personal experience before setting off on this kind of time consuming activity.

Donebrach , (edited )
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I will only say this: reading a book takes no more time than it does to read a bunch of bullshit on the internet. Why would one need to consult with people prior to opening a book and reading 5, 10 or, 500 pages? I would argue that opening a book and reading it first is better than asking for peoples’ opinion and permission prior to reading anything.

To paraphrase Kamina: “Don’t believe in the text, believe in the text that believes in you!”

funkajunk ,
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Redwall.

Do it in full photo realistic CGI; I want to see the beautiful castles and countryside, all the delicious food, and the gruesome battles in all their glory.

Bye ,

Instead of cgi I want it done with traditional cell animation on a huge budget. Like princess Mononoke or spirited away.

funkajunk ,
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There already was a traditionally animated show though…

Piecemakers3Dprints ,
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The Redwall video game is actually a lot of fun, so there’s that at least 🤩

pinkdrunkenelephants ,

That would either be fire or a smoldering pile of shit.

funkajunk ,
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There’s so much source material that I think it could work.

shiveyarbles ,

Or they could hire furries

funkajunk ,
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No thanks

tfw_no_toiletpaper ,

Bit of a normie but the Dark Tower series would be awesome. Mixing tons of genres, having very different locations to film in. It would be extremely expensive to produce.

The gunslinging of Idris Elba in the movie was nice but everything else wasn’t.

TransplantedSconie OP , (edited )

Yeah. That movie was a disappointment. I love Idris Elba in everything he does, but that movie should not have been made lol

Algaroth ,

When I first saw the casting I thought Elba was going to play the man in black and McConaughey was going to be Roland which I thought was great casting but then they flipped it around.

MissJinx ,
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Came here to say this. But tbf It will always be a horrible adaptation for a movie, even the first book, the shortest one, is to much for a movie.

Also I don’t think they would ever adapt Odetta the way she is and she is awesome

ColeSloth ,

Mike Flanagan is making the TV series. It’s been in the works for a year or so and has King’s nod of approval on it. No casting has been solidified yet and stuff is of course currently halted due to the strikes, but it’s currently a high priority project after Hollywood can start up again.

IzzyData ,
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I’d love to see the last 3 books of The Expanse series made into a trilogy of movies.

AmosBurton_ThatGuy ,
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I would prefer at least 10 episode seasons, but I’d take anything at this point. The last 3 books were the best of them all, and that’s with the first 6 being absolutely amazing as well.

Greatest series ever, I will die on that hill.

IzzyData ,
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There are a couple really spectacular scenes that I really want to see visualized. In my head I extrapolated what the last 3 books would look like based on the series visualizations which made them like watching the show. That last scene with Draper though… that would be a sight to behold.

AmosBurton_ThatGuy ,
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!Like a fuckin Valkyrie!< 😭

cheesymoonshadow ,
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This whole thread is making me want to listen to the audiobooks all over again.

AmosBurton_ThatGuy , (edited )
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https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/a59432bd-7968-4a5f-a60e-7231bb53f97c.gifLet the dark side Expanse flow through you

jaicon ,

Hyperion Cantos by Dan Simmons

AxelNanol ,

Came here for this comment, wasn’t disappointed.

GrayBackgroundMusic ,

Maybe? It’s been decades since I read it, but I remember enjoying Hyperion and fucking hating Fall of Hyperion. It felt like Hyperion was amazing and well thought ought but then Fall was just mailed in.

jaicon ,

Because Fall rushed the story with a fuck ton of plotlines. It really should have focused on continuing the story and have a third book conclude the major plotlines. That way a lot of things that happened wouldn’t feel like they were pulled out of left field.

Thisfox ,

Ursula le Guin anyone?

The Left Hand of Darkness might be interesting. The Word for Tree is Forest would likely get thought of as an odd Avatar clone. But The Dispossessed would probably never get made, people would find worth in the politics and abandon the megacorp making it.

Lumun ,
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Le Guin prose is exceptional and would be nearly impossible to bring to screen well. I’m sure it will be tried at some point. Maybe a dark horse, but I actually think The Lathe of Heaven might be the most adaptable. It’s the simplest story and has plenty of room for exciting changes and visuals in a film.

davefischer ,
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And… the 1980 adaption of Lathe of Heaven is fantastic. (There’s also a remake I refuse to acknowledge.)

jmbmkn ,

I just finished The Disposessed and found it critiqued both the capitalist and anarchist society. The people of Annares have simple happiness, but they starve and strive to keep the society alive. It’s also very explicit that it only works because they don’t uphold their anarchist ideals and coerce everyone into work through social pressure.

I think a film would work and would present a “you could have a different society, but it would never be a paradise” type idea.

