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Atelopus-zeteki ,
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Tile or concrete floors, hard surface walls, glass windows all reflect sound. As people start talking, if they are drinking they get louder, so then each table is trying to talk over the tables around them. Without acoustic damping, it can get pretty loud.

Drusas ,

That's a big part of it, but some people are just loud and some restaurants just play their music way too loud all the time.

Dicska ,

Some bosses want to make sure you can hear the music at a decent volume at the back tables. Meanwhile the front tables:

vk6flab ,
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It’s to encourage you to eat faster and leave, so your table is available for the next victim.

gdog05 ,

This is it. It’s why seats/stools look nice but feel uncomfortable after 20 or so minutes.

tuckerm ,

I remember seeing this on the news a few years ago. If I remember right, they were interviewing a design firm that does interior design for fast food and fast casual restaurants, and they were talking about all of this. I was really surprised at how candid they were being, since you would think that they would want this to be an industry secret.

The high stools with no back, the music that is too loud, the lights that are a little too bright and kind of hanging down in your field of view: all intentional, so that you're just ever so slightly uncomfortable and you leave a few minutes sooner.

Lyre ,
  1. Create environment actively hostile to remain in for long periods of time
  2. Expect people to work and be productive in said environment for hours on end
stardust ,

Explains why I don’t like eating out and never cared for paying for stuff like the ambiance even at fancy restaurants and prefer take out.

Nikls94 ,

Take out sadly still covers the ambiance

Sir_Kevin ,
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Don’t they realize that once people leave such a place, they’re never coming back? There are only so many locals in a given area. Unless the place is a tourist trap this seems like a shitty idea for long term business.

Habahnow ,

If the food is amazing, then people will come back. The point is to make the location slightly uncomfortable enough that people want to leave sooner, not that they hate the place. The idea is you need to balance cost of food, and customer turn around time. If you make it very expensive, people won’t feel comfortable taking the food to go, even if it is an amazing item. On the flip side, a cheap menu that is very comfortable will be overly cost prohibitive.

Drusas ,

As a person with digestive problems that lead to hemorrhoids, this one in particular feels like a big fuck you.

schnurrito ,

Because you choose to keep going to restaurants where they play loud music. No idea why you’re doing that

menemen ,
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In some crowded places they do it, so it doesn’t feel like a central station.

Timely_Jellyfish_2077 ,

In India, restaurants generally play smooth music at near audible levels.

xilliah ,

I once read that it’s an epigenetic thing and it can be found across the animal kingdom. Some animals are born more sensitive and others less and this is important for the species or social group as a whole. This actually happens on a neuron level.

The less sensitive kind needs to actively search out stimulation, whereas you can leave the more sensitive one alone with a flower and they’ll be a happy camper.

And there’s so much more to it, for example developmental. Have you ever noticed the difference in sound levels in people’s homes? In some places it’s just like a warzone. TV on max, dogs barking, kids screaming. Imagine growing up with that. Like a fish in water.

And then there’s all the processing disorders…

You can train yourself though if you value it. I enjoy encounters and it bothered me a lot, so I just kept going to busy cafés and bars until my brain finally got the memo. It keeps surprising me how my hearing has become like a sort of precision microphone.

lemmyknow ,

Switched on Pop: Gastropod: Why are restaurants so loud? Plus the science behind the perfect playlist

Episode webpage: www.switchedonpop.com

Media file: www.podtrac.com/pts/…/VMP8607546877.mp3?updated=1…

numberfour002 ,

It doesn’t seem to be a super common, general thing where I live. However, there are some more prone to it than others, like places that have a bar and/or otherwise serve alcohol. Typically though it’s only the nights they do live music and that’s most often weekends and around specific holidays.

Mostly I just avoid pretty much any establishment if they’ve got live entertainment for the night and I’m there to eat as well as talk with others. I avoid any that are particularly egregious in terms of loud music. I have been with a group where we asked if the volume could be turned down on the speakers one night at a live event where we were one of only a few tables in the entire place and it was clear that nobody was particularly interested in damaging their hearing. The manager slowly slinked over to the performers about 5 - 10 minutes after the request, and they stopped playing shortly after.

The_Che_Banana ,

Most respectable places have music that is loud at the beginning of service when there are few diners, but then the music gets lower as time goes on and the place fills up.

…not that I reread this, I’m really not implying you dont go to reputable places…really

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