EmoDuck ,

Her Earthsea book was actually adapted. By Studio Ghibli no less. It was so bad that the dad of the director left the theater halfway through to have a smoke. Said dad was no other than Hayao Miyazaki (Director of Spirited Away, Howl’s Miving Castle, Castle in the Sky, etc)

Marin_Rider ,

The Mars trilogy by KSR. I think 3 8 hour long episode seasons could work

Encromion ,

And we were teased about it on the SciFi channel a bunch of years ago before they instituted cost savings measures.

Starglasses ,

I first read that as three 8-hour long episodes. Like, damn, the books are great but I’m not sitting for that long–oh-- 3 seasons each with 8 hour-long episodes… that makes sense lol

Thisfox ,

Was going to say the same. They would make an amazing series of series.

GrayBackgroundMusic ,

As long as they edit it a bit. IMO, it felt like Robinson was paid by the word and padded the crap out of the novels.

ThaijsClan ,

Pretty much any Brandon Sanderson book series. Mistborn, Steelheart, Way of King’s, Skyward… Etc

dmegatool ,
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*Stormlight Archives

I was gonna say that… Even if I just read Way Of Kings yet. It’s so good. Really liked it.

I’m currently entering “The slump” in Wheel of time. Can’t wait to get to Brandon books.

Sanity_in_Moderation ,

Wot-encyclopedia.com it has excellent chapter summaries for the slog books.

aserraric ,

The Nights Dawn Trilogy by Peter F. Hamilton. Not as a trilogy, though, this would have to be series, maybe three seasons per book.

Ixoid ,
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I came here to say this - Night’s Dawn (or his other massive series the Commonwealth Saga) would make excellent TV. But it would have to be skilfully made, probably animated (like Sonnie’s Edge in Love + Robots), and cover many, many seasons.

CitizenKong ,

Mistborn by Brandan Sanderson.

Xyre ,

If done right, he could probably pull off the entire Cosmere.

K3zi4 ,

Give me animated cosmere over films any day, it’s so expansive and only growing. A well done animated series would be incredible and easy to maintain.

Zaphernious ,

Worm

parahumans.wordpress.com

My attention span makes reading really hard. I read this from start to finish. It’s well worth the read if you’re into stories like it

hASHfunction ,

this would make an incredible adult animated series. I think doing skitter’s bugs would be difficult as a live action

fratermus ,
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Murderbot, but I don’t think it could make the transition to film.

Meltrax ,

I thought that while reading it, so good but first person narrations can never really get adapted well.

MrFunnyMoustache ,

It isn’t that they can never get adapted well, it’s just much harder to do. I think Fate/Stay Night has examples of terrible and great adaptations. Studio Deen’s adaptation of the Fate route was awful, their adaptation of Unlimited Blade Works was even worse. Ufotable’s adaptation of Unlimited Blade Works was pretty good, and their adaptation of Heaven’s Feel was great.

Mushoku Tensei was adapted amazingly, and while many details were left out, the adaptation is a masterclass of how to do it well.

If we’re talking about ordinary books, Andy Weir’s The Martian had a pretty good adaptation, and I am expecting Project Hail Mary to be good as well.

theskyisfalling ,

None.

I don’t see what making a film or TV series adds to any book, all they ever seem to do is a disservice to the original story in the attempt to squeeze as much money from it as possible.

I’d rather more fully voice acted audiobooks were made staying more true to the original texts but adding that extra element to draw you in than just one narrator trying to differentiate characters with different voices.

TransplantedSconie OP ,

I see your point. But if done right, the movie/show can be almost as good as the books (Fellowship of the Ring and One Piece). It just takes someone who loves the material being used or (in the case of One Piece) the creator watching over every step.

theskyisfalling ,

Maybe so but they are so few and far between, for me personally I can’t think of an adaptation that I have really liked. I don’t like The Lord of the Rings films that much but I actually dislike the books more in that case but I realise that I am an outlier with that opinion.

people_are_cute ,
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Yep. I wanted to mention Brandon Sanderson’s Mistborn series but it already has a stellar GraphicAudio adaptation.

theskyisfalling ,

Yup, I love Graphic Audio and am currently listening to Stormlight Archives by Sanderson produced by them. It is great!

CannedTuna ,

I love Sanderson novels and especially the Stormlight Archives. I know if Amazon or someone picked it up, they’d absolutely ruin it. Probably the only way we’d see a faithful adaptation would be in animated form.

GrayBackgroundMusic ,

I don’t see what making a film or TV series adds to any book, all they ever seem to do is a disservice to the original story in the attempt to squeeze as much money from it as possible.

It’s that last part that effs it up. For example, I really liked Luhrman’s Romeo+Juliet. That was a creative interpretation. I enjoyed Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy. I thought the books were decent, but the movie captured the best bits, IMO. Early seasons of Game of Thrones were good. I like some of the changes made to move the internal dialog to conversations. It gave the side characters more life.

It’s when the artistic vision is cast aside in the name of profit, then the work of art suffers.

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